Hawaiian Island Wisdom for the World with Kainoa Daines [Episode #807]

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This week’s topic is: Hawaiian Island Wisdom for the World with Kainoa Daines

I am so excited to have my very special guest, Kainoa Daines, who is currently the Senior Director of Brand for the Hawai‘i Visitors & Convention Bureau. Listen in as Kainoa shares his thoughts on cultural misappropriation regarding Hawaiian ideas, the concept of oral storytelling and how to have deep reverence towards community and connection.

Cultural misappropriation regarding Hawaiian ideas…
Remoteness of Hawaii and how this informed some of the cultural ideas, traditions, wisdom practices, and connection to the land…
The concept of oral storytelling…
Deep reverence to community and connection…

About Kainoa Daines

Kainoa is currently the Senior Director of Brand for the Hawai‘i Visitors & Convention Bureau. In this role, Kainoa oversees and integrates all Hawaiian cultural aspects within the Visitors Bureau, as well as for HVCB Members across the state. He sits on several community boards, including the Hawai‘i State Art Museum and the Friends of the Judiciary History Center, and Chairs the King Kamehameha Celebration Commission, a state commission designated to honor and commemorate Hawai‘i’s first monarch. He’s also an adjunct lecturer at the University of Hawai‘i at Mānoa teaching “Management by Cultural Values” in the School of Tourism Industry Management.

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Kimberly: 00:01 Aloha loves and welcome back to our Monday interview show. I am so excited to share a very special conversation that I had with Kainoa Daines, who is the co-author of the book Island Wisdom, which shares many teachings and practices and perspectives from the Hawaiian Islands. And he’s also the senior director of brand for the Hawaii Visitors Bureau. He is also part of many different organizations and boards. He is an adjunct lecturer at the University of Hawaii teaching management by cultural values in the school of tourism, industry management. So today we talk about many teachings that can benefit all of us. You don’t have to go to Hawaii, you don’t have to live in Hawaii to benefit from this incredible wisdom, even this term, aloha, which we have most all of us have heard, has incredible meaning behind it. And the more that we can tap into this wisdom of these, you know, traditions around the world, and specifically today as we talk about Hawaii, we can gain a lot in modern, modern society.

01:21 We can learn a lot about ourselves and living in harmony with the world around us, finding deeper meaning and deeper connections. So as someone who spends a lot of time in Hawaii as a local, not a Hawaiian, but someone who has been honored to steward some of the land in Hawaii with great love and with great respect, I am especially excited to share this show with you today.

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Interview with Kainoa Daines

Kimberly: 00:00 Um, organic, and we’ll capture everything on there, what

Kainoa: 00:04 We say can and will be used against us in a court of law. Excellent.

Kimberly: 00:08 Kainoa, thank you so much for joining us today. I have to say that I absolutely love your book, island Wisdom. I’ve gone through , essentially, the whole book, and yeah. Thank you so much for making time in your schedule to be with us.

Kainoa: 00:25 Oh, happy to. Thank you for Thanks so much for having me.

Kimberly: 00:28 So I am particularly interested in this incredible rich wisdom that comes from Hawaii. I’ve been spending a lot of time there. I go back and forth to Kauai. Oh, nice. And working with the land. We have, um, a farm and lots of bees. Uh, we have

Kainoa: 00:47 A million. Okay. That’s right. Yes. Good

Kimberly: 00:49 Cow. So, um, coming there I was very sensitive to and the importance of being respectful of the land and the local Hawaiians. And then I started getting there and learning so much Yeah. About the depth, these incredible teachings that I think can benefit everyone. Yeah. And then your book came across my desk. I know this journalist Annie Daley, and she said, yeah, yeah,

Kainoa: 01:13 Yeah.

Kimberly: 01:14 I thought, oh my gosh, this really encapsulates so much in this book. So thank you for bringing this forward in a way that’s accessible. It’s, it’s a very readable book, and I love the size. Yes.

Kainoa: 01:26 It’s super palatable, super digestible. You know, that was kind of the intention for the, those who don’t have the attention span. Um, yes. Now, you know, we have the attention span of a goldfish resources or, or worse than, so being able to, you know, this is a quick flight from California. You know, you can read this, you know, before you land, you know? That’s right. That’s the idea.

Kimberly: 01:51 That’s right. And to get into the top line teaching. Yeah. Like, really be able to absorb. So we’ll start with . I like how you write this. There’s a whole chapter on Aloha. Yeah. And you talk about this deep sigh when it gets brought up. Yeah. Because, you know, let’s face it, in culture, there’s been a lot of, um, cultural misappropriation about Hawaiian ideas and the hula skirts and just sort of this,

Cultural misappropriation regarding Hawaiian ideas

Kainoa: 02:16 You know, oh, over a hundred years .

Kimberly: 02:19 Yeah. And, and so the purpose, our intention today in our conversation is to really bring forth some of these incredible, um, the, the, the wisdom and the teachings, which I have to say kainoa as also a student of Vedic philosophy and yoga. There is, um, there’s a lot of sort of unity there, right. Even when you think of aloha and how deep it is, there’s a whole chapter on it. You know, the greeting, Namaste, which is, I bow down to the light inside of you. It’s not just a simple Hello. Yeah. So maybe we could start there about aloha, which most of us have heard, but we have no clue. Yeah. How deep the meaning of it really is.

Kainoa: 02:59 Yeah. So, aloha, um, is a feeling. It’s an emotion. It’s a way of life. And so when we ask the 20 subjects in island wisdom, what does aloha personally mean to you? All of them were just like, wow, what a deep question. Question that we don’t often ask each other. We greet each other with aloha, aloha. You know, it’s that, you know, or farewell, aloha. It’s just that common, um, it’s a common greeting. But when you really begin to ask that question, what does it personally mean to you? We did notice that everybody kind of just like, oh, here we go. Because now where they’re looking is in, they’re looking deep within themselves. So how do I define this value? This, this notion, this spirit, this connection between people. Um, so when the missionaries pulled up in the 1820s, they saw and heard people saying, Aloha.

03:56 And so in the dictionary just said, hello and goodbye and love. Those are generally the three things that people know about the word. And we could have practically written a whole book on everyone’s answers, you know, and not just one chapter on it. But aloha is showing up for people. Aloha is looking at people as they are. Mm-hmm. aloha you being responsible and accountable for your own actions, in addition to the actions of your ancestors. Wow. Because it takes you farther back and out of your own self to connect to the past, to be accountable that they did all that they did for you to be here today. So being able to have that connection to not just you and I right now, for example, having this aloha for each other, finding time in our schedule, the, you know, the, the greeting between each other.

04:48 That’s all aloha that we’re connecting on right now. You know? But having that aloha in initially also for yourself, that you took the time to wake up and brush your teeth in the morning and to have your breakfast and to take, have aloha for yourself. Mm. Cause you don’t have aloha for yourself. How can you have aloha for someone else? Wow. Or even we not collectively have aloha for this planet we live on, and others that come into our life. The, the, the animals and the plants and the, you know, everything else around us, you know, having aloha for, you know, another phrase that we talk about in the book is Aloha aina. Aloha a’s love for the land. Um,

Kimberly: 05:23 Oh, yes. We kind of, I’m gonna, I’m gonna pause there for a minute. Please. Please. I wanna go into that whole other topic, which is so beautiful. But first on Aloha, I wrote, I love what you wrote here on page 33. I’m going to to quote you here. Okay. Where you say, aloha, these two parts. Alo means being in one’s present face-to-face. Mm-hmm. . Yeah. Ha is your breath or life force. So you say on a larger metaphysical level, it’s about connection. Yeah. It’s the recognition that we are all sharing the same breath. Yeah. The breath of life. And therefore we are all one. So you talked about meeting, coming into this space and this deep, this recognition of this, this one heart, this one life, this, you know, yoga talks about this underlying e uh, energy matrix of all things, you know, that we’re not these isolated beings. Right. You know, it’s just sort of cohabitating, but there’s deep connection. So aloha is this, I mean, I get goosebumps when you think about it this way, this , we are one

Kainoa: 06:24 Connected by that breath that we share, you know, even though you’re not, we are not in the same room. Yeah. That one thing that is connecting us

Kimberly: 06:33 Yes.

Kainoa: 06:34 The air that we’re breathing, you know? Yeah. And, and or the earth that we’re sitting on, you know, while we’re sitting in different parts of that earth, it’s the same thing. So that, that aloha is that reminder that we are all smaller parts of a much bigger, um, force or energy, you know? And there’s different schools of thought where some, some language practitioners don’t like to break down the word aloha. It’s, it’s just what? It’s . So that’s fair. That’s fine. And then you’ve got other schools of thought. Who, but no, let’s look at the, the, the what it, how it’s made up. And so we took that path in the book. And so alo is, you know, us being face-to-face right now, we’re alo to each other. But that ha again, because we’re so far apart from each other, we are connected by that.

07:18 And so yeah. I appreciate that. Um, you’re, you’re getting that, you know, like, like getting that ideal is what we were trying to project. And it’s a such a wow moment, I think for a lot of people. Like they have heard and associate the word aloha with Hawaii and the Hawaiian Islands. But again, it’s just, hello, hello comes from your mouth. Aloha comes from your heart. Yes. Comes from your gut, from your na from your inside. Aloha comes from way deeper down than hello. You know, that’s just a different, like you said, it comes from a, it comes from well within deep within you. And that’s what we’re projecting when we, and when you genuinely have aloha for someone, that genuine love, genuine connection, genuine patience, perseverance, respect, genuine respect, respect. It just naturally comes back to you, right? Mm-hmm. So aloha is reciprocal. Like the air I exhale is air that the plants will breathe in, that you will breathe in someday. And the air that you exhale and breathe in, we’re all breathing. It’s a cycle, right? So when you give of your aloha, it’s meant to come back to you. Aloha, aku from me, Aloha may from you. So it’s this connection, this, this constant connection between, again, not just people, but everything around us. Everything that’s just, everything that oxygen and air sustains that is aloha. That is aloha Wow. In, in Hawaii.

Kimberly: 08:39 And, and then you started to go into the connection with the land. Yeah. And it was really interesting at the beginning of the book, you point out how remote Hawaii is. It’s the most remote landmass on the planet. You go in thousands of miles in any direction, and you don’t, it’s water for thousands of miles. You look at other archipelagos, you know, my mother’s from the Philippines, right? Or you know, Malaysia, whatever it is, it’s closer to Asia. It’s closer to landmass. Why you

Kainoa: 09:05 Can see the land.

Kimberly: 09:06 Yeah, exactly. So can you, um, speak a little bit about how that remoteness informed some of the cultural ideas, traditions, wisdom practices, and, um, the connection to the land?

Remoteness of Hawaii and how this informed some of the cultural ideas, traditions, wisdom practices, and connection to the land

Kainoa: 09:19 I think the idea of isolation for Hawaiians, you know, Hawaiians originally came from Tahiti and the Marquesas Islands, you know, you go back perhaps 2000 plus years ago, and they were, they were, um, wayfinders navigators getting on a canoe and not sure if there was land, but getting on that canoe with that faith and that hope that, you know, we need a new life. We’re not sure why they left Tahiti or why they left the Marquesas Islands. We just know that a group of people said, let’s go and look for something else. And so they, they found Hawaii and in our history for a little while, they went back and forth for a little while. Mm. It’s a long journey though, on a boat from to Hawaii,

Kimberly: 09:57 It not easy. Oh my

Kainoa: 09:58 Gosh. Thousands of years ago in

Kimberly: 10:00 Those little canoes,

Kainoa: 10:02 Well, they were double holed, you know? Yeah. Um, alua, these double hold canoes, sailing canoes. So they weren’t just paddling, but they were using, they were master navigators where they didn’t need a compass, a sex tint, a map. They would look up at the nighttime sky, oh. And use the stars as a map. They would use the swells of the water, the, the, the ocean, the wind waves, the birds. Oh, there’s that certain birds that would know that land is nearby. So they,

Kimberly: 10:25 But how did they know the first time to go out there Kaa? Like, how did they first go? Is there any record of

Kainoa: 10:31 That? You know, the way we look at poly Pacific Ocean, the way Polynesians look at the Pacific Ocean, it’s sort of the blue continent. Mm. Right. So it says, instead of looking at is there’s a bunch of isolated islands and surrounded by water. We look at the mass of the blue continent, Moana, and that we’re all connected by water, we’re connected by water, not separated by water. Mm. And so they navigating amongst the Southern Pacific Islands for generations, for generations, and for thousands of years, making their way from as far back as, um, the native peoples of Taiwan 5,000, 6,000 years ago, coming through Malaysia, Melanesia, you know, Micronesia, et cetera. So they had the idea of wayfinding and navigating already in their d n A and already in their mind. But again, I don’t, I don’t per, I don’t think anybody quite knows why they chose to go the way they did. Right. To go find land that was the most isolated chain of islands in the world. Um, so they, they went back for and forth for a little while, but then they stayed right in their staying in this isolation. It wasn’t a negative thing. It was a positive thing. Cuz they had everything they needed absolute sustainability, absolute live off the land. Everybody had a job

Kimberly: 11:41 Abundant.

Kainoa: 11:42 Everybody at home, everybody was fed. Everybody was taken care of because they began through strict rules, if you will. And, and that’s where that idea of aloha aina, the strict of land and sea, like where it’s not just land ina it’s land, but the strict love so that we have love for the land and that it loves us back. Cuz you know, we look at land is mother earth, uh, concept. So when the Westerners came and they’re like, we’re gonna buy the land, how do you buy your mother? How do you own your mother? You love her and she loves you. You take care of each other. That’s how, who the Taisha and Marques people who el lady later became known as Hawaiians, um, looked at sustainability and looked at le living in a place where, where resources were limited. And so this whole, like religion even came evolved around it with rules that you only fish when the moon, when this moon phase is in the sky.

12:37 And when that moon phase changes, you stop fishing so that that fish can then have a chance to breathe and breed and grow until there’s always fish. Mm-hmm. This plant is only planted and only harvested under this moon or in this season. Mm. Right. When, when this certain fish is spawning, that’s when you can plant this current. So it was all connected so that they had enough so they could feed each other, feed themselves. The idea of water, um, is so important. So the Hawaiian word for wealth, well, excuse me, lemme back. The Hawaiian word for water is vai or Y W A i, depending on the pronunciation. And the Hawaiian word for wealth is vai Vai. So meaning you have plenty of water because now you can grow plenty, you can have enough for to sustain your family and the families that live around you as we’re all one big family in a sense.

13:27 And so, understanding that love for the land of aloha aina, aloha aina later became the phrase for patriotism, the Hawaiian word for patriotism. Because we were overtaken, you know, by America, if you will. I mean that the Yes, the gist of that is actually shared in island wisdom. And it was hard for me. What do I share without turning people away from being able to learn and understand who we are as a people? Yes. We were, we are native people. A lot of native peoples were overtaken, like you mentioned your mother’s family taken over by the Spanish. Yes. So you’ve got all of this colonialism and we need to address that today. This needs to be addressed today. And so island wisdom for me was sort of a hope to begin to share the beginnings of that on a safe set of not safe. I went a little bit deep in certain areas, but to share that we are not American.

14:22 We’re the 50th state. Sure. But, you know, and my father’s from Utah. So in that regard, I’m, you know, Hawaiian and I mean American in that way. But my mom is from ha, Hawaii, Hawaii. My grandma is from Hawaii, her grandparents are from Hawaii. We are Hawaiian. Yes. Where we trace our ancestors back to those tahitians that that came up here, pulled up 2000 plus years ago. And we know nothing different. And this is our home. Yes. This is our place. And so there’s a lot of that injustice that, not saying that this book is answering that and or you know, but at least acknowledging it so that those that read it, you know, Americans or fellow Americans can read it and understand, ooh, the 50th state has some differences from the other 49

Kimberly: 15:03 . I mean, to put it lightly. Right. And I think you did such a great job of, um, just calling light again to this, this, I don’t even call it a, a state this incredible Yeah. Um, place, you know, place , um, has so much wisdom. Right? Yeah. I mean, we talk about topics and the book about, you know, which I’m very interested in, um, listening to the inner voice. I’m gonna call out a few and we’ll talk about them. And then, um, you said talk about, you know, being one with the land and this deep, I think I’m saying ma maana maana

Kainoa: 15:39 Malama

Kimberly: 15:40 Maana to to care for

Kainoa: 15:43 Malama. Yeah.

Kimberly: 15:43 Malama beyond, beyond just, you know, again, this limited self. We think about a lot of the problems in culture today where it’s just me, me, me, isolated me. Yeah. And we’re not in this harmonious, expansive connection. And I think there’s so much Hawaiian wisdom around that. When you look at, um, the Hawaiians I meet when I’m there are, um, there is a different energy, there’s a wisdom, there’s a groundedness. Yeah. There’s this a laugh, like you talked about the aloha coming from defense side. There’s like this soft acceptance, understanding this, this depth Right. That I think is important for anyone that’s going to Hawaii to respect and to know about. And people, like you said, even if you don’t go there, there are teachings, there are things that are for all

Kainoa: 16:29 Of them, it that you can pull from here and live in y

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Wellness Insights: How to Listen to Your Body for Nutritional Guidance How the Power Foods Diet helps with Weight Loss with Dr. Neal Barnard EP. 877 How Not to Age with New York Times best-selling author Dr. Michael Greger How to eat to reduce anxiety with Harvard nutritional psychiatrist Dr. Uma Naidoo Powered and Distributed by: PodcastOne Transcript: Welcome to the Feel Good Podcast, which is all about heart-led living and wellness. When we awaken the power of our hearts and let that guide us through our daily choices and decisions, through our four cornerstones, food, body, emotional well-being, and spiritual growth, we will experience the most incredible results and create more vitality, health, strength, peace, abundance, and love in our lives. I am your host, Kimberly Snyder, New York Times bestselling author, founder of Solluna, creator of the research-based Heart Aligned Meditation, wellness expert, nutritionist, and international speaker. I am passionate about supporting you on your unique heart and wellness journey. For more information on todays show please go to mysolluna.com for show notes and links. Let’s get started. Speaker 1 (01:29.13)So thank you so much for being here with us today and congrats on your new book. This is your second one. Speaker 2 (01:30.73) Yeah, yeah, my first one, Tiny Human’s Big Emotions came out in 2023. I was like 32 weeks pregnant when that one published, was a whirlwind. Wow. Yeah, that one hit the New York Times bestseller list, which was exciting. Yeah. And then a few weeks after it published, was doing well. Our editor reached out and was like, Alyssa, will you write another book? I was like, actually, I just need a nap. I’m so tired. And so I turned to Rachel, who I’ve worked with, had the privilege of working with now for seven years. And she works with me at my company. And I asked her she would write this bad boy with me. And she said, yeah. So we were able to do it. Well, I think this is so great because many of us are parents in the community or are thinking about being parents in the future or even not. feel like parenting books help us understand ourselves. And I can say as a parent, there’s been this incredible experience of feeling like I’m reparenting myself. And most of us are not learned. You we don’t learn. to handle emotions, have tools as you talk about in your book. And I went through this period of this, where it’s like, hmm, you know, it just felt a little sad and I had to process that. But I also think we’re given the, you know, the childhoods that were meant to be given. But I feel like this is, you know, this is big stuff we’re talking about here. Yeah, people often say they like come for their kids, but they stay for themselves. That so much of this work. We say if you have a nervous system like this works for you. We are really just talking about neuroscience and what it’s like to be a human on planet Earth and be in relationship with other humans. And man, it’s doozy sometimes. Yeah. Speaker 1 (02:55.63)Yeah, and I like how you talk about upfront. It’s not about trying to shield ourselves or our children from hardships because you know my nine-year-old now I can see him being more self-conscious about what he wears to school and Then he told me that there was a child like in one of the older grades who kind of made fun of his dog man sure now he won’t wear it and it just brings up stuff and It’s a lot like all the layers of kind of reliving what we’ve been through as parents. 100%. And I find for myself as a parent, there’s nothing harder than just watching your child experience something hard, like being made fun of, feeling left out, feeling that shame or embarrassment. And knowing that it’s not our job to take it away, but instead to be with them through those hard things to let them know that they can navigate this and survive it. It’s so hard. to do in practice as a parent is allowing it. Well, I’m not sure that all of us were even raised with parents that were aware that there was hardship. I wasn’t. I’m not just blaming my parents or anything. just I don’t think that’s how they were raised either. So I just know that there was a lot of things that I pushed down because I couldn’t handle them. Speaker 1 (04:26.614)And I think that’s ultimately why I turned to certain things like bulimia and eating disorders. I couldn’t digest life. And, you know, as adults, we continue to learn and grow and pass on, you know, more tools to our children. Totally, and we’re not gonna heal all the things and that’s okay too. I think of my friend, Dr. Linietta Willis, she’s an intergenerational trauma therapist. And she talks about our legacy blessings and our legacy burdens. And our legacy blessings are those things that we wanna pass on, that we inherited and that we want to pass on to our children in the next gen. And our legacy burdens are those things that maybe we don’t want to pass on, but also knowing that we’re not going to heal all the burdens, that some of them will get passed on and that’s okay. We get to give our kids the tools and the outlets to continue to heal and process. Yeah Speaker 1 (05:24.078)Well, I love how, and we’ll get into some of the more specific tools you talk about, but there’s a underlying theme of connection, which is, you know, in my work with the heart and just being connected to self and always, even if we’re not perfect parents, if we can stay empathetic, we can be connected. Our children will really feel that. 100%. And when we’re talking about different topics in big kids in this book, we talk about a number of different topics, but you’re right, the through line is not it. The goal isn’t to say, Hey, say this script at this time, or say these exact words or do this exact thing. The through line for us is how do you maintain connection and just stay in relationship with each other and recognizing that Yeah. Speaker 2 (06:13.336)Sometimes relationship is messy and hard and sometimes it feels good and easy and you’re not failing if you’re in conflict in relationship or you’re in the messy hard parts. That’s just a part of being in relationship with each other. Right. Well, you know, as you say, these tiny humans and then middle childhood, there’s different things happening on in their brain and their prefrontal cortex and the way that they process information. So I want to ask you as a parent, you know, some real questions. And then of course, it will illustrate some of the information that you share in big kids, bigger, bigger feelings. either you or Rachel use an example where, obviously paraphrasing here, but I think it was one of the daughters. was teasing the sibling. then the mama, which was you, Rachel, said, well, no screen time tomorrow, if you remember this. And I think as a parent, sometimes we see behaviors in our children. And in our family dynamic, our older son, who’s four years older than our younger son, who’s now five, sometimes he’ll take his choice because he can, and he’s bigger, or he’ll do things. And as hard as a parent, like we don’t know. Sometimes you wanna say, because my kids don’t get screen time except on the weekends. So sometimes I’ll say something, well, next Saturday you’re not gonna get your 30 minutes of screen time. like you said, it’s punishment, give, take, but sometimes you don’t know what else to do. Totally, yeah. Well, and that’s real and a part of just being a human on planet Earth too, that you’re not always gonna in the moment have the answers. So giving ourselves grace is so key here too. But in an ideal world, what we’re looking at is trying to identify, we get to be like a detective and see what’s the need that’s driving this behavior. So when your older son comes and takes that toy from his younger son, is it a need for connection? Speaker 2 (08:08.768)Is he really trying to connect or engage or get somebody’s attention, which is a connection? You get so much attention though. Some of our kids, it’s like a leaky cup. It can feel like a leaky cup for connection. I have a high connection seeker. My daughter’s a high connection seeker. And it can feel like there’s not enough connection in the world that will be enough for her. And my son is not a high connection seeker. It’s almost like it feels easier to fill his connection cup. But also for him, his sensory needs are more demanding than hers. we all just have our own little blueprint walking through this world. But when we can look at what is the need driving the behavior and we break these down into two categories. We have sensory needs and we talk about the nervous system, the nine sensory systems which we can get into. But when we’re looking at that, we’re really looking at are they under stimulated or overstimulated? Are they hungry? Are they tired? Do they need to move their body? Do they need a break from stim? They need to chill. Right, okay. That’s more easier to decode in a way. Speaker 2 (09:11.822)For a lot of us, we grew up in cultures where sensory needs were seen as needs. Food, water, movement, were seen as needs. And connection needs were often seen as wants. It was like attention-seeking behavior, and that was a negative thing. And it wasn’t seen as, you need attention, that you have this need for inclusion or belonging or knowing that you’re loved or worthy or valued. so for a lot of us, the connection needs can actually be quite triggering. where it can feel like, my gosh, this kid’s so needy. They need so much. And that’s our own bias coming up into play and being able to recognize that is half the battle. And then really being able to see like, okay, this is a need for connection. And maybe I just spent a bunch of time connecting with this kiddo and maybe they’re a high connection needs kid. And so what are the outlets for that? Great. Speaker 2 (10:07.154)And we give some examples in the book. And I was actually, was just at an event down in LA where we were, I was met with a group of a hundred moms and we were talking about exactly this. Like what are ways that we can help our kids? Like if I can’t give them more connection in this moment, I’m cooking dinner or I’m trying to do something. What are outlets for that? And we have things like journaling back and forth or being able to call a friend and chat with them on the phone or. FaceTime a grandparent or a cousin or a friend or an aunt or uncle and find ways to have that outlet that’s not always directly from you as the parent or maybe even from the sibling who might have lower connection needs and kind of needs a break to be by themselves for a little bit. Right. Okay. So would you say as a parenting expert, Alyssa, punishment or taking things away doesn’t really work? It just doesn’t solve the problem. What we’re going to do is we’re responding to the behavior on the surface. As long as we’re not meeting that need, you’re going to keep seeing new behaviors pop up because the need doesn’t go away. Right? In the same way that if you had like a baby who was hungry, you could bounce them and shush them all day long, but until you feed them, they’re not going to stop crying because they’re hungry. And if we have a child who needs to move their body or a child who needs to connect, we might put out the fires on the surface, but until we meet that need, you’re just gonna see new ones pop up. Speaker 1 (11:40.226)Do you think that there’s some children in the way that they’re, you know, finding their way in the world? Like my older son is very mischievous, for example. Slime in my farm boots and he thinks it’s hilarious and he laughs like he’s always… Pranks like he loves it. And he just thinks it’s hilarious. And he gets so much attention. Again, like always, all the time. Do you feel like maybe some of this behavior is, you he wants his… He would. Speaker 2 (11:54.888)Such a connection seeker. Speaker 1 (12:09.57)get a rise out of his brother and. really from a place of connection. I want your attention. want you to notice me. brother. From anybody, right? Our high connection seekers, they’ll seek it out anywhere. we can help them identify that. I would say things like, that was a silly prank that you did, or that was silly joke. Did you want me to laugh? Were you trying to connect with me and help kind of bridge that awareness for them of when you’re doing these things, it’s because you want to connect. That’s how we help build their awareness of what is my need. So then when they grow up in the world, they can move through the world knowing, when I feel this way, it’s because I’m hungry. When I feel that way, it’s because I’m tired. When I feel this way, I need to move my body. When I’m doing these things, it’s because I need to connect with somebody, because I need to feel that sense of connection and belong. you Speaker 1 (13:07.278)As many of you know, I’ve been drinking our beloved Power Protein Smoothie Community Recipe for many years. And I do this day to day as a great way to get energizing protein into my day without feeling too heavy. Usually I drink it in the early or mid afternoons. 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I highly recommend that you also incorporate electrolytes into your routine as well to optimize your hydration, which your body, mind, and heart will greatly benefit from. And for now, our amazing community listeners, We’ll get a free sample pack with any element drink mix at www.drinkelement.com slash feel good. That’s eight single serving packets for free with any element drink mix purchase. Please go to www.drinkelement.com slash feel good. That’s www.drinklmnt.com slash feel good. Also check out the new element sparkling, which is a sparkly, fizzy electrolyte water if you love fizzy drinks. Speaker 1 (16:34.958)I’ll just tell you a fear as a parent hearing this is, again, he gets so much attention. Again, everybody says it, right? I pay so much attention to E. So I guess my fear is if he’s still wanting more, what if when he grows up, he gets into unhealthy relationships or he just always has to be in a relationship because of that. I want to reframe, like, you’re looking at intimate relationships. I see most often with our high connection seekers, they often actually seek it out even much outside of intimate relationships in friendships and in other spaces where, like, they might be the human who corrals kids to, like, all get together and play a game or they can often be, like, leaders in a pack where they… are so many outlets for connection that it’s not just an intimate one-to-one relationship. There are so many avenues for it. And as they continue to grow, they’ll find places to connect in different ways to make that happen. And we can support them along the way. But these are humans who it’s a superpower and we need them in this world. My daughter is like this. She is a high connection seeker. She walks into a room of 100 people she doesn’t know. And she’s like, my God, yes, 100 new friends. She’s 20 months. And she’s four? my gosh. and do you think that correlates with being an extrovert? Yeah, a lot of way. Speaker 2 (18:00.494)A lot of our high connection seeking kiddos are also extroverted. You a little bit have to be because it’s going to fill that cup, right? That like when you’re in that, although I just had a kid pop into my head who I when I was teaching and he was five years old and he had high connection needs, but he was an introvert and he would seek out more one to one like peer connection connection for me as a teacher. But he would look forward in those kind of smaller groups. activities and avenues, but he would glom on to like other kids and just want to be near them and want to talk to them and want to share and yada yada. But it was like he had one or two good friends in each space. He wasn’t like, I want to hang out with everyone in the class. Well, so there’s natural extroverts, introverts, connectors, like you said. How do you think this relates to, and you know, this is sort of on a spiritual level and in yogic traditions, you talk about the true self and self connection, which is self-effulgence and fulfilling and being so connected to the love inside that you wanna share it with people, but you’re not needing it. Yeah, I think that we’re, I’m going to pull in the like neuroscience and too. When we’re looking at this, I want to recognize that there’s not a human on the planet where there’s a one size fits all. Right? all of us, our nervous systems operate differently in the way that we integrate stimuli, the way that we integrate the world around us and make sense of it is different for all of us. And for some kids, they are their superpowers. I can noticing the details. or they know if something moves in their environment. They can get really dysregulated by like piles or clutter or things like that because they’re super attuned to the visual stimuli in their space. Some humans who sound, they’re really aware of the sounds in their environment and they can get really overstimulated by sound, especially if there’s competing sounds happening. Some kids who notice the details of how clothing feels in a heightened way. It’s too itchy, it’s too tight, it’s too something. Speaker 2 (20:02.378)And I look at these as superpowers, that they’re really good at noticing, they’re very attuned to those senses. And there are some humans who aren’t as attuned, and for them, can, it then appears as though they can maybe be more easygoing or they can move through the world differently, because their brain isn’t so hyper-focused on like, my gosh, what is that noise? I can’t stop hearing that clicking sound in the background and kind of tuning into those things in different ways. And so when we’re looking at the integration of all of that stimuli. We go through the nine senses in the book and outline it. But I think it’s really important in then saying like how you integrate them then determines how you show up in the world and what you need from the world around you based on how your nervous system is integrating that stimuli, because it’s going to find kind of homeostasis and regulation in different ways based on your unique nervous system. Does that make sense? It does to me. It sounds a little complicated to explain to a child. for sure. I’m going to break it down in different words to Yeah, to a kid. we this so the bulk of the work that we do at Seed is in school systems. I work in schools, elementary, middle schools, and then in childcare programs. And we teach teachers like how to talk to kids about this. How do you teach them about their nervous system? Totally. Well, there’s this idea of self-regulation even is something I think we need to really break down that and self-regulation. Speaker 2 (21:32.404)You teach self-regulation through co-regulation and self-regulation isn’t one size fits all. Wait, so say that again for a moment. mean co-regulation, you regulate yourself and then you’re in the space and then… You know, it’s like goosebumps. It’s almost like the science of heart coherence. Well, our hearts are giving off a magnetic field that’s 100 times stronger than the brain. So when we’re more emotionally calm, you talk about emotional intelligence and the more coherent, our heart rhythms are smooth and our… borrowing your comms. Speaker 2 (21:52.108)Not anymore. Speaker 1 (22:06.306)Brains are nervous, everything’s in sync. People around you feel that. Totally. So as we calm ourselves, we can calm our children more. That’s right. I think of it like the difference between a thermometer and a thermostat. A thermometer is just going to read the temperature of the room, you’re going to join it. A thermostat sets that temperature. And in order to set that temperature, you have to be mindful of your own regulation. So often we want kids to regulate for us. We want them to get calm for us when we can’t. Right. Yeah, I see parents who are literally screaming in public. Yeah. And they’re like, you calm down. We’re at the playground and I heard this, this mom didn’t know we were there. We were in the bathroom and she was like talking to her two girls and then me and my younger son came out and she was like embarrassed. I mean, I felt bad for her because obviously she didn’t want, no one wants to be that person. Nobody wants to be in that state where their body feels so out of control that you’re like, need the humans around me to change their behavior so I can feel in control. And so so much, that’s why I said so many folks, they come for the kids, but stay for themselves that we dive into what is, how does your nervous system work? What does it look like to learn how to build your own self-awareness and self-regulation so that we can then navigate co-regulation with our kids so that Speaker 2 (23:28.098)when our kid comes in and they roll their eyes and they slam the door and they give a sass or the sarcasm or whatever, that we can be the calm force in that moment. And it doesn’t mean I don’t hold boundaries. It doesn’t mean that any behavior is allowed. It does mean that I am really working on, okay, how do I calm my body so that I can respond with intention instead of react from a place of dysregulation. So let’s play this out for any mamas out there who have teenagers or getting close to teenagers, not there yet. But although I’ve seen some behavior from my nine-year-old defiance and disrespect, which you talk about in the book. Let’s say your teenager comes home and you say, or, hey, I’ll be the teenager. Well, it seems like something happened at school today. I’m fine. Yeah, I am here if you want to chat. Would you like space or do you want to talk about? Speaker 1 (24:30.862)Why are you so annoying? Why are you always trying to say that to me? I love you so much. I’m going to be cooking in the kitchen. If you want to come touch base, that’s where I’ll be That’s not a fun. Okay. Let’s do another one. Yeah. I mean, so it’s a center. You’re the center and you’re not trying to grab. Okay. I love it. I’m not taking the bait. Right? Like the bait is all, that would be me joining their energy. And I’m saying like, I’ve got you. I’m still calm in your storm. Okay, let’s do this one, which I have experienced where my son will call me by my first name and I don’t like it. Sure. Okay, so I’ll be the teenager tween, okay? Yeah. Comes home from school. Hey, Alyssa. Speaker 2 (25:15.544)Hey, did you want my attention? I heard you use my first name. Alisha? Yeah, it does sound like you want my attention. I’m here if you want to chat or hang. Lyssa, Lyssa! Yeah, come

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The Connection Between Body Movements and our Emotional & Physical health with Henry Abbott [EP. #1011]

Week’s Episode Special Guest: Henry Abbott Summary: In this episode Kimberly Snyder speaks with Henry Abbott, a former ESPN journalist and physical movement expert, discussing his new book ‘Ballistic: The New Science of Injury-Free Athletic Performance.’ They explore the importance of heart-led living, the connection between movement and emotional well-being, and the significance of understanding our body’s mechanics to prevent injuries. The conversation emphasizes the need for diverse movement practices, the role of weightlifting, and the impact of hydration and nutrition on overall health. Abbott shares insights on how to improve mobility and stability, particularly focusing on the hips, and the importance of trusting our bodies to move freely and joyfully. About Henry Abbott Henry Abbott is an award-winning journalist and founder of TrueHoop. He led ESPN’s Networks 60-person NBA (National Basketball Association) digital and print team, which published several groundbreaking articles on sports science and body injury prevention. He also won a National Magazine Award. Abbott currently lives in New Jersey. Guest Resources: Website: treuhoop.com Book: Ballistic: The New Science of Injury-Free Athletic Performance Episode Sponsors: LMNT OFFER: Right now, for my listeners LMNT is offering a free sample pack with any LMNT drink mix purchase at DrinkLMNT.com/FEELGOOD. That’s 8 single serving packets FREE with any LMNT any LMNT drink mix purchase. This deal is only available through my link so. Also try the new LMNT Sparkling — a bold, 16-ounce can of sparkling electrolyte water. USE LINK: DrinkLMNT.com/FEELGOOD FATTY15 OFFER: Fatty15 is on a mission to replenish your C15 levels and restore your long-term health. 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USE LINK: fatty15.com/KIMBERLY Episode Chapters 00:00 Heart-Led Living and Wellness Introduction00:53 Exploring Athletic Performance and Injury Prevention03:06 The Importance of Connection to Movement05:42 Understanding Movement Patterns and Injury Risks09:01 The Role of Hips in Mobility and Stability12:00 Weightlifting and Its Benefits for Women15:00 Hydration and Nutrition for Optimal Performance17:38 The Science of Movement and Body Awareness20:50 Fascial Release and Its Impact on Mobility23:31 The Interconnection of Physical and Emotional Health26:35 Embracing Diverse Movement Practices29:31 The Role of Animals in Understanding Movement32:41 Conclusion and Call to Action SOLLUNA PRODUCT LINKS Glowing Greens Powder™ Feel Good SBO Probiotics Feel Good Detoxy Feel Good Digestive Enzymes Feel Good Starter Kit Feel Good Skincare KIMBERLY’S BOOKS Chilla Gorilla & Lanky Lemur Journey to the Heart The Beauty Detox Solution Beauty Detox Foods Beauty Detox Power Radical Beauty Recipes For Your Perfectly Imperfect Life You Are More Than You Think You Are OTHER PODCASTS YOU MAY ENJOY! Wellness Insights: How to Listen to Your Body for Nutritional Guidance How the Power Foods Diet helps with Weight Loss with Dr. Neal Barnard EP. 877 How Not to Age with New York Times best-selling author Dr. Michael Greger How to eat to reduce anxiety with Harvard nutritional psychiatrist Dr. Uma Naidoo Powered and Distributed by: PodcastOne Transcript: Speaker 1 (00:00.302)Welcome to the Feel Good Podcast, which is all about heart led living and wellness. When we awaken the power of our hearts and let that guide us through our daily choices and decisions, through our four cornerstones, food, body, emotional well being and spiritual growth, we will experience the most incredible results and create more vitality, health, strength, peace. abundance and love in our lives. I am your host, Kimberly Snyder, New York Times bestselling author, founder of Saluna, creator of the research-based Heart Aligned Meditation, wellness expert, nutritionist and international speaker. I am passionate about supporting you on your unique heart and wellness journey. Let’s get started. Speaker 1 (00:57.518)Hi everyone, welcome back to our Monday interview show. I am so excited for our very special guest. Joining us here today, Henry Abbott, who is a former ESPN journalist, a physical movement expert, and he has a new bestselling book out called Ballistic, the New Science of Injury-Free Athletic Performance. He talks about research on pain, psychology, biomechanics, and neuroplasticity. And as we all know, this is such an important topic today to increasing our mobility, keeping our mobility going for decades to come, to really enjoying our lives, to living with our hearts, to living with passion, to avoiding injuries and aches and pains, which really detract so much from our enjoyment of life, our spiritual growth, so many things. So Henry, thank you so much for being here with us today. It’s a delight. Thank you for having me. And so you and I were chatting a little bit before about your daughter, who I know is involved in soccer, and I was saying, Henry, I love your book. Really cool cover, by the way. If any of you guys are watching this on YouTube or if you’re listening, check out our YouTube so you can see the beautiful cover. And I said, you know, at first, you you say, oh, athletic performance. And some could say, hey, well, I’m not really an athlete. So this doesn’t apply to me. But as I got into the research and the book, and there’s some really interesting things that you’ll talk about here about glutes, really helping with back pain, hips, like lots of things. I said, you know, this is such an important topic for women and everyday women like me and moms. So that’s, you know, it just, it’s a lot broader. It’s really for everyone actually, we could say. Speaker 2 (02:41.718)I know this sounds like super salesy and woo woo or whatever, this really is like these people that we’ll talk about have a different lens for looking at the human body. They’re looking at it with biomechanical, granular biomechanical movement data. Who cares? Why is that fun? like, if you look this way, you start unlocking all kinds of crazy stuff about how to manage your body a little better. You kind of end up with a better owner’s manual to your own body. and get to age better. I’m trying to do it myself right now, right? So I feel like we have MRIs, we have x-rays, they solve a bunch of problems, but they don’t solve all the problems. And a lot of us are struggling with things that we can see in how we move. And that’s kind of, I think, important revelation for all of us moving forward. Well, one of the things we talk about here so much, Henry, in the community is connection, right? Connection to your heart, connection to your intuition, connection to what foods would best serve you and so on. And I think a lot of us develop movement patterns that maybe we’re not really connected to or fully aware of that form from an early age or some sort of emotional trauma or something can. cause our feet to turn out, or I know I can dump a lot in my hips, or I lean on one side, and I noticed a lot, you know, I held my babies on one side of my body. And so I think it’s really important to bring that connection back to movement because we’re in this physical bodily temple to house us through. And if we’re abusing it in these microwaves or not really nourishing proper movement, it does have a profound effect on our life’s experience. It’s super real and your doctor doesn’t know about this, unless you have a really good doctor, right? But like they, there’s a kind of a dumb example in the book of the guy who’s the founder of P3 that the book is about. His name is Marcus Elliott. was suspecting there was a better way to prevent injury while he was training to become an elite triathlete. And he would reach his hand forward in the pool and, you know, end up with pain in his shoulder. And then his coach was like, just move your hand a little bit out to the side, right? Speaker 2 (04:52.34)and all the pain went away. We all understand this could happen, right? Of course how you move can have these effects, right? But he was like, well, look at that. That’s kind of like he was going to have an injury and then he moved a little differently and then he was fine. I think so that’s one little super basic example. We all are doing this to ourselves. I think we’re open to the idea that maybe if you jog the way that you land on the ground or the way that you know, there’s People debate should you land on your heels or on the ball of your foot or on your toes or should you get these shoes or those shoes. Like we’re used to the idea that these things could, with all those steps, pounding again and again, end up with like maybe your knees hurt or maybe your hips hurt, right? And so I think we’re used to the idea that how you move can inform whether or not you get injured. These are the people who are just taking that and really making a scientific approach out of it, making a systematic scientific study of like what kinds of movements tend to connect to what kinds of outcomes. You know, it’s interesting in the beginning of the book, you say, know, trainers say that we often go back to the type of movement that we did in high school or earlier. And it’s funny because I played soccer, you know, when I was younger and then I stopped. And now my older son is nine and we play a lot of soccer and I’m experiencing some those knee pains. I’m oh, don’t run like this anymore. It’s sort of taking me back to that period in time. And I just stopped Henry, right? Instead of trying to figure out like maybe I’m not really running correctly or, I did some marathons too. And I don’t know. It was just interesting because it’s like, huh, I don’t know if this is the pounding or my son’s place a little rough, it’s, you know, it’s funny. He’s a rough nine year old, that’s what’s happening. Speaker 1 (06:33.422)He’s a rough nine-year-old. We have a lawn and we love to, know, anyways, sort of rough house. But I think it’s amazing when we can sort of say, like you said, I think what’s interesting is micro shifts. You know, people are experiencing towards injury, but so many aches and pains. As you know, Henry, it’s really common back pain. For me, a lot of women, hip pain. And so how do we sort of take this research and some of the things you talk about in the book and apply it to, again, the everyday movement and our workouts so we can benefit? Yeah, so I think there’s so much to unpack there. One for me is just thinking about the goal. And after spending three years marinating in all of this super geeky stuff about, you know, hips and knees and ankles and how we move and all this stuff, you know, I think it was important for me to kind of think about what is the real goal of all this. to me, my personal answer is like two dogs playing on the beach, like off leash dogs just romping around. maybe they’re in the ocean, maybe they aren’t, they’re covered in sand, they’re throwing each other down, but they’re having the time of their lives, right? And that’s movement, right? That’s really moving, right? And so to me, moving with joy, I’m not a dog, but to me, that kind of fun, driving that amount of fun from how you move is to me the goal. And so I’ve done a lot of physical therapy in my life. I’ve done a bunch of, injured myself a bunch of different ways. And I know that sometimes you have to go, or this place from writing about P3, know, NBA players, NFL players, MLB players, WNBA players, they’re in there doing their prescribed workouts with coaches watching carefully and it’s work, it’s real work. But that’s not the goal, right? The goal is for you to play soccer with your son, hopefully to be feeling great doing that, right? Like the goal is to have this body just move how you want it to move. And so what’s keeping us from that? Speaker 2 (08:36.662)And it’s tricky. We all have different bodies and there’s not going to be one answer for all of us. But some big themes do emerge from all of the thousands of athletes that they’ve studied. And one of the big ones is that basically every single one of us needs to work on our hips. Yes. In different ways. your hips, women tend to be more mobile than men, but plenty of women are not mobile enough. And so either your hips need work on mobility or stability. when mobility is not exactly the same as yoga, but you could think of it as a yoga type move or stability would be more weightlifting. You need to put muscles around your hips to keep them from being dangerously unstable. It’s to know which one of those you’re in. Yes. when you say that, obviously men, everybody has a different body, but in general, can say women’s hips, you know, kind of go out and they don’t align with your waist and they don’t drop straight down to your knees. So how does that affect injuries for women, whether we’re talking about stabilizing or mobility versus a man’s body, which is more linear. There’s all kinds of, like we’re hundreds of years into kind of guessing around that issue, right? And one of the big topics is ACL tears, right? This is where women athletes tend to have eight times the ACL tear rate of men. So why is that? It’s like a big mystery, right? And if you want that, you can go and watch like the finest experts in the land have given lectures on this and like they’re all like one theory is hormones. One theory is exactly as you described, like the just the geometry, right? There’s theories about how big is the actual ligament, right? Women tend to have a smaller ligament or how big is the canal the ligament sits in and on and on. All these things that are easy to study with MRI and x-ray or blood tests, they’ve been studied. if you go and look at these lectures, the answer is everything is wrong. Every single theory has a study that proves it and one that disproves it. It’s all messy. Speaker 2 (10:45.454)It’s hard to find a bright thing. So when you just look at movement, you see that there is like 100 % of NBA players who tour the ACL land on the outside of their foot and then roll to the inside. It’s a little movement that no one studies that is 100 % or like another very common thing. Big theory that’s gone around and probably we all have trainers who will cite this, right, is about cue angles. Do you know about cue angles? Have you heard this phrase before? Okay, so this is exactly what you’re describing with like if your hips are wider, there’s a chance for your legs to like your knees to basically have a can travel in towards each other as you squat. Yeah, it’s like they call it valgus collapse. Please explain. Speaker 1 (11:34.177)I Speaker 2 (11:37.964)Right? And so if you were to squat in front of a trainer and your knees were to dive in together, they would like have a cow. They would be very upset about this. Right? So this Q angle thing is seen as like a major risk factor for catastrophic knee injury. what they found in a bazillion, studying thousands, literally thousands of athletes and how they move at P3 is that just having your knees dive in like that is not a giant risk factor. Instead, Some of those cases where you need to dive in, have something happening that’s very hard to see with the naked eye, which is your femur, your upper leg bone, is rotating. And it ends up being kind of like twisting the drumstick off the turkey. And it like, that tears your ACL, is your upper leg bone rotating. And so when I talked about needing hip stability, this is what we’re talking about, is like, you can literally lift weights to build the muscles to hold your femur in place so it doesn’t rotate. That’s like the kind of work we should all be doing, but that so far most of us don’t even know to think about. you Healthy fats are essential for our health and wellbeing. And I’m so excited to share with you a very exciting scientific breakthrough to support our long-term health, wellness, and beauty. C15. This is the first essential fatty acid to be discovered in 90 years. Studies have confirmed that C15 is three times better, broader, and safer than taking omega-3s. 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And one of the easiest and most effective steps that we can do on a regular basis is to create optimal hydration in our body. It’s really the difference between a grape and a raisin. Of course, the grape is beautiful and looks supple and is full of water. And that’s what we want our energy to feel like. That’s what we want our skin to look like, glowy and supple and just full of that beautiful hydration. So it comes down to water, of course. That’s quite obvious. But also electrolytes, right? Electrolytes are a really important part of hydration and we need to replace them regularly. And I’ve been talking about certain foods for years, like celery and chard and certain foods, which are really great to help with electrolyte levels. But in our modern busy days, and because we’re running around and we’re sweating and there’s stress, I also recommend adding a packet of electrolyte to your room temperature water every day as I do. And the reason for this is that in one packet, you’ll get a hefty dose of science-backed electrolytes. Speaker 1 (15:38.894)including sodium, potassium, and magnesium. It has no added sugars or filler. And it’s just a great way to ensure that you’re really staying hydrated. And this is one of the easiest, I find, and most effective wellness steps because hydration is fundamental to our organs functioning at their best and also to enhance detoxification and many other things. So right now, Element is offering our amazing feel-good community. free sample pack with any element drink mix that’s drink element comm slash feel good D R I N K LM NT comm slash feel good to get your eight single serving packets for free once again drink element comm slash feel good Speaker 1 (16:36.012)the diagrams in the book as well. The visual because unless we’re, you know, a trainer or we studied a lot, it’s like it can be hard to visualize on a level with these detailed bones and the muscles. Yeah, no, this guy, John Early did these illustrations and they were like, they’re hard to do because they have to be like medically accurate, but also hopefully kind of like fun to look at. Right. This one is I think maybe important. I don’t know if you’re if you’re watching. Yes. OK. So when I mentioned that everybody’s hips need help with mobility or stability, you can do a little test. Right. If you can side plank all 10 toes pointing forward with your leg elevated, your body like in a big X. If you can hold that for 30 seconds, just lock it out, then they would say that your hip stability is sufficient, right? Like your hips are stable enough. Similarly, if you can do this standing figure four, so you’re like, take your, let’s say your right ankle and hook it over your left knee, rest it on top of your left knee, and then sit down and get so that like your hips are are level with your knees. If you can sit down like that, then your hips are mobile enough. But If you’re like me, then you can’t do either of those things and you have to work on it. Right? So we all got to work on these things. Yeah, it’s cool. These are both yoga poses or asanas that can be incorporated in a routine. This is a version of an ukta asana. Yeah, and that’s, I love that. That’s really interesting, seeing the diagrams, because I’m like, hey, I’ve done these movements before. I never thought about them in terms of this language, but they’re kind of fun to do. Speaker 2 (18:21.688)Do think you can lock out that side plank like that for 30 seconds? Gosh, Henry, it’s, you I used to have such a serious asana practice. It was every day, hour and a half. And then I started shifting to walking for different reasons, to getting outside. It’s just a break in the middle of my day. And it’s really hilly where I live. I live in the mountains, so it’s like quite a tough walk. But, you know, my husband keeps saying, you know, got to do more upper body lifting, you know, for bone health. And I got some weights. And so I’m… thinking about shifting the routine. So I’ll report back to you because I don’t know. Honestly, I used to do it a lot and definitely hold it for that long, but it’s been some years. So it’ll be interesting to see what I try. I’d be interested to know. It’s hard. I mean, it’s hard. My wife is amazing at that kind of stuff. She can do it. She can do all that stuff. she’s very, she can go to any yoga class and just fall right into whatever the teacher is doing and just fine with it. But me, I don’t have that kind of, that’s not my forte. Well, know, injuries even within yoga in the last few years of my practice, I noticed when you’re doing the warrior poses, because people think, yoga is great for injuries and it doesn’t have slow impact. But I would experience towards the end hip pain from doing the warriors. And again, I don’t know if that’s dumping into my hip or not having enough hip stability, but I did experience some pain from the asanas. What do you think about that? Speaker 2 (19:54.54)Yeah, that brings up an interesting point. I grew up, my family, have, parents and sister, we have really tight hamstrings. And so to me, anyone with hip mobility is like a magician. And clearly you’re better off, clearly you’re better injury resistance, et cetera. So I’m always working on trying to get more hip mobility. And so I’ve been to a bunch of yoga classes and I always think the teacher is probably someone who’s just in a better category than me in terms of injury risk, right? But Marcus Elliott, who this book is largely about, he was explaining that when his first yoga teacher in Santa Barbara, where he lives, she had the most incredibly mobile hips and she would show off. She could do all these crazy yoga moves that no one else could do. But she had both hips replaced in her early 50s. he would explain the reason why is because she didn’t have hip stability. Right? Like she worked crazy on hip mobility, he’s like, but if she had just done basic weightlifting to just, you know, she could move that hip super mobile, but like she didn’t have the control of it to keep it from getting out of place. And for things like our femur rotating other lots of other things from hips ability, like she didn’t have very stable hips and you want both. What kind of weightlifting would you do to stabilize your hips? There’s a fair amount of that kind of stuff in the book. I think there’s different flavors of hip instability, but they do recommend basically for everyone really good form as you squat and do hinging motions. I follow their routines now and I spend a lot of time doing single leg RDLs. There’s also in the book, most of what they prescribe is individual to the athlete. Speaker 2 (21:44.28)The warm up is the same. There’s a 13 step warm up, includes a fair amount. Your hips will be like, the hips will notice the warm up. I don’t know, it takes 15 minutes maybe depending how careful you do it. But there’s a ton of like Romanian dead lifts. You know this move, the Romanian dead lift? It’s like the most basic form is you stand on one leg and then you keep your torso and the other leg in a line as you like. pitch forward and touch the floor in front of you. You’ve done something like this, I’m sure, a bazillion times. And you can do that with a weight, starting with a lightweight, et cetera. But that’s a hinging motion, right? Which will put a pretty good bunch of tension on the back of your hip. I’ll tell you, for me, they obsess about the form of how you do that. And I would tend to do it leaning a little too far forward, which means I wasn’t using the proper muscles in my hip. they have to have me like… Yes. Speaker 2 (22:42.018)I mean now I still as a little cue like when I get in the form for that I like try to really like shift back a little bit so that when I bend over and come back up I’m pulling on like the very back of my glute as opposed to recruiting other muscles from your hips to kind of cheat. Right. You know, this is so, it’s so interesting we’re talking about this, Henry, because I can say, you for me, I really like walking in nature and it feels good or doing my yoga poses sort of like that teacher you described where I could put both of my feet behind my head and do these crazy poses. But sometimes it’s like what we need is not, not to say our favorite thing or the other thing that we’re most drawn to, but it is the balance. And Dr. Suhas was an Ayurvedic teacher and doctor came on here and he was talking about how, he talks about in different contexts, weightlifting is really important to women for that cough of that groundedness to balance. we’re in our heads and Vata energy and it actually makes you feel strong so you can feel strong on the decisions you make in your life. And, know, in terms of what you’re talking about preventing injury and just feeling really stable. So maybe it’s, you if you’re like me and you’re like, well, I don’t know, like I never, I never go to these like weight, I don’t go to the gym and I don’t really lift, you know, I’m not drawn to weightlifting classes or whatever. But what you’re talking about the book is things that we can incorporate and you can make a huge difference in balance. Because if we’re just doing the things that we like, can, that’s, that’s probably why I started to feel some injuries from yoga because I wasn’t doing the stabilizing aspect. Yeah, that’s definitely a factor. I think they do. There aren’t a lot of things they recommend for everybody at this place, but like they do recommend there’s some kind of weights in everybody’s program, right? Like it’s just, it’s just maybe there are ways around it, but I think it’s, it’s, you know, your husband’s probably right, which I hate to say, you know what I mean? There’s all these studies and stuff, you know, like, Speaker 1 (24:40.226)Right? But then it’s like, again, you’re talking about patterns. It’s making space in our life and creating a new habit. It’s also I mean, I never thought I’d be a weightlifter. I was a runner and just like never had any interest in that. And then I started having like hip trouble basically. And and a friend of mine, she is a kinesiologist who runs a gym. And so I started going to her gym and it’s I don’t know, it’s 75 % women and like, which matters to me because like, it’s fun as hell to go there because everyone’s very supportive, right? Like, like, it’s just not it is not the like, it is technically a CrossFit gym. But I don’t know, they got that certification for whatever reason. the fact is, no

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