Ayurvedic Tips for How to Boost Energy and Immunity with Vaidya Jay [Episode #839]
This week’s topic is: Ayurvedic Tips for How to Boost Energy and Immunity with Vaidya Jay
I am so excited to have my very special guest, Vaidya Jay, who is a world-renowned speaker, professor of Ayurvedic medicine and a NAMA registered practitioner. Listen in as Vaidya Jay shares what an Ayurvedic lifestyle looks like, the medicinal qualities of spices and the most important ones to add to your routine, practices to keep your immunity high, and so much more!
What an Ayurveda lifestyle looks like…
Medicinal qualities of spices and the most important ones to add to your routine…
The connection to sleep with nutmeg…
Practices to keep your immunity high…
Ways to promote healthy hair and skin…
Allowing your body to guide you naturally…
About Vaidya Jay
Vaidya Jayagopal Parla (Jay) is a world-renowned speaker. professor of Ayurvedic medicine and a NAMA registered practitioner. Jay has more than 23 years of experience in Ayurvedic practice and teaching. Jayagopal Parla (Jay) holds a Masters in Ayurvedic Medicine from Rajiv Gandhi University of Health Sciences. Bangalore. India. He also holds a Masters in Acupuncture and Oriental Medicine from Southern California University of Health Sciences and is a certified Yoga teacher.
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Kimberly: 00:00 Namaste loves and welcome back to our Monday interview show where I’m so excited to have Vaidya Jay back on our show. Vaidya means Dr. And Sanskrit Va. Jay is my personal Ayurvedic teacher and physician who I’ve been working with for many years and he is full of wisdom and has an amazing energy. If you happen to read my last book, you are more than You Think you are. You might recall that I featured VA Jay in the vitality section where I talked about his incredible energy and being such an embodiment of what he teaches, and he has been practicing and teaching Ayurvedic medicine for more than 23 years. He studied Ayurvedic medicine in Bangalore, India, and he’s been here, I believe for over 15 or 16 years now, and I’ve known Dr. Jay now or Vaidya Jay for almost 10 years. So I’m very excited to get into our show today.
01:07 We talk about this very important time of the year in terms of energy and immunity and the best spices and the best practices that we can do to keep ourselves as healthy and energized as possible. Before we get into the show further, a little reminder that over on our website, my sauna.com, which is mny, S-O-L-L-U-N a.com. You can submit questions for our upcoming Thursday q and a shows. You can check out our amazing products and our articles, meditations. We’re in the middle of this exciting holiday time, so there’s many deals you can check out. It’s a great time of year to stock up on your digestive enzymes and your probiotics and your detoxy and so on. And of course we have hundreds and hundreds of free plant-based recipes for you to check out. So it’s all over there on our website and please join our mailing list if you haven’t yet to get our newsletter and all our exciting updates. Alright, all that being said, let’s get right into our show today with the amazing Vaidya Jay.
Interview with Vaidya Jay
Kimberly: 01:22 Jay. It was great to have you back. It’s been a little while, so thank you so much for coming back on the show today.
Vaidya Jay: 01:40 Thank you Kimberly for having me. Nama, everybody wishing you a wonderful Diwali and this new year we wish you healthy and happy New Year.
Kimberly: 01:53 Well, we’re a little away from that. Dr. Jay. I Judge Jay. I love it. We’re preparing already, but let’s pause for a minute and talk about Ali, which was this year for me in particular because there’s so much going on in the world and it seems like there’s a lot of darkness happening in general. It’s a wonderful time to reflect on the light within all of us and the light that is always there and the triumph of the light. And I love the story of the first Ali, which was when Rama came out of the forest, I believe with Sita and Hannu man. And there was this celebration. So here we are. It’s hard for me not to call you Dr. Jay because I originally know you, but here we are in this interesting time, which is going into the darkest day of the year. We’re right in the middle or right before the holidays. There’s a lot happening in our body and yet the light is always there, right? Dr. J both from a health perspective, from a spiritual perspective, this guiding light, this energy inside all of us is something that we can always call on.
Embracing the light and what that means
Vaidya Jay: 03:07 So first thing that we embrace is the light. So we believe in light, we don’t believe in dark. That’s the first message. So believing in light is to move towards one’s consciousness, one’s inner spirit, which is always a resend of light. So this is a symbolic representation in a way. Dark comes in when we become self-centered. Egoistic. You’re told about the story of Rama, right? Yeah. So in this story of Rama, the demon is rama. He has 10 heads, Kimberly, just not one 10 heads. The 10 heads represents 10 ways that our mind can be distracted, 10 ways that we can get ourselves enrolled into darkness, where we find complete ignorance surrounding us and unable to even find our ways. A lot of us a are going through that on a daily basis and we try as much as we try coming towards the light, the dark seems to be more powerful. So this is a reminder that we need to celebrate light.
Kimberly: 04:32 Beautiful. Dr. Invited Jay. And this time in particular we’ll get into what a lot of people are asking about and wondering about this time of year in particular having more energy and keeping their digestion in check and having better immunity as those of us that are in the northern hemisphere are moving towards the darker less sun and colder months. And I always like to cover it by JJ from our four cornerstone perspective, as we’ve done in the past in our conversations, which here at Sauna are food, body, emotional wellbeing and spiritual growth. And of course Ayurvedic medicine very much also celebrates the whole being, which is one of the reasons that I’m so drawn to Ayurveda as well and acknowledging that we’re not just this physical being, but there’s a mix of energies, these formless parts of us. So here we are, as I mentioned va Jay, we’ve got Thanksgiving and the holidays.
05:34 You mentioned New Year’s, which is just around the corner. But this is a time of year where people are grasping, I think to feel good. There’s a lot of sugary treats, there’s a lot of get togethers. People may be drinking more alcohol than usual, there’s stress, there’s trying to finish work before the end of the year. There’s the stress of being around relatives that perhaps we wouldn’t usually choose to be around. So one of the things that you’ve always talked to me about, and I remember I had a class with you on was this aspect of Dina Chaia about trying to maintain a sense of routine. What are some of your practical tips, let’s say from any of these aspects, food or within your body, Dr. J as we are in this time where there’s a lot of get togethers and occasions and things may feel more out of whack.
Differentiating between celebration and indulgence
Vaidya Jay: 06:33 So one of the things that happens, Kimberly, is people do not differentiate between celebration and indulgence.
06:44 So whenever we think about celebration, we are always thinking about overdoing things. Just a few weeks ago was Halloween and Halloween is celebration, but how much of that has been converted into somewhat like Xs of abundance, Xs of like candies. But these young minds, the kids are just developing, they relate celebration to abuse of these excessive tastes that are so we are at times when we are starting very young in younger minds, that celebration is not to celebrate yourself but celebrate with census, you exes. So that’s where the difference has to start. And even in this holiday season when we go through this, it is a reminder for us that whatever we could accomplish during the year is to be celebrated, not to be hindered by excess. So Xs in the sense we are always sensory saturation to beyond our comprehension. We do so much of sensory abuse.
08:09 So a festivity or holidays should minimize that sensory access. So it should be like where do I stand in this time where the celebration is starting? How do I celebrate myself to honor my body, to honor my mind? And that’s where the D Sharia comes in, right? Dria is a everyday weather method of honoring yourself. Dina Sharia, as all our audience know, it’s a daily routine that has been practiced for thousands of years. And it is to honor the body, honor the senses, honor the digestive system, and evolve from physical wellbeing to mental calmness and purity. And finally getting to know what our real being is real presence is. We are that pure consciousness is what is a reminder at the end of the year during these celebrations as we go towards the cold and the dark.
Kimberly: 09:20 So when we talk about this daily routine by jj, what I love about it is that there’s all these different components and of course everyone can individualize it. In the Ayurvedic practices, there’s the oral care, there’s looking in the mirror, there’s the meditation, there’s so many different aspects and some of them are quite physical. I mean it’s all of it. It’s how we eat. But as you mentioned, all that we’re doing is helping to put us in touch with this pure consciousness with what Yogananda would say is the True Self. So the end goal is not to have the perfect body per se or to look the best, although these are happy byproducts, but really all that we’re doing is really to increase our self-realization, our inner happiness, our peace. And so the lifestyle of Ayurveda, as you mentioned, and having these rhythms and routines, which is something I talk about so much as well, really does result in how we feel in ourselves on a day-to-day basis.
We discuss the lifestyle of Ayurveda and how we feel on a day-to-day basis
Vaidya Jay: 10:26 Absolutely true. The word that you use Kimberly is the byproduct. The body health and longevity is the byproduct of our conscious evolution. And then that’s how the human body is designed. And I say this all the time, that we are designed to leave 100 years. And in this 100 years we have the potential to get to a place where we realize we are not just the dying mirror, the body that is dying with the physical elements that it has or it’s not the mind that has accumulated all these emotions and thoughts. We are beyond this. That is the amount of learning it takes a hundred years of learning it takes, and these byproducts of this learning, the body and the mind support us to go through this journey. I like that word, which you said byproduct. We don’t realize that we think body is the most important thing or the mind is the most important thing. That’s where we are sidetracked.
Kimberly: 11:31 That’s right. And to know that we have a body, we have a mind, but we are the soul, we are the formless, we are this energy inside of us. And so that’s primary and that can feel really esoteric. For some people it can feel like, wow, that’s a big concept in a hundred years, and what are we going to do? So let’s break it down into something really accessible. Starting with this season, as I mentioned, we’re still going to have Thanksgiving meals and get togethers and things like that. But on a regular daily basis, let’s start with something really tangible. What are some of the best spices that we can start to incorporate right now? Ones we can focus on, because something I really appreciated about the Ayurvedic nutrition classes that I took with you, which I still utilize to this day, they’ve had such a big impact on my life, on my cooking, on my family life, is these one pot meals. These simple ways of preparing very fresh, not making so much that there’s tons and tons of leftovers, but just making it simple so it’s easy to cook and fresh and also utilizing the correct spices. So can you talk a little bit about the medicinal qualities of spices and the most important ones to use right now?
Medicinal qualities of spices and the most important ones to add to your routine
Vaidya Jay: 12:53 So winter, as we all know, is a colder where we have more need to keep ourselves warm. So the way that the eye with looks at is our metabolism naturally goes up, Kimberly, because without that inner fire, inner metabolism being increased or hyped up a little bit, our body is going to suffer from hypothermia. So ideally this time of the year is a time when we really nurture our metabolism for that matter, the entire gut. So we are allowed to eat something more dense, nutritionally heavy, but at the same time we want to make sure that everything is broken down into the nutrients that is absorbable and assimilable into the body. So first I want to talk about black pepper or the black gold that I really love to introduce because I think I’ve forgotten that black pepper was at times black pepper was even more prier than gold because people knew so much about the benefits of the black pepper that they would price it so high.
14:20 One thing that black pepper can do is to harvest the life force, which we call as prana. Like in Chinese medicine we call it chi, right? So this prana is coming from two sources on a daily basis regularly for us. One from the food that we eat second from the breath that we take. So the breath prana comes in, the food prana comes in the meat in the heart, and then it gets distributed to all parts of the body. So that’s how we keep ourselves white. So black pepper is one spice that brings and harvest the best prana from the breath and the best prana from the food. Both of them get liberated and then that causes a lot of warmth. And also the sensation of being free sensation of being. So the black pepper’s uniqueness is that it is a spice that is so overlooked that its benefits have been completely ignored. We get this black pepper, if I go and order some soup from a restaurant, they’ll give you a small bag of salt and pepper. I don’t know that pepper has been sitting for maybe two years. That’s not the pepper. I’m talking about a freshly grinded pepper on the dish that you’re preparing. Simple, you said lentil soup, crack that black pepper on it and then take it. That will really bring in the metabolism to the optimal level that we’re looking at. Most of them don’t know that black pepper is a powerful antiparasitic substance. It has pepper in which is great for preventing overgrowth the bacteria inside the gut. So that’s a big advantage of using black pepper. So by king herb for winter season is black pepper.
Kimberly: 16:26 Wow. And so what you mean vi JJ is getting an actual grinder and so we want to grind it right before we eat it to get those benefits. So the oil doesn’t get rancid, it’s not sitting around. Right. Okay.
Vaidya Jay: 16:41 So the rancid is what they’re are studies to show that the rancid oil that’s present in the black pepper can be a gastric irritant and a cosmo. So you don’t want to take a pepper that’s sitting for long time powdered and then use it. It’s not a good spice to use when it achieves long time preservation.
Kimberly: 17:02 Well, what’s great about that is that freshly cracked black pepper is used in any, we can put it on these type of food or cuisine. It doesn’t have to be specific to one particular type, whether we’re eating Mexican food or Indian food or just a simple dish, we can always add that on top. Whereas some of the other spices like cumin, which I personally love, but it’s pretty flavor dominant, right? It’s going to make your dish taste a certain way. We’re going in a certain direction. So I like that you start black peppers, something that’s accessible to everybody,
Vaidya Jay: 17:40 Love it. And the second spice in this season, Kimberly will be cinnamon.
17:47 Yeah, because cinnamon has the special ability to warm up the skin. So there are a lot of people who feel their skin becomes very lu less and lifeless when it comes to cold winter season. So the cinnamon has the ability to open the micro blood circulation. So it’s something that brings the warm, that’s why in winter so many recipes have cinnamon in them. So cinnamon not only is flavorful, but it also has the cinnamic acid that is present that gives the aroma and then the tingling sensation when you take it in your like a dish or in a spice tea or something like that. That’s because that tingly sensation is what is doing it to entire body to open up these micro capillaries to give us the warmth that we are looking for.
Kimberly: 18:55 And of course by jj, this is a whole other topic because you were part of our fertility pregnancy postpartum course, this course says, which are launching in just a few months. Very excited if you’re pregnant. I’ve also heard you don’t necessarily want to eat a lot of cinnamon or certain spikes for these very special times for probably the reasons you just mentioned because there’s this opening quality, it might be overstimulating perhaps.
Vaidya Jay: 19:22 Absolutely, absolutely. Very good point. People who are only in pregnancy should not take large quantities of spices that have, what do you call as bioo dilation. That means they have the tendency to open the blood vessels to dilate them. So turmeric is one among them, cinnamon is another one. So these spices need to be used with proper care and supervision.
Kimberly: 19:48 And then before we move on, vi Jay, so we cover everything. Are there a few others you just want to list? That would be great this season, maybe your second tier year.
Vaidya Jay: 20:00 Second tier will be nutmeg, which we talked about many a times. Kimberly never. Yeah. So the sleep is a very important aspect in this winter season. Winter season is the time when the body hibernates in its own way and then it gets rejuvenated. So longevity depends on winters. So in Sanskrit we say ham. So look at a hundred winters, a hundred winter moons is the wish that comes from that coldness, that preserves the body’s vitality. And nutmeg is one among them, which is very important because it puts the person to that lumber, which is very much required to sleep. And the slumber is important for rejuvenation. So nutmeg for me is the second tier herb that works with the mind as well as for the body.
Kimberly: 21:00 Wait, so vi jj, what was the connection to sleep with a nutmeg? If you have it in elixir in the evening and drinks, it helps promote good sleep. Is that what you said?
The connection to sleep with nutmeg
Vaidya Jay: 21:09 Exactly, exactly. The smell of nutmeg is very mind calming. And nutmeg is also gut calming. In Chinese medicine, nutmeg is used for diarrhea because it calms down the hyperactivity in the gut. So the gut-brain connection that we are talking about in the winter season, that metabolism is up, the gut is very active. This is a way to calm down in the evening so that you can have a good night restful sleep that will ate the body.
Kimberly: 21:40 And vaj, because it’s so dark out, I find myself already starting to go to bed earlier naturally. And do you think that’s the way nature intended, as you mentioned the sort of hibernation in the winter. Does Ayurveda say we’re meant to actually sleep more hours in the winter?
Vaidya Jay: 21:58 Yes, true. It is. Winter is the time when especially children and elderly should have an hour, hour and a half of extra sleep because they need more sleep because either they’re growing, the children are growing, they need more sleep to get quality tissues in them. And then elderly, the tissues are prone to faster breaking down. So this winter helps them to preserve. That’s what Avida says.
Kimberly: 22:30 Wow. And I know just to move around a little bit, Vijay, because it’s also beautifully interconnected, and when we’re talking about sleep, we’re talking about nutmeg. What are some of the other practices? Because we’re meant to sleep more, to help promote better sleep. I know obviously not eating too late and some people struggle with eating really spicy food too late at night because it keeps them up. What are some of the practices that you would recommend, especially now when we’re wanting to stay healthy and energized, really keep our immunity high.
Practices to keep your immunity high
Vaidya Jay: 23:07 So we talked about first conversation that you had was about Diwali or the Festival of Rights. So in India, every person, rich or poor, on the day of Diwali, they have to apply oil on the body, massage themselves and take a hard bath or a shower, mostly shower. So that is the first step. They say in the winter, the nervous system, it gets more active on the periphery, in the periphery, in the sense the peripheral nervous system, which is ending in our skin. I mean millions and trillions of nerve endings are found on our skin. So the way to start the winter is to calm down this peripheral nervous system because cord of course will make our skin to become more intrigue or activated. So a good way to get a quality sleep is to make sure that we have this nervous system calmed down. So there is a simple and effective way of calming down this peripheral nervous system is to apply a sesame oil, not coconut oil, because coconut oil is more a summer oil, sesame oil, or you can do almond oil on the body rub and then leave it on for a couple of minutes and then take a shower after, or take a bath after will be the first step to get quality sleep because it just so effectively calms down the nervous system.
Kimberly: 24:50 The aga, you’re speaking to vi jj, I’d been so regular for so long because of your great promotion of it, and I admit I’ve gotten a little bit away from it, but I have some of your amazing oils, your atray oils, and now that winter is coming, it sounds like a really important practice to make time for. We even have some instructions on our site and it doesn’t have to be this super long process. It can be a few minutes.
Vaidya Jay: 25:22 Exactly. I tell this my oil massage is my cardio Kimberly. I rub myself so briskly that I’m just gasping for air. That eight minutes is really my cardia.
Kimberly: 25:38 Eight minutes, you’re rubbing the oils on. Yeah, that’s a long time.
Vaidya Jay: 25:44 But I also don’t need to be in a gym working out on a machine, which I would take the time to reach there and get onto electrical, do that. But this is so easy and I rub my shoulders first and it’s a rhythm. I have a flow of how I do it. My entire body becomes warm, I feel I’m about to break into a sweat, and then I just jump into my shower and take a bath and shower. And then I don’t use necessarily soap on my body, I’m just rubbing and scrubbing out what extra oil is. Of course, in sweating parts I use soap. But that is what protects the skin. And I think Kimberly, we’ll be grateful that we learned this technique down the line when we both are 90 years old, we’ll be like, what happened to our skin? Our skins are gorgeous.
Kimberly: 26:39 Wait, so hold on a second here. My jj, what you’re describing, I have to admit sounds a little bit like the masculine version of aga, this briskness when I’m doing it feminine, just kind of these long strokes feels nice. I am not doing it briskly at all. Should I be doing it more briskly for winter? Because mine feels soothing, right? I’m like, oh, divine feminine energy.
Vaidya Jay: 27:06 You said it exactly right. In winter you want to be brisk. Interesting. And then in summer you want to be melon.
Kimberly: 27:14 Okay?
Vaidya Jay: 27:15 Because what is your mind doing in the winter? The mind wants to be depressed, mind wants to be down, mind wants to be not inactive. That inertia creeps in, right? So you want to briss it up in summer, it’s already activated. You want to calm it down. You said it so perfectly that this action of versus meline in winter and summer,
Kimberly: 27:42 How you described doing your avianca. I was sitting here saying, that is not how I do mine at all. Mine is soothing, but I will step it up. I’ll make it more brisk for winter time. Thank you. I’m glad we talked about this.
Vaidya Jay: 27:57 Yeah, yeah.
Kimberly: 27:59 Another thing while we’re kind of moving around here organically, Vijay, is it’s a time where a lot of people feel dryness, right? We talk about that Vata kicking up. So people start getting really dry hair and the abian I think helps with skin. But some people even fit their hair thins or they lose their hair. I believe at one point you told me about oiling the bottoms of your feet, we talked about scalp massage. What are other things we can do to promote healthier hair, less dry, better growth, especially in this season?
Ways to promote healthy hair and skin
Vaidya Jay: 28:35 So sesame seeds, we cannot forget ingesting sesame seeds in one form or another. Yes, the external oil application undoubtedly is the way to reach the hairs and then the skin. But internally, sesame and awe is praised as the one which brings in nail and hair, normal growth and then strength. So we can ask our audience to say, okay, every day I want to eat a teaspoon of sesame seeds. Even tahini may be a good idea during this time of the year to be taken twice or twice a week. So that’ll be something that we can recommend. The second important thing for improving the hair is fenugreek. So not many people take fenugreek. I suggest that they soak fig Greek in water, grind it and use it as a scalp mask. Very much beneficial. It brings in that really good conditioning in a natural way, a conditioning that is unparallel to whatever cosmetic product that we are using. So you just have to soak it in water, make it into a paste, apply it on the scalp once a week. You don’t have to do it every day once a week. Wow. Right. Third thing is mung beam, believe it or not, and I with a mung bean is considered to be something that’s beneficial for the hair. So these three things is what I would recommend during this season to improve hair quality and promote hair growth.
Kimberly: 30:28 You say mung bean sprouts? Is that what you mean?
Vaidya Jay: 30:31 Sprout? Mung bean is fine. Mung bean. Even I use flour of mung bean right now for making patties. You can make very nice patties if you are using mung bean. And I use just parsley and a little bit of cilantro and then some green onions or spring onions. I cut them all. I mix them and then put some spices too. I put turmeric into it and then it becomes my patty. I make them into rounds. And then those are really good in the season. They’re very handy. You can make them and then keep them and then heat them up as you need them.
Kimberly: 31:14 Wonderful. And it’s making me hungry. YJJ, I’ve had your patties before and we’ve made feast together. Remember for my first son, Emerson, we had a very beautiful special,
Kimberly: 31:30 And your son Krishna was reciting all these incredible chants. I think he was six or seven at the time, which is funny because Emerson’s seven now and I Wow. The amount of spirit he was, I mean, Krishna must be what, 12, 13, 16.
Vaidya Jay: 31:46 Now taller than me. Oh
Kimberly: 31:48 My God.
Vaidya Jay: 31:50 Taller. He’s a boy, man.
Kimberly: 31:53 He’s a boy, man. Oh my gosh. Well, speaking of food, thinking about those patties, this is a wonderful season for the soups, the kitchery, the stews, the rice, all this beautiful hot, a little bit liquidy. This is the season, isn’t it? Baja. So hard not to call
Vaidya Jay: 32:12 You Dr. J, all those, huh?
Kimberly: 32:15 I keep having to tell myself not to call you Dr. J. And for everyone listening, Baja means Dr in Sanskrit. So it’s a term of respect. I’m just retraining myself.
Vaidya Jay: 32:26 Bye. Thank you. Thank you, Kimberly. Thank you. Yeah. So you said those choices that you had, we call them a soic diet. In algorithm food has not only benefits, but also mental, emotional benefits too. So you chose mung bee and you chose rice, you chose warmth and soupy. Those are all considered as sat diet, which keeps the mind in a very peaceful and serene state. So those foods are the greatest for rejuvenation and also for keeping the mind focused and clear.
Kimberly: 33:07 And sometimes I feel like still having the raw fruit, I still have the green smoothies, but I have way less raw food this season. I think that’s a pretty natural, the body gives the guidance. We want a lot more warmth this season.
Allowing your body to guide you naturally
Vaidya Jay: 33:26 Right, right. See, the fruits are okay. If they’re seasonal, that’s fine. Most of the time we can preserve the fruits in different forms, either as natural jellies or marmalades or something like that. We can do and preserve them. But winter is a time when most of the fruits and vegetation disappears. So it gives us the room to use grains and lentils and squashes that have been naturally preserved. And those seem to be the trick for longevity. We have to remind our audience that super food is not longevity. Simple food is longevity.
Kimberly: 34:08 Yes, yes. And definitely seasonal. And where we live here by dj, we’ve got, I’m picking the apples and the pomegranate. So we’re mostly picking from our garden. And what is growing now are those very blood building foods, like a lot of the reds, mins. And it feels very good in my body, I have to say. Yeah.
Vaidya Jay: 34:31 Because nature knows what is best for us. And you in my garden too, we have Siemens. I was just recently harvesting Siemens. Now guavas are coming. So this is a great season to use those fruits. And until maybe December. And after that we are left with again the season of citrus, the season of citrus thoughts like the oranges and the clementines and the qu cards. So these are the next season. So you said correctly, the fruits need to be seasoned. We can’t eat, we cannot import papaya and then eat now mangoes. Now the body doesn’t know how to break it down.
Kimberly: 35:14 And also back to the dinacharya, the routine. We’ve been talking about freshness. We’ve been talking about these foods. And one thing I want to emphasize, and I’ve really learned that, and also from all our classes that we took by JJ, is that eating healthy, simple, it’s easy. Some people get really stuck on, oh, I don’t have time to cook. Or they’re trolling the internet endlessly looking for new recipes. And the way that I cooked with you was so delicious and it was not super time consuming. I mean, certain grains and lentils and things take time to cook, but it’s really about the spices, the vegetables, the herbs, using the right oils, combining it. But it’s not complex. It’s not, oh, I can’t do this.
Vaidya Jay: 36:03 Yeah, it doesn’t have to be, the mind wants to make it more complex because mind thinks it needs everything, but body doesn’t. Body is very simple. Body wants something that’s very malleable and soft and quick and nourishing. So that’s what I was just listening to. One of the documentaries, you might have heard of this, Dan Buettner, who has done so many great. Yes.
Kimberly: 36:30 He’s been on here many times. Va Deja, he’s a dear friend of mine and he
Vaidya Jay: 36:36 Amazing. What a great soul that he has brought
Kimberly: 36:39 Pioneer. Yes. Pioneer of or huge promoter of simple. His recipes are pretty simple. And all his Blue Zones books.
Vaidya Jay: 36:48 Yes. So there was this koya diet that has only three things. It calls them as three sisters. I found that So humbling, squash, black beans and corn. Those people, I saw people who are working in the fields at the age of 90 and so strong chopping their own wood. They’re not eating protein rich food, which is like what we get into buffalo burgers or something like that, where crazy people eat. So they’re eating simple food and then they’re really living their life. So that’s what Dan was saying. It’s not the super food, but it is the accessible food, which is right there in the environment that you live in, which I either says the same thing. What you get in your environment.
Kimberly: 37:41 Well, I think it comes full circle to how we started our conversation when you said VA djj, when we’re living this life, one of the things that we want to do is limit overindulgence in the senses. And that’s in eating all out all the time. Lots of oils and salt and sugar and all of this. It does take a period of retraining. I’ve done it with many, many clients and people myself. But when we come back to simple and the body and the taste start to calm down, you do feel happier. You do feel more satisfied. You do have a much more intuitive sense of how big the portion sizes could be. And you’re living example of that too. Vi did Jay just joyful bouncing around. I wrote about you in my last book. You are more than you Think you are. I forget. Oh, this section on vitality. Did you ever see that?
Vaidya Jay: 38:36 I did. Did you send me a Yeah. Copy of it. Thank you for that’re welcome. It’s welcome. A great book. Great book.
Kimberly: 38:41 Yeah. Thank you so much. Very yoga. But we talk about living, right? And it goes full circle to what we said, that simple routines, these are some of the things you talked about, oiling the skin, getting great sleep. This is the season where we can actually create more space to do that because it’s darker outside. I mean, in a sense, if we say yes to only what we want to say yes to, we say no to excessive activity, which I think is also really important mentally and for our wellbeing.
Vaidya Jay: 39:16 So the point, again, we go back to that Diwali, as I said, there’s a 10 headed demon, right?
Kimberly: 39:22 Yes.
Vaidya Jay: 39:24 Ravenna. Correct. These are the 10 sense, like five sensory organs and five motor organs, 10 heads, the 10 ways of getting distracted, 10 ways of getting ignorant, and then falling into loops of mundane things. Where our spiritual growth stops is the real demon, right? 10 headed demon. Yes. And then rock is the simplest being. And then when you take simplicity, the complexity completely dies. The complexity is anti-Human complexity is anti life.
Kimberly: 40:07 Wow. And then our natural state can come forth, which is this lightness back to Diwali. The light is our true nature. So it’s true, the light, the lightness, the lightness of being, the joy, the bliss, the peace.
Vaidya Jay: 40:23 Yeah. Which we all long for. And then you inspired hundreds and thousands of people with this information. Thank you Kimberly for doing that.
Kimberly: 40:32 Oh, thank you so much Vaj Jay, for being such a guiding light for so many of us. And I absolutely love all your teachings. I think about them all the time. It’s been a couple years since I’ve been your student, but I’m eternally your student vi jj. And you also have your amazing company, Reya Herbs. So can you share with us a little bit about where we can find out more information about you, your work and your amazing, so such high quality, beautiful herbs and formulas, and they’re in capsule form and they’re in powdered form. Tell us please by JJ share
Vaidya Jay: 41:11 With us. Our first message is to all our listeners, don’t buy anything until it’s absolutely necessary. So my first and foremost thing is the herbs are real beings for me. They exist as real beings. We need to respect them and honor them. So we harvest herbs from the places where nature preserves their active principles and provides them the best conditions to grow. So atria is all about gathering them from places where they’re naturally abundant and then bringing them. And we never look at extracting. We look at whole herb like turmeric versus curcumin. So we believe in turmeric rather than in curcumin. So atria is all herbs are a hundred percent as they’re in the nature collected and processed for human consumption. That’s the basic way that I would define atria as quality of herbs. I stand behind all the products because we quality control both in terms of safety and integrity of the product is really high. So we have ashwagandha, we have turmeric. Our audience can explore our website. Our website is re herbs.com.
Kimberly: 42:40 Amazing. Thank you so much Jja. And we’ll be sure to link to that to directly in the show notes. As always, just so much wisdom. Thank you for being such a generous source and teaching us all. We appreciate you so much, VA, Jay, so much. Thank
Vaidya Jay: 42:56 You. Thank you, thank you. Thank you to you, Kimberly.
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