3 Powerful Life Lessons we can Learn from Bees with Jimmy Trujillo [Episode #815]

This week’s topic is: 3 Powerful Life Lessons we can Learn from Bees with Jimmy Trujillo

I am so excited to have my very special guest, Jimmy Trujillo, who has been beekeeping on Kaua’i since 2007 and is a founding member of the Kaua’i Beekeeper’s Association (KBEE). Listen in as Jimmy shares the ways in which bees communicate and build harmony among their environment, the greater collective among their community, and what we can learn from their sound frequency and vibrational energy.

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• Ways in which bees communicate…
• Conflict versus harmony among the bee environment…
• What the greater collective looks like in the bee community…
• We discuss the sound frequency and vibrational energy of bees…

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About Jimmy Trujillo

Jimmy has been beekeeping on Kaua’i since 2007 and is a founding member of the Kaua’i Beekeeper’s Association (KBEE). He has served as Secretary, Treasurer and President on the KBEE Executive Council and has taught apiary classes through Kaua’i Community College’s Office of Continuing Education & Training.

Mr Trujillo works with apiarists, farmers, homeowners, property managers as well as new bees and wanna-bees providing guidance, instructions and consultation on managing apiaries, removing feral colonies and preventing future reinfestation of unwanted beehives.

The youngest of four children, Jimmy was born and raised in California
by his parents, former migrant farmworkers, who settled in the Santa Clara valley prior to silicon, shopping malls and expressways. He migrated to the Garden Isle with his wife, Maria in 1999 and manages BeeKindApiaries and helps with turning the compost at Makaleha Farms in Kapahi.

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Transcript:

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Kimberly: 00:00 Namaste loves and welcome back to our Monday interview show. I am so excited to have Jimmy Trujillo back on our show this week. He has been on before. He is our beloved family here in Hawaii, our ohana. He is our family beekeeper. He is helping us to establish this farm here. He is brilliant on many subjects. He has a radio show here in Hawaii, and today we’re going to be talking about three lessons that humans can learn from bees. Bees are mystical creatures. They seem to inhabit a universe within our world. And having dabbled a little bit in beekeeping now myself, I have a bee suit. I go into the hives sometimes. I have to say that I am astounded and in awe of the bees, and so Jimmy, who spends a lot of time with the bees, is going to share with us these incredible lessons that these incredible creatures can teach us. And so I am very excited to share today’s conversation with you.

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Interview with Jimmy Trujillo

Kimberly: 00:02 Aloha. Jimmy, thank you so much for coming back on the show. It’s been a little while since you’ve come on.

Jimmy: 00:17 It has time passes so quickly.

Kimberly: 00:19 I was wanting to have you back and to share more about your amazing wisdom in your insight universes amongst universes,

Jimmy: 00:30 The hive,

Kimberly: 00:31 The hive,

Jimmy: 00:31 The hive, and the hive mind, the

Kimberly: 00:33 B. And for those of you that did not hear our last show with Uncle Jimmy, we will link to it in the show notes. Jimmy is our beloved Ohana, our family here in Hawaii. He is our beekeeper. He’s our dear friend, he’s uncle to the boys and all of us, and he has taught us so much. So once again, Jimmy, thank you for coming on and just thank you for being our ohana here.

Jimmy: 00:59 Well, thank you Kimberly and you, John, and the boys. It’s really nice to be welcomed and to have an opportunity to talk more about the bees. Really the, I don’t want to say the main focus, but our relationship revolves around these bees and we’re learning a lot from them.

Kimberly: 01:17 We’re learning a lot. And I have just grown so much in my appreciation of bees since it was one of the first things we did when we came here to Hawaii and we bought this farm. It was, Hey, we want to have bees. We want to start to create. And so I remember Jimmy, you said, well, how many hides do you want? And I made up this 11 because it just seemed like a really nice

Jimmy: 01:42 Round number

Kimberly: 01:42 Number. It was an angel number, double ones. And so now we’ve been on this journey. We’ve dealt with some wild hives that have come in several. You’ve integrated wild hives. We moved them ethically and with love into our hives because we didn’t want to just get rid of them.

Jimmy: 02:01 They had another opportunity to do that. Again,

Kimberly: 02:05 There’s just so much abundance with the bees. Yeah.

Jimmy: 02:09 The space is buzzing.

Kimberly: 02:10 It’s buzzing. They’re alive. We have abundance of honey. We have abundance of this bounty, which as a family we consume every day. I know you consume honey too, Jimmy, big honey. Consumers. I think it’s this perfect nectar mix. I’m

Jimmy: 02:25 Lucky. I feel so blessed to have that if you will, kind of as a daily supplement, a tonic, and to use it in a lot of, I just had, if you will, a wound management session right before, and I just have a sow that I, yeah, yeah. A little mixture of bees, wax, honey and some other essential oils. Some teacher oil and vitamin E.

Kimberly: 02:49 There’s some things I think we know, and there’s some things I don’t think we know. So you can measure, oh, there’s enzymes in honey and this and that, the minerals. But it’s the energy of it. It’s the bees taking from all the plants and the flowers and the land. It feels, I don’t know, you can’t even put into words.

Jimmy: 03:10 Yeah. There is an alchemy there. That is alchemy. I love it. Such, I mean, it is an expression of God, of perfection in nature. And it’s replicated so much that we get to enjoy the abundance of it and

Kimberly: 03:24 Consume it, put it in

3 Things that Jimmy has learned from the Bees

Jimmy: 03:27 And share it. Be able to make it available to others. And that’s one of the things I appreciate so much about the bees and their ability to kind have, and you asked me, what are three things that you could share about learning from the bees? And I think that was a challenge just to kind think of the three things they’re so well adept at. And I want to say all three of these things integrate into this kind of, what I would just say, kind of the resilience of their being, no pun intended. But they do such a wonderful job of being an existing, and they lay out those three things that I was going to try to talk about. One, the change that a hive experiences and the change that the individuals of that hive each contributing member goes through in its lifetime.

Kimberly: 04:27 So you mean change over the span of the hive and within the individual B.

Jimmy: 04:33 Yes. Yes. And all of them interrelate. And it kind of relates to the ability to change, to pivot, and to be able to get away from the individual and migrate towards that collective, the collaborative, the hive, the community. This idea of it’s not about me, it’s about what I can do to contribute to this super cell, this super organism, this hive. And this hive is incredible just because of, its back to the, no pun intended. It’s being, its ability to adapt change. And then because of those two things leading to the third of each phase of its life, each role that it plays, it does that job and that job only. And then it evolves or then it continues and it morphs. It does. Its change, but its purpose is to

Kimberly: 05:43 Plays role

Jimmy: 05:44 And just to know its purpose. It’s here to make this hive survive. It’s here to make this hive thrive. It’s here to bring this hive alive. And that’s the magic, those three things. When it happens, it just continues to live in your building for as long as it wants to. And then when conditions aren’t in that same kind of perfection, it leaves. And that’s what happened in that one section of your guest house. And we’re letting listeners in on some more details of your wa lua wonderland. But it is incredible. A hive leaves and a hive enters from another portion of the house has received this energy. Yes. That’s so abundant here.

Kimberly: 06:35 Well, let’s pause for a second. When you say, one of the things you said that really struck me, Jimmy, when you were saying they’re just playing their part, there’s sort of no ego. There’s no saying, oh, I’m the drone. You are the queen bee. And I literally was reading a essay today by Yogananda, and he was talking about how we’re here on earth no matter if you are scrubbing floors all day, or you’re the president of a country, we’re ultimately playing a role. And what he said was, we’re meant to play our part. Well, no matter what it is with non-attachment, we’re not thinking we’re better or we’re worse than anyone else.

Jimmy: 07:18 We’re just, woe is me. I’m just a lonely drone. Right,

Kimberly: 07:22 Right. So we’re living, and as long as we stay really present and we put our efforts into this present moment, which again goes back to the bees, just be

Jimmy: 07:35 Here now, living life

Kimberly: 07:36 Here. Yeah, be here now. Then we fulfill that purpose and we feel fulfilled because it doesn’t matter. We know this material. And not to go too much on this tangent, but it’s really not about the things that society says matter, the money, the titles. You can have those things and still feel very empty. So teach us to me about the bees, because when I went in there with you with a B suit, it really did feel like another universe, which doesn’t universe. So they’re in there and they’re not thinking, they’re just being in their role.

Jimmy: 08:10 Right. And their communications is kind of almost effortless. I mean, their ability to,

Kimberly: 08:17 How do they communicate

Ways in which bees communicate

Jimmy: 08:18 Through smell their pheromones that are released. The queen’s pheromone is very strong and distinct. And the other worker bees, the nurse bees, those closest to the clean will kind of share or spread that pheromone out. That’s a good indicator to the other bees in the hive. Like, Hey, all is good. It smells like, mom, let’s keep doing our thing. Oh,

Kimberly: 08:39 It’s smelling. It is not movement or dancing.

Jimmy: 08:41 Well, and so that’s another, it is their sense of smell and their pheromones, their ability to move the commonly known waggle dance for bees that come in from the field and let the other bees know which direction to, and they can taste, they can see smell. What are those field bees bringing back in? Oh, it’s pollen. Oh, it’s nectar. And they know how that field bee, where’s that resource going? So other bees will greet them and then either have them go into the part of the hive where they’re storing honey or where they’re storing pollen, or where they need to go to unload whatever they brought in for the day. Once they’re done with their first task, they’re unloading and then they’re back at it again. Wow. And so they talk to each other. They taste each other, they smell each other, they see each other. They feel each other. Their ability to create through that vibration and the frequency that they control in their little microenvironment, it’s really incredible how they are and do what they need to do in order to survive

Kimberly: 09:52 And contribute. So let me ask you a question, Jimmy. You see sometimes in Africa where I was able to go to a lot of, I think I did, I was very blessed. I was there for months and I think I did 17 or 18 safaris. Oh, wow. And you see where there’s a younger or up and coming male lion, and there’s a little bit of conflict and Oh, I’m going to take over this pride. Or there’s just this butting of head sometimes at the watering holes,

Jimmy: 10:23 And if you will, in life is that kind of model of the strong survives and it’s the law of the jungle and who is

Kimberly: 10:33 Competition, which there’s different theories. Now I’ve read that someone said, oh, well, Charles Darwin, it was actually not actually true. Actually, the foundation of nature is cooperation anyways, but we know there is butting of heads. Sure. Does that happen within the bees or is it harmonious?

Conflict versus harmony among the bee environment

Jimmy: 10:53 Well, there are times when there is kind of lethal conflict in the high

Kimberly: 10:59 Who is fighting? Yeah.

Jimmy: 11:00 Well, sometimes there’ll be bees from not that colony that what it is is bees from another colony will raid a weaker hive. If there’s a hive that’s like dwindling. If there’s a hive, the queen has failed and they’re in the process of rebuilding a queen, or they’re not going to be able to regenerate a new queen cell. And that hive would be potentially lost. And so another hive might come in and start to take those resources. And at that point, it would be like a conflict. Or in that same scenario, if the swarm happened and there were two or three queen cells left in the, if you will, remnant hive that is left in the cavity, that if you will issue that swarm. Don’t want to get too far in the weeds about that, but that swarm cell that hosts the new queen, when she emerges, she goes and looks for other queen cells and she will, the emerge queen will open up that cell and sting it.

Kimberly: 12:11 Oh, interesting.

Jimmy: 12:12 And the queen will create that if you will, battle royale and kill her sisters to be the only queen in that hive. Oh, wow. Yeah. And that’s about the only time that usually happens. Sometimes a mother-daughter queen will have issues if there’s a queen cell that emerges and the mother is still alive. She might, but she also might survive. Let her mom survive until she just dwindles and they’ll share that pheromone for a long time. It’s the same genetic, same stock.

Kimberly: 12:46 Yeah. So it’s not a hundred percent, but it’s fairly close to harmony. There’s this,

Jimmy: 12:51 It is the other time is, if you will, back to that old Harry Belafonte song, women Smarter Men, smart women smarter. The drones have fulfilled their usefulness to the hive after the spring and early summer mating season. And then once the mating season is over and healthy queens are abundant, the drones are then kind of issued, if you will. They’re walking papers at certain times of the year. The guard bees at the hive, again, all females, all daughters of the Queen will prevent males from entering the hive because they have no business there. There’s nothing that they’re contributing. They’ve already had their opportunity to do so. Isn’t that funny? So

Kimberly: 13:42 They get cast

Jimmy: 13:43 Out. They get cast out. They’ll actually get dragged out of the hive by the female entry, the century bees, if you will, the Lady guard bees that are at holding the entrance to just sisters that have resources, brothers that have nothing to contribute. Sorry, hit the road, Jack.

Kimberly: 14:04 Well, that’s part of, I guess the first lesson you had for humans, which is change, shifting, pivoting. Right. There’s cycles to all of their journeys, the drones and the queen, and

Jimmy: 14:17 Also your role, your purpose scouts. The role of the drone is so significant in springtime, when the hives are building up and swarms are happening, you want to have a very robust and vibrant drone population. In fact, the phenomenon is a drone aggregate areas where there’s so many drones that there’s small swarms, and they’re looking for queens issued from new emerging queens that are on their mating flights go out several times and mate with a dozen to maybe even two dozen suitors. Wow. In those one, three to five flights that they take.

Kimberly: 15:01 So they’re adaptable beings,

Jimmy: 15:05 And it’s phenomenal what they’ll do. A laying queen is a queen that was not born a queen, but over a period of time will be able to have the ability to lay eggs only to keep the hive alive. And they’ll only lay eggs that mature into drones. The whole kind of process of queen receives all the sperm from the drones. But if it’s what they call a laying worker, if she’s going to become a laying worker, they choose one that’s going to be doing this. She starts laying eggs. But those eggs won’t be fertile. They’ll emerge. They will be reared as any other bee, but they’re going to emerge as drones, and more than likely they’re not going to be, that hive will not live long. It doesn’t have any longevity because of the absence of a queen.

Kimberly: 16:11 Wait, so the change was the first one, and then the purpose was each one was the third one. And then what was the second one that you said?

Jimmy: 16:20 The hive mind.

Kimberly: 16:22 Yes.

Jimmy: 16:23 And how they all kind of blend into that.

Kimberly: 16:26 Well, that there’s a common purpose. Yes. So everyone is working for this goal. What would that look like in our society?

What the greater collective looks like in the bee community

Jimmy: 16:37 I mean, it wouldn’t look anything like we have now, because competition, as we talked a little bit earlier, it would me and it would be,

Kimberly: 16:48 Well, the other thing that the parallel with Yogananda, because I’ve been reading so much, I’m really immersing back in it. I’m writing another book. So I love to at tune with Guruji is we limit our love and who we care about and our compassion to our small circle of here are my friends, this is my family, instead of we’re all family in a larger

Jimmy: 17:14 Sense.

Kimberly: 17:16 So the hive tell us, the hive to me is they don’t know every other B, but yet it’s part of this greater

Jimmy: 17:23 Collective. And I think that would be the transformative grand scale change if we were to adopt that kind of mentality, to not see us in these little small tribal units, but see us more in this broader spectrum or fabric of humanity, our brothers and sisters, that we have one mother, that we don’t have one father, that it’s this universal family of love.

Kimberly: 17:53 If society looked like that, Jimmy, it would almost be sharing trading. It would almost dissolve the monetary system. That’s where we get really philosophical.

Jimmy: 18:02 Sure, sure. Well, and just to kind of see you smiling and feeling my cheeks feeling good, it would look like this. Consider when you see a newborn baby, or when you had either one of the children and somebody greeted you a stranger and paid more attention to that newborn. And there was an immediate connection because when we see a child, 99.8% of the times, it was like, oh, how wonderful. Congratulations. There is this joy, bliss. And so that’s how it would be if we kind of adopted that type of attitude or that philosophy, that type of mentality to view our brothers and sisters of any, and I won’t get philosophical or political, but whatever tribe you’re from, we’re all from that same Wow.

Kimberly: 18:59 Well, and get goosebumps. It links to what we were saying where there are different parts to play and people have different inclinations and skills and whatever, but it doesn’t mean that anyone is better. Everyone’s equal. Thank you. So if society was working for the common and say, oh, well, I’m doing my part, whether it’s building buses, I’m an engineer or I’m a school teacher, and then it would be this pooling together of energy. And so the bees are obviously, like we just said, playing different roles, but it’s to the central for this creation. It’s the hive, it’s the honey,

Jimmy: 19:42 The higher purpose,

Kimberly: 19:43 The higher purpose beyond the individual bee.

Jimmy: 19:45 Yes, yes. Absolutely.

Kimberly: 19:48 So being around bees so much, Jimmy, does it sort of give you this philosophical, mystical, other worldly look at life? Because when I just put in my B suit, and I’ve only done it a few times, I really did feel transported. And you spend a lot of time in these hives.

Jimmy: 20:08 Now you know why I do.

Kimberly: 20:09 Right? Yeah. It’s magical.

Jimmy: 20:12 I was going to joke when you asked that question, is that a rhetorical question? Because it really is life affirming. It is a unique episode. It’s never the same experience. And sometimes I feel elated and have had such a wonderful experience, and sometimes it leaves me just crushed utterly. I’m despondent when

Kimberly: 20:41 You see how the bees are,

Jimmy: 20:44 Things happen in a hive, in recent example, to have a collapse of a hive due to whether it’s a past or some phenomenon happened that all of a sudden that hive is no longer pumping. It’s no longer on its high frequency, it’s in its death. Rows or it’ss, no longer in that kind of state of being. It is transformed that too. Yeah. Yeah. And so that’s hard sometimes, but that’s part of the joy. Yeah. Yeah.

Kimberly: 21:17 Well, I like how you said frequency because when the hive is thriving, there’s an energy, very powerful, palpable energy of what’s happening. And I think we mentioned this, maybe Jimmy on our last podcast, the Egyptians, I believe was the Egyptian said that the bees were the connector of the underworld, sort of this bridge between the mystical and the physical. And there’s something interesting going on with bees and their intelligence, but back to this idea that they just are, this is very much the true self that yogis talk about instead of this ego in the middle, this overthinking mind where the bees are present.

Jimmy: 22:08 Yes.

Kimberly: 22:10 Part of what you were saying, the shift and the purpose is this deep attention into what’s in front of us. Yes. Humans, we’re not present a lot. We’re imagining the future memories of the past

Jimmy: 22:25 Somewhere else. The

Kimberly: 22:27 Bees are here.

Jimmy: 22:27 Yes. And they command your attention when you’re working them, working with them, getting worked by them. They tell you it’s like rearing children in many ways. Parenting has so many cues. Your children give you signs that you can read. And sometimes we don’t have time. Sometimes we’re not paying attention. We’re trying to put a round peg in a square hole, whatever that might look like. Be keeping. It doesn’t work that way. You can’t do that. I’ve learned painful lessons from that. So it puts you in a different space every time you get the smoker going or don the veil and pry open that lid and fill that crack that they notice. You feel the intensity of, they feel

Kimberly: 23:23 You.

Jimmy: 23:24 I mean, maybe some of your listeners can appreciate this. That’s a very quick B inspection for me is to just lift up the hive. And if it’s heavy, I know it should be heavy. And if it’s light, then I know some things that it’s not in that state. And when I let it back down, that buzz will tell me, oh, this hive is in jeopardy, or this hive is doing well, and little things like that. I might not have the ability to go through all the hives, but I can kind of do a little triage just from some quick observations to find out, okay, who’s hive am I going to enter first and what do I anticipate?

Kimberly: 24:17 Jimmy, there’s that. You just say there are advanced yogic techniques where you actually, and it’s been described to me that it is the humming of a bee. And so it is creating this buzzing noise up in your head. There are certain chakras, your crown chakra, and it’s really amazing how it emulates the vibration that the bees are emitting. Yes. There’s something amazing about that

We discuss the sound frequency and vibrational energy of bees

Jimmy: 24:51 Sound frequency. Yes. I’m going to give you a little task homework tomorrow in the afternoon, go into the guest house and go into the back near the

Kimberly: 25:03 Where the wild bees

Jimmy: 25:04 Are into that bathroom shower area. And the bees are right underneath there, and you’ll hear ’em and feel them on that little outside stoop, that little porch. It’s really, it’s probably one of the coolest non beekeeping experience that you could have

Kimberly: 25:20 Underneath it and you

Jimmy: 25:21 Can feel ’em. Wow. You literally hear, and the other day when I drove up in the afternoon, it was so loud that the amount of buzzing going on throughout the whole guest house area was phenomenal. Wow. Yeah. I turned my radio off so I could enjoy that when I pulled in. It was so nice.

Kimberly: 25:43 I’m going to do it tomorrow. But the way you’re describing it, Jimmy, it almost feels like they’re working. They have this purpose. There’s a frequency. It almost feels like they’re beyond emotion instead of they’re not necessarily sad or angry. They’re sort of focused and they’re in their purpose or they’re sort of waning off, but it’s not emotional, which kind is like erratic emotions of the ego. They are living,

Jimmy: 26:14 They’re nonjudgmental.

Kimberly: 26:16 I love it. They’re not judgmental and they’re not moody. They are on task. They are focused. They just are.

Jimmy: 26:28 I mean, I will suggest that at times they can be moody.

Kimberly: 26:32 What times, I guess they get angry when you turn noise

Jimmy: 26:35 On. And things happened like the other day, I had my smoker. I was pointing it down and the lid wasn’t on well. And so I was pumping it hard and the lid fell off onto the bees onto the thing, and it just upset them, upset me. They got mad at you? They got mad at me. I had a beekeeping fail.

Kimberly: 26:55 Did they bite you?

Jimmy: 26:58 They came out kind of hot, and I might’ve gotten stung once, but it’s been kind of good beekeeping that way of having other tasks. So I can take a pause from the beekeeping with my face in the box and I can do some other things and then let them settle down, come back and work them without being too much of a disturbance or causing them any grief.

Kimberly: 27:24 Do you feel like they’re angry or do you feel like they’re instinctual, here’s a threat to the high?

Jimmy: 27:29 Yeah, that’s a good question. I think there are temperamental bees that are more thrown to being disagreeable, being really defensive, being more prone to stinging. And there’s some bees that are kind of aggressive in your face, but they don’t sting. And there’s some bees that they really, you can drop something on them, be a gorilla around ’em, and they’re not really aggressive. They’re not very prone to leaving the hive. They’re going to stay on the comb and just leave. You be,

Kimberly: 28:09 There’s so many fun with the fees. It’s so amazing. So yeah, it is just this example of what life could be a universe. And they exist and they’re doing their own thing, and yet they’re part of our world. We see them, but we don’t see the hive. We see the individual bees. They go out and then they’re in, they go back into this world that very few people, except for you, Jimmy and other beekeepers, and then people like us that go in sometimes really have this privilege of witnessing.

Jimmy: 28:44 Yeah, it is a privilege. It’s definitely been a wonderful labor of love. And I don’t know, I was just thinking earlier in the summer, because that’s when I took my class. We had a six week class that ended up being six months long. We all enjoyed working together. We were all feeling like we’re learning. And the instructor at the time, a Hawaiian from Ola, it was Jimmy Torrio was willing to have young help on the farm and work his AP areas, do weed wacking, and pull frames and learn how to do the extracting process. And it was good learning. For the majority of us. I know four folks from that group that are still pretty involved in beekeeping. Wow. And I’ve learned so much about my local kind of flora of when things are blooming and what kind of ornamentals, what natives, what fruit producing trees, what seasons, whether it’s citrus or avocado or other exotics that I never thought about.

30:05 Star fruit being something that bees love and bees totally love star fruit because there’s so many flowers on a star fruit tree. And then if bees work, those star fruit trees, there’s so many fruit on it. I mean those trees just put out. You have some, I think guava here. The bees will work that. And coconuts. There’s so much good things that bees get into on our properties in this area. Wow. Yeah. Then you have just small shrubs that I’m looking at these bringing in some kind of white pollen right now. And so I’m wondering what is out there that’s white,

Kimberly: 30:47 The energy of it. And I’ve always talked about Jimmy with our food cornerstone, which is one of our cornerstones in the community. We body emotional wellbeing, spiritual growth, or the other ones that I’ve always said, it’s not just about numbers. You can’t just say, oh, look at how many grams of sugar there is. Or here are the calories, which are on a certain level,

Jimmy: 31:14 Good information.

Kimberly: 31:15 But not everything can be quantifiable. And honey is, for me, one of those things that you can’t measure. Its potency. There is something in the Vedic scriptures called the Emory 10 Nectar. It’s when you get to a certain level and it goes in and it nourishes everything. It’s a nectar. And for me, the closest thing of taking that is the honey, because it really is from all the land like you’re describing in all the fruits. And it’s the essence of they’re going from the pinnacle of nature. They’re going for the flowers and the fruits. So it’s the highest level of nature. And when you have really high quality raw honey like that, and we take the honey back to la. So when we’re not here, I still have it every day. And it’s something deeply nourishing about taking in the energy of the bees that now working with you, Jimmy, and having our hives. I appreciate on a whole other level that never

Jimmy: 32:22 Got before. I’m excited to work with you with developing a market, if you will, some kind of product for a crystallized honey. Because I know that there are a variety of different solid honeys that people produce. And they’ll do a of different types of turmeric. Absolutely.

Kimberly: 32:41 Like little elixirs,

Jimmy: 32:43 Elderberry. If you were to mix up some different types of homeopathic from recipes, from oils, herbs, different types of supplemental additives mixed in with the crystallized honey and some other flavorings that whether it’s oil-based or I could see making some good turmeric. Ena is a thing. We grow here quite a bit and being able to make teas and bruise and different cocktails

Kimberly: 33:23 Elixirs. Well, I understand now why Dr. Jay, who I’ve interviewed as well, he’s my Ayurvedic teacher. Raw honey is something that is really prized in Ayurveda as well. Oh,

Jimmy: 33:36 Sure. It’s a superfood.

Kimberly: 33:38 Well, yeah. I can’t even explain it. It’s different. I mean, there’s lots of amazing superfoods, don’t get me wrong. And we have cacao here as well. The goji berries. There’s so many plants that are incredible. But there’s something about honey, because it’s this contribution of this network, the hive and so many different fruits and flowers. It’s more expansive than one plant. Do you know what I mean? It’s everything. And

Jimmy: 34:08 One B in her lifetime is going to give you a third of a teaspoon.

Kimberly: 34:15 What

Jimmy: 34:17 They make in that. Hard to quantify. Wow. Yeah. So when they have my big

Kimberly: 34:24 Old spoon every day,

Jimmy: 34:26 That’s a dozen output of a dozen bees in their lifetime and their short 35 to 45 day lifespan. And of that period of time, 80% is not out gathering. The majority of their time is spent as if you will, a house B, learning the ropes, learning how to care for their siblings and their mother really. And then learning how to defend the hive and being a guard bee and kind of keeping the infiltrators out, whether they’re family or foe. And then since they’re good at flying, they go out and they explore and bring back resources. And they do that until they perish. Wow. And they do it willingly, lovingly, and know that it’s for a greater purpose. It’s for the survival of our family. And to me, that’s what the bees really teach us, is that we have opportunity to be of service, that we have opportunity to live fulfilling lives, to have purpose and drive and determination to succeed so that our future generation has at least that, if not more.

Kimberly: 35:40 Wow. That is amazing, Jimmy. They’re just, like you said, they’re determined, they’re driven, they’re purposeful without ego, they’re for the collective. They adapt, they pivot, they change. I mean, there’s so many lessons from the bees. Absolutely. They’re pure creatures. And they’ve been around for millennia.

Jimmy: 36:02 Crazy mee

Kimberly: 36:03 When thinking about, I mean, the Egyptians and all the Babylonians, the Greeks. That’s right. They all had honey and bee and honey wine and all of it. Wow. Well, thank you so much, Jimmy. Is there anything else you want to share about, I mean, you shared so much already about these wise hives, these colonies, this universe that is holding a frequency here on our planet. Yes. Whether we’re going to be in the hives or not, they’re holding an energy here that is very unique. It’s completely unique. Yes.

Jimmy: 36:41 So let’s be conscious.

Kimberly: 36:42 Let’s be conscious and

Jimmy: 36:43 Peace be with you.

Kimberly: 36:45 I love it. Peace be. And also to honor the bees by choosing only ethical B products.

Jimmy: 36:54 Thank you. And please don’t use that stuff that if you will, causes great harm to our insects around the world.

Kimberly: 37:02 You mean like the pasteurized honey?

Jimmy: 37:05 I’m talking about pesticides.

Kimberly: 37:07 Oh, yes. Oh,

Jimmy: 37:09 As much as we can reduce the use of PEs, the better off our planet will be.

Kimberly: 37:14 Yes. Yes. And so that’s why it is important to continue to buy local organic biodynamic, grow your own food. That’s right. Yes. Instead of supporting commercial produce that supports Roundup and other pesticide use, which destroys the bees. Thank you for pointing that out. That’s

Jimmy: 37:33 So important. Well, Kimberly, thanks for having me more than full time talking with

Kimberly: 37:37 You. As always, Jimmy. Peace be with you. Peace

Jimmy: 37:40 Be with you.

Kimberly: 37:41 Aloha. Mahalo, everything.

03:19 I hope that you enjoyed our conversation today. As much as I loved speaking to Jimmy, beautiful, soul wise, soul, and sharing so much wisdom about the bees and you’re interested in learning more about Jimmy, please be sure to check out the show notes@mysauna.com for information and we will share about his radio show as well. And we’ll also share other podcasts that I think you would enjoy as well as articles, meditations, recipes. There is so much over on our website, so please check it out. We’ll be back here Thursday for our next show. So until then, take great care and sending you so much love and aloha. Namaste.