The Science of Longevity: Plaque Heart Scans, Cancer Screening, Glutathione & More with Dr. Julianna Lindsey [EP#1018]

 

 

This Week’s Episode Special Guest: Dr. Juliana Lindsay  

Summary: 

In this episode, Kimberly and Dr. Julianna Lindsey explore the interconnectedness of emotional and physical health, emphasizing the importance of stability in relationships and the impact of lifestyle choices on overall well-being. They discuss cardiovascular health, the significance of dietary choices, the effects of alcohol, and the role of supplements like glutathione and NAD in promoting longevity. The dialogue highlights the need for self-awareness and critical thinking in navigating health trends and misinformation.

 

About Dr, Juliana Lindsay  

Dr. Julianna Lindsey is Board Certified in Internal Medicine with additional training and certifications in anti-aging and regenerative medicine, functional and integrative medicine, lifestyle medicine, bioidentical hormone optimization, and peptide therapy. In addition to her clinical work, she has spent the past fifteen years serving executive leadership roles at Fortune-level companies. During this time, she observed the dysfunction of our health care system on a large scale, an experience that contributed to her motivation in establishing her Radiant Longevity clinic in Southlake, Texas, where she dedicates her life to serving people through personalized care and attention. She is the author of Radiant Longevity: A Physician’s Protocol for Living Your Best Life.

 

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Website: www.radiantlongevity.com

Book: Radiant Longevity: A Physician’s Protocol for Living Your Best Life.

 

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Episode Chapters

00:00 The Importance of Connection and Stability
05:02 Understanding Cardiovascular Health and Screening
10:05 Dietary Choices and Their Impact on Health
14:54 The Role of Alcohol in Health and Wellness
19:41 Exploring Supplements: Glutathione and NAD
24:57 Navigating Health Trends and Misinformation

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Transcript: 

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (00:01.23)
Hi, Juliana. I was going to say Dr. Lindsay, but I love in your book how you say to call you Juliana. Thank you so much for being here with us today. Calling in from Dallas, I believe.

Julianna Lindsey (00:13.333)
Yes, Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (00:15.502)
Love technology. You are asking me where I’m calling in from, which is currently California. And I do travel a lot between Hawaii and here. yeah, it’s just so great that we can have these conversations and feel that connection no matter where we are. Also books, you know, we’re both authors that we can really connect with people on the subject matter beyond your realm of

patients in Dallas, you can share your ideas in this form, which is really exciting, I think.

Julianna Lindsey (00:51.347)
It is wonderful and connection is so important.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (00:54.774)
You know, I really liked how you talked about such a variety of subject matters in your new book, Radiant Longevity, a Physician’s Protocol for Living Your Best Life. And I wrote a couple notes of some of the things that really stood out to me. And talking about connection, there’s a whole section in the book where you talk about a stable home life. And I really love that because we hear a lot about

social connections and community. And of course, that was really highlighted a lot, especially since COVID, when there was so much isolation. But sometimes I don’t think we talk enough about stability. And that’s true if someone’s married, if they have kids, or a lot of our listeners may be single. But this idea of stability and having less drama in our lives and more nervous system regulation. Can you talk

a little bit about why you called that out is so important in your book.

Julianna Lindsey (01:54.239)
not sure that there’s anything more important to our quality of life than having stability in our relationships. And you don’t have to have 50 friends. If you have one person that you know you can count on when the chips are down. And for me, I’m very fortunate to have a few. And my main person is my husband, but also my children. We have a…

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (02:03.041)
and

Julianna Lindsey (02:23.115)
drama free life. I just don’t have time or space for drama in my life. I don’t see any benefit to it and I try to avoid it like the plague. don’t and it is a plague and I hate it to see people online get wrapped up and trying to get reactions from people and you can just you can opt to just stay out of all that.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (02:34.424)
Yeah.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (02:47.394)
Right.

Julianna Lindsey (02:52.277)
But you do need people in your life that you can absolutely count on. And I want to be that person for other people as well.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (03:01.708)
Yeah. Well, I think it’s important to talk about that because when we talk about stress and we talk about cortisol levels and, I mean, there’s so many things in daily life that we can do. Like you said, we can create a lifestyle. Maybe some of us grew up and you talk about trauma in the book as well, but maybe we grew up in a home environment that did have a lot of drama or maybe we can start to be aware in our life now. I know for me, Juliana, I

can get really triggered by news. Like don’t really, I don’t watch the news, you know, I’ll read selectively, but also what’s coming into our feed. Like you said, there’s a lot of negativity online. So there’s a lot of things that we can do to create that stability. If we just start to be aware relationships, you know, what’s coming in, like our total environment. And that’s really important. You say stability, I also say more calmness, more peace. And that has an obvious, you know, effect.

on our physical health, our mental well-being, emotional well-being, spiritual well-being, and so on.

Julianna Lindsey (04:05.173)
And of course we can’t separate any of that. We can’t separate our emotional wellbeing from our physical wellbeing. It’s all so integrated. And we have be very intentional about the environment that we create around us and the events that we allow to go on in our atmosphere.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (04:10.584)
Yeah, it’s That’s right.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (04:23.842)
That’s right. And so if someone is listening to this and they say, wow, you know, there are, there is a lot of drama in my friendships or in my relationship. It’s something to be aware of and something that, you know, we have to look within ourselves and there’s so many different tools and, you know, resources available that it doesn’t have to stay like that. We can, you know, move in transition and it’s an important marker of health and wellbeing stability.

Julianna Lindsey (04:51.059)
Indeed, and just the ability to an open conversation, an open, authentic conversation with people is an art.

Sometimes crucial conversations need to occur, right? People, relationships are not problem free. And if you hit a bump in the road, it doesn’t have to mean there’s drama. know, people should be able to have open, honest, authentic relationships with one another without there being drama involved and just, you know, state the problem and figure out together collaboratively how you want to solve the problem. If it’s a relationship worth having.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (05:17.006)
Right.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (05:34.123)
Yes.

Julianna Lindsey (05:34.281)
that it’s worth it’s worth an open conversation.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (05:38.53)
Yeah, it’s true and honesty and coming from the heart.

Julianna Lindsey (05:42.963)
Yes. And I think you can feel your intention, right? If your intentions are good, if you want the best for that other person, if you want the best for your relationship, people know that.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (05:56.694)
Yes, that’s right. Well, and then only a few pages prior, and this is another note I had in completely switching gears, which again, I really love a holistic approach. And even a few pages earlier, you were talking about coronary artery calcium scan, the CAES, which my husband had done. And so again, there’s relationships, there’s the things that we can’t see with our physical eyes. And then, okay, there’s plaque.

Julianna Lindsey (06:13.493)
Yes.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (06:23.97)
There’s hardened, there’s calcified plaque. There’s the statistics that we know about cardiovascular incidences. We know that a lot of women and men, all different types of people have heart disease. Now, can you talk a little bit about this scan and this test? Because I remember talking to my husband about this a few months ago and it seems somewhat…

recent, it seems that not everybody knows about this. It feels like it could prevent a lot of cardiovascular incidences. I’m not sure if it’s always covered by insurance, but can you just give us more information about this test?

Julianna Lindsey (07:02.261)
love that you bring up that topic because cardiovascular disease is the number one killer of men and it is the number one killer of women. We hear lot about breast cancer and certainly we want to be aware of our breast cancer risk and keep up on those screenings and breast health but the statistically most likely event to lead to death is cardiovascular disease in women.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (07:10.189)
Wow.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (07:30.189)
Mmm.

Julianna Lindsey (07:31.681)
And it has historically been underdiagnosed and undertreated in a preventative fashion in women. So women are less likely to get put on cholesterol-lowering medications. They’re less likely to get put on blood pressure-lowering medications. The moment a man’s testosterone drops below 800, somebody wants to start giving him pellets.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (07:57.795)
Right.

Julianna Lindsey (07:58.431)
Women are allowed to go through periods of estrogen deprivation in perimenopause and menopause, which is so harmful to our cardiovascular health. And we need to raise awareness that that period of estrogen deprivation is when our disease risk of cardiovascular disease rises to equal that of men’s. So I very much try to avoid, want to avoid, and usually can periods of estrogen deprivation from my patients.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (08:06.382)
Mmm.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (08:27.896)
So you mean with hormone replacement.

Julianna Lindsey (08:28.577)
Yes, identical hormone optimization.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (08:32.94)
And then when would you recommend someone start taking this? Is it CACS you would say test? Yes.

Julianna Lindsey (08:39.669)
The coronary artery calcium score. So I don’t use the coronary artery calcium scoring anymore. So I use a CT angiogram. We specifically opt for the, it’s a branded name, the CLEERLY scan, C-L-E-E-R-L-Y. The CLEERLY scan is a CT angiogram. It is a CT scan, so there is some ionizing radiation involved, but it’s a low amount.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (08:48.494)
Julianna Lindsey (09:09.511)
The that scan is superior to the coronary artery calcium score because they use AI algorithms and special cameras to detect both soft plaque and calcified plaque. 30 % of heart attacks occur in people with a calcium score of zero. The calcium score is paid for by insurance. The the CLEARLY scan is typically not paid for by insurance so that

that is a barrier, it is absolutely the better test because soft plaque is kind of what gets us in trouble. That’s where the heart attacks happen, but it’s also, we see that as reversible, right? I try to see the glass is always half full. So I look at soft plaque as being a reversible condition and then with lipid lowering and other lifestyle measures, then we can help mitigate and lower people’s risk of

developing heart disease.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (10:11.278)
Well, thank you for clarifying that, Juliana. So around when would we consider getting this test and how often should you get this sort of test? And of course, you know, anyone listening to this or a loved one that, hmm, you you might want to inform about this because again, it doesn’t seem like a lot of the general masses know that these are available.

Julianna Lindsey (10:35.673)
That’s a great question. When to start screening? So we base our screening age on the risk factor of the patient in front of us. So if someone has a high LP little a, that’s a blood marker that you inherit from one of your parents. If you have a high LP little a, which everyone should get checked,

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (10:39.297)
Yes.

Julianna Lindsey (11:02.579)
then we absolutely begin screening much sooner than in someone who doesn’t have this high LP little a. LP little a is an independent risk factor for the development of cardiovascular disease. So if you have high LP little a, you are far more likely to have plaque in your arteries, making you more likely to have a heart attack or stroke or peripheral cardiovascular disease. So in the event that, let’s say a woman has

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (11:09.728)
Okay.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (11:25.07)
Mm.

Julianna Lindsey (11:31.883)
High LP little a I want to get her screened before the age of 50 I also want to get a man screen before the age of 50 with high LP little a if someone has had a history of prolonged like a familial high cholesterol condition then then we may start in early 40s also, so and Of course the family history is important in making these decisions as well, but

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (11:53.165)
Mmm.

Julianna Lindsey (12:01.087)
You can’t rely solely on family history. We like to add all these variables together and really risk stratify people. And it’s better to get screened earlier than later. We use that screening test to help us determine how aggressive we need to be in lipid lowering. you commonly hear stories from ladies that

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (12:04.16)
Right.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (12:23.574)
Right.

Julianna Lindsey (12:30.709)
people didn’t want to put them on lipid lowering drugs because this, that, or the other. It’s usually there. Somebody said their cholesterol wasn’t that high because they’re premenopausal or, know, women can, women form plaque prior to menopause under the right conditions. There are also women and men who have very high cholesterol levels. They are very rare who

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (12:50.606)
Mm.

Julianna Lindsey (13:00.309)
we find don’t have any plaque on their clearly scan. Now, if they don’t have plaque on their clearly scan, then we can often avoid pharmacologic therapy to lower their cholesterol. But those people are rare individuals. I would say maybe one in 500 people with high cholesterol will not be forming plaque. So they are very much the exception.

not the rule. And I’m afraid that lot of physicians without having these test results assume that that is a way more common condition than it actually is. People need to get screened and risk stratified. If you’re not forming plaque, fantastic. But if you’re already forming plaque in your arteries, we can see the arteries around the heart with the CLEARLY scan. We cannot see the arteries in the brain.

We don’t have good visual vision capability, but we absolutely use those heart arteries and the condition of those arteries as a surrogate marker for what’s going on in your brain. Our brain needs blood flow. Cognitive decline is an epidemic and it is a rising epidemic. We are very cognizant about our patients’ cognitive health. Just as much.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (14:00.0)
it.

Julianna Lindsey (14:27.321)
as we are about their cardiovascular health because they are highly intertwined.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (14:33.228)
Yes, thank you for explaining that. And then in another section, interrelated section of the book, where you talk about diet, and I love how you lead off with talking, you know, very similar dietary philosophy that we have here at Salona and Beauty Detox, lots of green vegetables, lots of nuts. And also a good friend of mine who’s been on this podcast many times, Dan Buettner, who discovered the blue zones, which you referenced in your book. you know, just having this

Julianna Lindsey (14:57.846)
Yes.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (15:00.046)
whole food based diet and active lifestyle and so on. But I bring this up on the heels of us talking about the calcium scans because it gets really confusing for people, Juliana, as you know, where, you know, for a while it was sort of the general consensus about avoiding eating a lot of red meat. And then there’s sort of different dialogues being put out, especially in social media about, know, cholesterol isn’t really bad. And then there’s the rise of certain diets like the carnivore diet.

lots of meat. And then I’ve heard people have even written into me saying, you know, I tried some of these diets and my plaque did go up, even though a lot of people that are pushing these very high meat diets are saying, well, no, it’s not actually going to raise your cholesterol. It just gets very confusing for people when there’s so many people talking about different ways of eating, you know.

I don’t know, it sort of blows my mind. And then there’s these, again, these out of just certain studies, which can be extrapolated, they’re studying human populations, like the blue zones and seeing how a lot of these cultures are getting enough protein, but they’re also eating a large 90 % and over plant based. So can you speak a little bit in your work as a physician and your monitoring all these different patients and seeing what’s going on with plaque and just that relationship with eating a high red meat?

animal protein diet in relation to what we’re talking about here.

Julianna Lindsey (16:32.595)
I can tell you with certainty that most people who are eating a high fat diet are going to have higher cholesterol levels. Now people’s bodies respond differently.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (16:42.978)
Thank you. Yeah. Yes. But it sounds obvious and I’m sorry to bring it up this way, but it’s not when you’re listening to all these different dialogues, doctor. It sort of gets sort of bananas out there.

Julianna Lindsey (16:59.285)
Well, I would advise people to, if they hear something on social media, take that to your actual physician with hopefully with whom you have a relationship and then ask him or her questions about that. And please let it, first of all, let it pass the filter of common sense. Has, has humankind evolved eating solely meat? It’s

It doesn’t pass the common sense filter to me.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (17:31.098)
It doesn’t pass the common sense, but unfortunately, doctor, there are doctors like these carnivore MDs out there that are doctors that are also telling people some of these ways of eating, which I think can potentially cause a lot of harm and can certainly confuse a lot of people. So we’re moving away from fiber and anti-inflammatory antioxidant rich foods. And now there just becomes this huge focus on protein, protein, protein more and more.

animal foods.

Julianna Lindsey (18:02.645)
Well, it’s the wrong direction. And if you look at the human microbiome, and we are in our infancy in knowing the power of our microbiome, but we do know that 70 % of our immune system lies in the lining of our gut. Those microorganisms that are in the lining of our gut control so much of what happens in our body.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (18:13.248)
Yes.

Julianna Lindsey (18:26.651)
and those to have a healthy microbiome, you need those soluble and insoluble fibers that you can only get from non-meat sources.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (18:38.71)
Yeah. And you were talking about, you know, opening up pathways to the brain, to the heart. There’s a clogging effect. Like you said, common sense that happens when we’re eating really dense, fatty, just, I can’t say it in words, but dense foods. Now, and then when we’re focusing on eating so much of those foods and filling our plate with that, then obviously there’s going to be less room for the fiber rich.

Julianna Lindsey (18:45.301)
Yes.

Julianna Lindsey (18:56.682)
Yes.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (19:06.346)
foods, it just becomes less of a focus, unfortunately, in a lot of these diets.

Julianna Lindsey (19:12.255)
And if people have a, if they have doubt about that, I would just challenge them to go get your lipid profile checked regularly. Like we check our patients lipid profiles every 90 days because people will go on, you know, they’ll go off on tangents and I can, I can generally tell when they’ve gone off on a tangent and, and they’re, they’re eating it just like red meat every single day. I’m not against red meat. I eat meat myself.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (19:23.842)
Wow.

Julianna Lindsey (19:42.081)
I also eat a lot of fruits and vegetables. So balance in all things.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (19:47.444)
Yes. Yeah, I can say, I can share and I’ve talked about a little bit on here that actually was a personal experience with my husband. He eats meat, me and the kids are plant based, but he went on a full carnivore diet. And was a day where he was eating his chopped raw liver. And my older son looked at it he said, mama, would you eat papa’s food for a million dollars?

And I said, no, he’s like two million. We were trying to come up with a number, but he does get regular blood work and he saw the actual, you know, the impact in his blood work. And I’m happy to say he’s gone back to eating a lot of fiber again. because yeah, to your point when you could measure and you can actually see that difference, instead of just theoretically or just because you want to look the way someone looks on social media and you think it’s because you need more and more and more.

of protein and to build yourself up.

Julianna Lindsey (20:47.553)
Also, we have no idea what those people on social media who look like they look, what they’re doing. You know, we don’t really know what they’re eating. We don’t know what kind of hormones they’re putting in their body. They could be doing any number of unhealthy things. And I can tell you that I see a lot of 50-year-old men walking around, you know, all puffed up, who look horribly unhealthy. I know that they…

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (21:02.091)
Right.

Julianna Lindsey (21:16.971)
They probably perceive themselves as being healthy, but you can spot somebody who’s on too much testosterone and growth hormone, and it is a bad situation for their health.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (21:28.106)
Right. I imagine long-term, especially taking growth hormone.

Julianna Lindsey (21:32.255)
Well, short and long term. I mean, those people tend to die early. Think about like Rich Piana, for instance. He was a internet craze. And then there’s like the liver king. know, all these people doing these crazy things. And it turns out, I guess the liver king wasn’t actually doing what he said he was doing. And then of course, Rich Piana died when he was relatively young. So.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (21:44.27)
Right.

Julianna Lindsey (21:58.933)
I don’t think we need to be taking advice from people like that. And you have to always question people’s ulterior motives. What kind of secondary gain are they on social media to get? So the way to get likes and reactions and conversations on social media is to be extreme. The way to live a balanced, healthy life is to avoid extremes.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (22:24.878)
Right, centered. And you mentioned that in your protocols overall for eating is to eat less, right? Because we are able to digest more, our bodies utilize more nutrients when we’re not constantly overloading. And I know, know, Dr. you as well as many physicians, there’s a section where you did talk about semi-glutides and…

Julianna Lindsey (22:26.815)
Yes.

Julianna Lindsey (22:34.582)
Yes.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (22:51.246)
and know, Zempik and you know, the crazes out there. And on one hand, people are eating less and they are dropping weight. I wonder, and I don’t know the answer and I haven’t taken, you know, I’m not a physician that’s taking a super deep dive on this, but I wonder doctor about long-term though. And

people haven’t learned to eat healthy when they’re taking these drugs, or maybe they’re, you when they get off and then they still have to learn to eat healthy. What do you think about these other aspects? And I know primarily, you know, you’re seeing numbers improve, you’re seeing people eat a lot less. We know obesity is a killer, but long-term effects and then potentially not really healing food cravings on a deeper level.

Julianna Lindsey (23:35.969)
That’s a great point. And there’s a right way to do things and there’s a wrong way to do things. The right way is usually not the path of least resistance. So if you’re getting your GLP-1 injections like the semaglutide, terzepotide, know, Ozon, Manjaro drugs, if you’re getting those from a med spa or your dentist or I kid you not, your hairdresser,

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (23:55.404)
Yeah.

Julianna Lindsey (24:05.377)
or just randomly online and you’re not getting the counseling around your diet, your body composition is not being monitored, somebody is not helping you watch your protein intake, then you’re probably not gonna have a good outcome with those drugs. You may weigh less at the end of your course of therapy.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (24:08.238)
your hairdresser.

Julianna Lindsey (24:35.083)
but you also may end up unhealthy because you have a bunch of muscle mass that is so common. I, that’s the, that’s the root cause behind the, the ozempic faces. The, the, this gaunt unhealthy look is people, they eat less. Sure. They lose weight. Sure. But a lot of times they just end up eating carbs because carbs are easily digestible.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (24:38.542)
Mm.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (24:48.494)
I hear that a lot. Yeah.

Julianna Lindsey (25:05.189)
And it’s more palatable when you’re on those drugs to eat simple carbs because they do slow your digestive time. But it’s the wrong way to go. And when we give those drugs to our patients and we use the lowest effective dose, so we try to maintain a micro dosing strategy for people who do not have diabetes for these GLP ones. And they are powerfully positive drugs when handled appropriately.

The lowest effective dose is the best dose. So a lot of times we stay below the pharmaceutical recommended starting dose on those drugs and help people achieve their goal weight and maintain that goal weight in a healthy, reliable fashion.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (25:57.71)
And when you say, doctor, until more evidence comes out, if someone’s benefiting, it, are protocols where it’s benefiting them and it’s a micro dose, so they would stay on indefinitely? Or do you have patients where it’s sort of stabilizing the situation and there is some sort of end date in mind to get off them?

Julianna Lindsey (26:21.419)
So everything in our practice depends on the patient. So we have extensive genetic testing on all of our patients. We do whole genome sequencing. So we know what genes they have that are predisposing them to insulin resistance, cardiovascular disease, dementia. Even if they don’t have diabetes, but they have some of these other really serious risk factors, then

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (26:23.532)
I think it’s nuanced. Yeah.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (26:40.332)
Mmm.

Julianna Lindsey (26:47.709)
sometimes we will recommend continuing to micro dose in the right situation, these GLP-1s. That’s not always the case. If someone is not, if they’re not predisposed to insulin resistance, if they’ve dialed in their diet and lifestyle, they typically don’t need to stay on these drugs. When they’re really dialed in and they know what to do and they’ve formed a habit around it, they typically don’t need to stay on these drugs. But some people we keep on those.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (27:06.051)
Mm.

Julianna Lindsey (27:17.185)
for the metabolic benefit and risk mitigation for other diseases like dementia prevention, cardiovascular disease, and even kidney disease prevention.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (27:27.386)
Mm-hmm. And there’s a whole section in your book where I mean it just kind of goes around because there’s again so many different topics that do weave together of course speaking about dementia There’s a lot of research about how important sleep is you talk about that and sleep hygiene It allows your about your brain that periods to detox itself. What also do you feel Julianna about creatine because we hear You research that it could be potentially really good for brain health

Julianna Lindsey (27:56.331)
Sure, I’ve used creatine for many, many years. There’s a lot of data around creatine. I think it’s having a moment right now in the meeting, which is good, I think. But creatine is a powerful part of your armamentarium for good health can be. If you’re someone who exercises, lifts weights, even just for cognitive health. We use it sometimes for people.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (28:00.0)
Mmm.

Julianna Lindsey (28:25.057)
purely for cognitive health.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (28:27.576)
Do you think it needs to be cycled or is it something that can be potentially taken regularly long term?

Julianna Lindsey (28:34.729)
I take creatine monohydrate every day, but I’m also exercising on a daily basis. So.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (28:37.294)
Mm.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (28:41.388)
And what if someone isn’t exercising regularly, which of course, hopefully we hope them to be.

Julianna Lindsey (28:47.457)
Well, if they’re not exercising regularly, they probably don’t need the five grams a day. I’m not convinced that anyone needs more than five grams of creatine a day. A lot of people can get by with one or two grams of creatine. And certainly if you’re experiencing bloating with creatine, you’re taking too much creatine.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (28:56.102)
yeah.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (29:05.413)
So I did notice in the book in many sections, said, okay, again, Juliana is not a fan of alcohol in any way, which is obvious for many reasons. And I think we’re seeing a, you know, I was talking to someone about this the other day. said, do you really, do you think it’s in LA and wellness centric places where alcohol is going down? Or do you think it’s on a national and potentially international level?

Julianna Lindsey (29:12.305)
I’m not.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (29:31.18)
because I’ve read reports about alcohol dropping as people are monitoring, they’re wearing all these trackers. There’s a lot of information being put out about alcohol being detrimental to gut health. do you think, Juliana? Do you think it’s sort of happening on a collective level and not just certain pockets where alcohol’s dropping?

Julianna Lindsey (29:52.545)
I think it’s a societal shift. Younger people are not drinking as much. They’re replacing alcohol with cannabis, THC, edibles, or marijuana in some other form. So I don’t think that we’re getting necessarily away from the substance abuse.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (29:56.364)
Yeah.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (30:09.816)
Yeah.

Julianna Lindsey (30:15.253)
But I do believe alcohol is more harmful. Alcohol is, you cannot make an argument that alcohol is not neurotoxic. Alcohol is a neurotoxin. And people who have concerns about their cognitive health, it’s just a bad idea to be drinking alcohol on a regular basis.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (30:35.116)
Well, and I would say even irregularly, I don’t drink, although, you know, I have had periods of partying, admittedly, around college and so on. But currently not. But a couple of weeks ago, I went to dinner with my husband and another couple, and there was some organic wine on the menu. And, you know, we don’t leave in the evenings very much, to be honest.

know, Julianna, I in the mountains and it just feels like it’s big. Anyways, the point is it just felt like this special night out. So I said, I’ll have an organic glass of wine, biodynamic, you know, whatever from this California vineyard. And I drank it. was, you know, fun at the time. And then by one or two in the morning, I was up. I couldn’t go back to sleep. It was horrible. And I said, this is the reason I don’t drink on top of all that I know how it impacts on health.

Can you talk a little bit about what’s going on there, the adrenaline or why it keeps us up? I know for me, I experienced that with wine. Like why is it so disruptive?

Julianna Lindsey (31:42.273)
I do love that people are more into their wearables now because there’s a low level of self-awareness for most of us, myself included, right? Unless we’re tracking it, it’s hard to really quantify what we’re doing to our bodies and the effects of things that we put in our bodies and behaviors that we have. So once people put their aura ring on, I usually recommend the aura ring, but any good tracker works.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (31:46.146)
Yeah.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (32:09.742)
There’s also a boop, yeah.

Julianna Lindsey (32:12.545)
Once they see what alcohol does to their sleep and it absolutely disrupts your sleep architecture People feel like it helps them get to sleep faster, which may be true for some people. don’t I don’t deny that but Your deep sleep is destroyed Your ability to stay asleep is also usually highly impacted as you observed so once people see that it’s it’s not a hard argument to make for them to

to cut down or out alcohol because you eventually just realize it’s not really worth it.

Now, I also don’t vilify people for having a glass of alcohol a few times a week. If that is important to you, if that’s important for your kind of social connections, as long as you don’t have risk factors around that, then I think it can be done in a healthier way. Earlier in the day is probably healthier, like an earlier dinner rather than later dinner. And starting to drink the wine after you have food on your stomach is also an important way to

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (32:49.154)
Right.

Julianna Lindsey (33:19.073)
help manage that impact on sleep.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (33:22.27)
Yeah, yeah, exactly. just, there’s just, it’s doing something to your body, obviously, like hormonally and just the effects of waking you up. And it’s powerful once it’s in there, it’s really disruptive. And I think maybe there’s times, you know, there’s times in my life where I was doing it so much that I was, maybe I was having so many drinks I would sleep through, but it’s really interesting. Like you said, with awareness, you start to realize how pulled off center.

We are, I think the healthier we become, there’s a sensitivity, there’s more awareness. When something comes that’s imbalancing, it just becomes more pronounced, which is probably a really good thing. so organic, biodynamic or not, it’s still alcohol. I mean, you know, this is why I think we’re seeing such a rise in non-alcoholic beer, athletic brewery, which I think is the number one selling beer at Whole Foods.

Julianna Lindsey (34:00.555)
Yes.

Julianna Lindsey (34:07.691)
True.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (34:17.838)
I heard it doesn’t have any alcohol in it, but it gives you that sort of feeling like you’re having a drink and all the mocktails out there. So, you know, it’s good we talk about this because again, we don’t want to, you know, vilify and say you could never have it. But I always say if you really want it, then choose carefully and enjoy it when you do. Otherwise, when you don’t need it, it’s certainly something worth skipping.

Julianna Lindsey (34:42.387)
agree it’s just important that we’re always intentional in our behaviors and actions.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (34:47.342)
Yes. Okay. So another aspect in your book that I thought was really interesting and that I have dabbled with a bit myself is glutathione. And we know it’s in food and we can absorb it to an extent. I’ve had it in an IV form and I know there’s oral glutathione and then there’s liposomal. know there’s sometimes maybe the oral isn’t absorbed so much. Can you talk about it?

Julianna Lindsey (34:56.619)
yes.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (35:16.782)
Can you just talk about it first, Juliana? Why you recommend it? The forms that you recommend, benefits.

Julianna Lindsey (35:18.721)
Thank

Julianna Lindsey (35:24.897)
So I’m not very convinced that oral glutathione is effective. I think the most effective way to boost your glutathione levels, if you’re looking supplementation-wise, is to take in acetylcysteine. So it’s that sulfur on the cysteine, and cysteine is one of those amino acids in that peptide called glutathione. Glutathione’s a peptide in our body.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (35:31.214)
Right.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (35:41.176)
Mmm.

Julianna Lindsey (35:54.405)
and it’s our body’s most important intracellular antioxidant. So it does play an important role in our body to neutralize those reactive oxygen species, those free radicals. So maintaining a good healthy level of glutathione is important for our long-term health, particularly our liver health, kidney health, and our central nervous system.

So it’s really important in those areas. If you pursue oral supplementation, then the inocetylcysteine is the better way to do that, in my opinion. I do take intravenous glutathione myself, and we offer intravenous glutathione on a monthly basis to all of our patients. It’s not compulsory, but we do give it IV quite often.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (36:33.826)
Okay.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (36:44.632)
Yeah.

Julianna Lindsey (36:50.623)
recommended every four to six weeks for our patient panel.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (36:54.401)
wow, so you’re recommending to get it that often because even when you get it through IV, it needs to be maintained.

Julianna Lindsey (37:03.231)
Yes, and we know the more birthdays we have, the lower our intracellular levels of glutathione are. So somebody who’s had more birthdays is gonna benefit even more from that intravenous glutathione. But it’s great for your skin too, and just, I mean, it’s a really nice health boosting benefit. Now you can overdo anything, I’m sure.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (37:32.218)
Back to the extremes of our culture. You know, I did it in an IV doctor with NAD, which you mentioned in the book as well. And we did it, it really did help us, I think, get over COVID when we got it. And then I noticed for me, I felt really clear and I just felt really good.

Julianna Lindsey (37:50.357)
Yeah.

It’s not, it’s, now this is pretty deep into the science, but it’s not a great idea to get, to give glutathione and NAD together. You’re losing some of your effectiveness from one or both of those things. yeah, more so from the NAD than the glutathione. But we, we, we separate those out and we aggressively cancer screen our patients before we give intravenous NAD. So.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (38:00.394)
Okay.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (38:05.345)
Is that true?

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (38:09.485)
Huh.

Julianna Lindsey (38:21.899)
people in our clinic don’t get intravenous NAD unless they’ve had a thorough cancer screening. people are really getting it from a med spot. I think it’s a bad idea.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (38:27.992)
This is a

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (38:32.91)
So we did it, we had a gallery blood test for cancer that we did before getting the NAD. What do you think about that blood test?

Julianna Lindsey (38:40.831)
Yeah.

Well, I think that it is an advancement in cancer screening. I think that that is certainly not a perfect test by any means. Some of the sensitivities on those cancers that they detect is no better than a coin flip. So we have a 50 % sensitivity. We do not rely on that blood test alone.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (39:03.629)
Mmm.

Julianna Lindsey (39:11.329)
cancer screen most often with the whole body MRI, specifically the Prunevo scan. We only use the Prunevo scan because it uses AI algorithms in the interpretation of those scans and the false positive rate is very low on that scan. if you’re just getting a, I don’t recommend whole body CT scanning, that’s a lot of ionizing radiation.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (39:18.722)
Got it.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (39:32.984)
Got it.

Julianna Lindsey (39:40.383)
We don’t recommend that at all. And without those thoroughly vetted AI algorithms, then people can get false positives, which are very scary for people and can lead to over testing, over treatment, obviously complications from testing when it’s unnecessary.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (39:53.4)
Sure.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (40:05.226)
And the reason you would want to screen for cancer before getting NAD is taking it could actually stimulate the cancers.

Julianna Lindsey (40:06.24)
you

Julianna Lindsey (40:13.589)
Well, we know NAD is good fuel for cells. So, that’s any cells. And if you have bad cells in your body, they’re gonna especially react to that NAD more aggressively.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (40:17.622)
Right. But there were bad cells. Potentially.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (40:28.852)
that is such a great point to bring up because we were working with a physician, but there is a lot of NAD in med spas that you can just walk in.

Julianna Lindsey (40:40.779)
Yeah. It’s a moneymaker for people, right? But people need to be educated and you have to protect yourself. And you made a point earlier about there are doctors who say all these crazy things. Well, definitely are. Not all doctors are educated in true longevity science. You unfortunately have

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (40:44.96)
Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (40:57.643)
Yeah, definitely.

Julianna Lindsey (41:09.781)
people out there just selling things. So try to figure out what somebody has to gain about that. And also I would caution people that when you hear somebody say they’re doctor this, that, or the other, you really need to look and figure out what kind of doctor that person is. Like they’ll present themselves as a medical expert, but I know they’re doctors on social media and they certainly have doctoral degrees.

but they’re pharmacists, they’re audiologists, they may have a doctorate in ministry, which you can get online. It’s the Wild West. So.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (41:49.614)
Right. Or they might be a chiropractor talking about something that is a different field. Right. Well, and then quickly, doctor, I could pick your brain forever. but just to wrap that up, glutathione with NAD have molecules or structures that could interfere. So if someone was listening and they did go to their doctor, you would, you know, ideally take them on different days.

Julianna Lindsey (41:53.569)
100 percent yes yes

Julianna Lindsey (42:16.169)
on different days and the glutathione first. I like for people to have a good therapeutic level of glutathione in their system before we even start giving them any intravenous NAD. And not everybody is a great candidate for intravenous NAD either, so.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (42:29.368)
Got it.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (42:34.368)
Yeah. Well, this is so amazing, Juliana. I absolutely love your depth of knowledge. Your book, again, for everyone, Radiant Longevity, A Physician’s Protocol for Living Your Best Life, has so many topics that interlink like a spider’s web. So it doesn’t feel like disparate topics, but rather just like this conversation, we’re talking about…

you know, plaque and then then we’re talking about a whole food diet and then how alcohol and that’s related to the brain and alcohol and it really does relate, which I think is a really powerful approach, obviously, versus just over specialization or fragmentation in looking at our wellness. So where can we get your book? Dr. Giulietta, where can we learn more about you? And yeah, connect.

Julianna Lindsey (43:28.629)
Well, thank you for having me here. It’s been wonderful speaking with you. We have a website for the practice. It’s radiantlongivity.com. I don’t have a lot of specific information on there, but you can certainly get an idea about what we do here. The book, Radiant Longevity, is available at any high quality bookseller. So Amazon, Barnes & Noble, probably your local bookseller will have Radiant Longevity.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (43:48.974)
Perfect.

Julianna Lindsey (43:56.193)
I will have that out on Audible. I hope to have that out in November.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (43:58.83)
amazing. Being an author myself, know putting aside the time to read the audio book, it’s one thing to write, know, I’m writing a three in the morning, but actually getting in the studio and record the book is a whole other thing. So congratulations and thank you so much, Juliana, for being with us today, sharing your wisdom from your heart. And we will link directly everyone in the show notes at mysaloon.com to direct links.

Julianna Lindsey (44:09.654)
Thank

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (44:28.46)
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