Bringing Heart and Accessibility to Female Biohacking with Lauren Berlingeri [Episode #935]

 

Episode Summary: 

In this engaging conversation, Kimberly Snyder speaks with Lauren Berlingeri, a holistic health coach and co-founder of HigherDOSE. They explore the concept of biohacking from a female perspective, discussing the importance of self-care, emotional regulation, and the balance between motherhood and entrepreneurship. Lauren shares insights on the four happy chemicals—dopamine, oxytocin, serotonin, and endorphins—and how to naturally enhance them through lifestyle choices. The discussion also touches on the significance of heart-centered leadership, the benefits of red light therapy, and the role of rituals in family life.

They explore the concept of biohacking from a female perspective, discussing the importance of self-care, emotional regulation, and the balance between motherhood and entrepreneurship. Lauren shares insights on the four happy chemicals—dopamine, oxytocin, serotonin, and endorphins—and how to naturally enhance them through lifestyle choices. The discussion also touches on the significance of heart-centered leadership, the benefits of red light therapy, and the role of rituals in family life.

 

About Lauren Berlingeri Co-Founder and CEO of HigherDOSE.

Lauren Berlingeri is dedicated to inspiring others through fitness and naturally-healthy lifestyle practices. After launching her career as an international model, Berlingeri went on to star in her own show, “Women vs. Workout”—grossing over 15 million views and receiving a Webby Award nomination for Best Host. This experience led to extreme sports hosting for brands such as UFC, EA Sports, and IMG. Having cemented her name within the fitness industry, Berlingeri decided to expand her expertise, earning a holistic nutritionist and health coach certification at The Institute of Integrative Nutrition. Her venture into the health and wellness startup spectrum began in 2014 as one of the first creative minds at Aloha.com—doing product development, leading the brand ambassador program, and brand partnerships.

Lauren discovered the power of Infrared technology — specifically Infrared saunas — and saw an opportunity to bring the biohacking tool to the masses. Since co-founding HigherDOSE with Katie Kaps, the wellness brand has experienced meteoric success, boiling down to a true revolutionization of the spa business. Creating all the initial branding themselves and even acting as models in their first campaigns, the brand exploded, leading the way to at-home sauna systems that thrived during the pandemic.

As a female biohacker and mother of twins, Lauren brings a fresh perspective to a space that has been dominated by male voices from its inception, making it HigherDOSE’s core mission to educate women about their bio-individuality and give them the tools they need to reach their own best selves, with content designed to educate people on how to take control of their own wellness regimens.

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Episode Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Holistic Health and Biohacking
02:49 The Female Perspective on Biohacking
06:07 Finding Balance as a Busy Mom and Entrepreneur
09:10 The Importance of Heart-Centered Leadership
12:03 Exploring the Four Happy Chemicals
15:07 Navigating Caffeine and Other Stimuli
18:04 Gentle Biohacking Technologies for Women
21:10 The Benefits of Red Light Therapy
24:02 Creating Evening Routines and Boundaries
26:57 The Role of Rituals in Family Life
29:47 Reflections on Parenting and Co-Sleeping
33:09 Closing Thoughts on Leadership and Self-Care

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Kimberly Snyder (00:01.176)
Hi everyone and welcome back to our Monday interview show. I am so excited to have our very special guest here on the show with us, Lauren Berlingeri, who is a holistic health coach. She is a female biohacker. She is the co-founder and co-CEO of HigherDOSE.. She is the TV host of Women vs. Workout, which won the Webby Award nomination for best host.

She has been in the wellness and wellness startup world since 2014. She’s an amazing entrepreneur. She’s a trailblazer in the space. Thank you so much, Lauren, for being here with us today. thank you for having me. I can’t wait to dig into the great conversation. Well, we’ve been here for a couple hours talking and doing the heart aligned meditation. Well, I kept stopping and being like, should we be recording this right now? Because there’s already been so much.

greatness that has happened. There’s so much greatness that’s happened and a very important part of your bio that I did not mention is that you are a mama of two. You have twins. have twins. five years old now. It was really hard the first three years as an entrepreneur with twins, but since they’ve turned five and now they’re just really great friends and whatnot, it’s so easy and now I want more, which is the crazy thing. I get asked a lot of questions. I’m sure you do as well about being a working mother, especially an entrepreneur.

And because for us as entrepreneurs, it’s never really, you know, off. We’re not just leaving the office. Our businesses are really integrated into our life as our kids. so I’d love to hear more about that aspect of your life as well. there’s so much to dig into here at Lauren. First of all, I have to say, and I feel like you’ve sort of owned this field of female biohacking, but you’re doing it in this accessible, approachable way.

when I first started hearing the word even hacking. It just feels very, you know. Masculine. Masculine, linear, harsh. You know, I know a lot of male biohackers, especially because my husband also works in the wellness space, particularly with male biohackers. So it has that feeling. And then you’ve brought your own feminine spin on it.

Kimberly Snyder (02:21.324)
tell how this developed, what it came about. Yeah, I mean, we also don’t like the word biohacking and have tried to find many different ways to talk about what we do. you know, we can say it’s holistic recovery or in the pursuit of vitality or living the high life. You know, I think ultimately, at the end of the day, everyone just wants to feel better. And, you know, I’ve always been in the health and wellness space and health and wellness has mainly been around diet, nutrition and

and fitness. And I think of what we loved about the biohacking space, it was in this like pursuit of optimization and, you know, mental and emotional, you know, health as well. And you were also, you know, speaking about like, when you first started about nutrition and fitness, that there was something missing, whether that be like faith, spirituality, the heart, heart, there’s so much more there. So I think when you actually achieve feeling healthy, you realize that there’s so much more.

and you know, like the biohacking space is mainly male dominated, which is unfortunate, but I feel like the women that women are the original biohackers. just never called ourselves that, you know, women not only have their hormonal cycles, but we also have pregnancy and post pregnancy and menopause and many things to consider in our bodies and our emotional states are different at so many different moments in our lives. And there are so many tools for people out there.

to help them feel and look their best. And we discovered most of them in the biohacking world, infrared saunas, rhythm therapy, PEMF, just getting exposure to light. And there’s so much greatness in the biohacking world. So we’re trying to look at it from the female lens and what that looks like and bring these amazing tools to more women because they are amazing tools.

don’t know what to call it. We’re like pioneering this whole new space in vitality. And we haven’t really figured out what that word is. HigherDOSE.stands for dopamine, oxytocin, serotonin, and endorphins, which are our four main happy chemicals. So what we talk about all the time is ways to release those happy chemicals and get high naturally. that’s our different spin on it.

Kimberly Snyder (04:43.606)
Unfortunately, I feel like most of our tools are in the biohacking space, but we are here to educate on this amazing world and help people bring these tools in to help them feel and look their best. So I want to break down those four hormones we talked about in just a moment. But one of the things that stood out to me, and I’ve tried the higher dose products and I love many of them, I like that they are also, feel the ones that I love.

like the mat, they feel self-care oriented versus pushing myself to be better, like relentlessly and sort of in the forced way. But one of the things when I was doing research and reading as well in your guide, you actually use the term, I forget which page it’s on, you actually say feel good, which is funny because it’s the name of our podcast. And people think about feel good in different ways, right? For me,

Feeling good means we’re really connected to ourselves, to our hearts, to our authentic expression. It’s not forced, know, giddiness all the time, but there’s a groundedness in feeling good. And we can achieve that through emotional regulation, through heart practices, and also through external tools, which can help us physically and with our health in all sorts of ways. So it’s really this multi-dimensional approach. It’s not all or nothing. And you can also take what

works for you because another piece that I think when I speak for many women, sometimes it’s confusing. Sometimes the messages we get are if you go on social media, there’s so many modalities. And it’s like, I don’t have time to do everything. I don’t have time to, you know, cold clunge. Yeah, wake up more. See the sun, you know, do your exercises, right? the weightlifting work and

It’s just a lot. how do you, before we get into the feel good chemicals, which are so powerful, I think to run through, but how would you, what would you say to someone, what do you do in your own routine, Lauren, where it’s like you’re a busy mom, you’re running a business, can’t do everything. Does it shift day to day or is it seasonal or are you just sort of leaning in with what?

Kimberly Snyder (06:51.628)
makes the most impact for your body? Yeah, no, I think the number one thing is having a relationship with yourself and your body and trying to tap into what it is that you feel like you need in that moment. Because much like yourself, I don’t have time to do all the things that I know I need to be doing every day. But it’s like, when I do have the 20 or 30 minutes, like what do I reach in and do in order to sort of offset what it is that I’m feeling?

So sometimes I feel low energy and then I might need to like go and do a workout to help me feel better. Or sometimes I might feel stressed and know that like going into my sauna, I’m Yes. feel better. And sometimes I feel like I need a tool to help me sleep at night. You know, I might do some red light therapy because I didn’t get outside that day. And it does change all the time. And I think when you are really educated about this world of ways to help yourself feel better, there’s lots of tools to do. So every day it changes.

Beautiful every day. Sometimes I you know have five minutes and sometimes I have an hour for self care But it’s just about like having those resources the tools and the education and the know-how to help yourself Feel your best and know what you need in that moment Yeah for me. It’s like I have a base right? know I’m gonna meditate every morning Yeah, I have a pretty solid morning routine, but they’re shifting within it, right? So I may put different ingredients of my glowing green smoothie, which I’ve been drinking for over a decade

And sometimes, usually I do my walk, my, you know, my exercise, but when I’m on my moon cycle. I might not want to. Yeah, I just wanna like sit on the floor and do like very in yoga. So I think it’s important to have some type of foundation, to have the tools, but also to not be so rigid. Not be so rigid Which is again, back to the overly masculine, pushing the way, which is where I think we can start to feel depleted.

Well, I know better than anyone because I’m very a type personality. When I was doing women versus workout, I was doing Navy SEAL training. was doing NASCAR driving motocross. I felt like for your pregnancy. yeah. Yeah. This was like maybe 15 years ago. Yeah. But if I didn’t wake up and run 10 miles in the morning, then I wasn’t like I wasn’t happy. You know, I relied on that for my happiness. And if I wasn’t getting a little bit faster every day, then it was like it didn’t didn’t even count. And I depleted myself.

Kimberly Snyder (09:10.392)
my hormones were all out of whack. couldn’t sleep at night. I’d literally wake up in the middle of the night and have to eat something just to calm my nervous system down. So I learned the hard way of burnout and what that feeling was like. And now I’m very different. Like I don’t put that much pressure on, you know, what I need to do in terms of workout or, you know, making sure that I’m getting faster or stronger and whatnot. And the crazy thing is, is like, I’ve achieved this body that I was trying to get, you know, 15 years ago.

because I’m just in tune with what it needs. And I have a relationship with myself and I don’t have the same expectations on myself. you know, I’m trying to figure out how to do that a little bit more with work. And as an entrepreneur, we were talking about this before, like, I still have a hard time with work because I feel very stressed by work. I’m so passionate about what I do. I want, you know, that passion to come through and everything that I do with product and my team and whatnot. So I’m trying to figure out how not to put so much pressure on myself the same way I did.

15 years ago with workouts and that’s been a little bit more challenging. I wish I had more of a mindfulness practice every morning. It’s been really challenging for me but if I go into the sauna, I can do it. Well now you can do the alignment. Yeah, if I go on the mat, helps me calm down and relax. So I still need those tools in order to help me drop in. And we just did the heart alignment meditation before and I’m like, man, this is what I need to be doing.

eight minutes. and immediately it changed my whole being and the way that I felt about my relationships that were triggering me or causing me stress. And I was just like sending them love. And I was just like, this is so easy. Like, but we forget, we forget, even though we have these tools. And we, we, you know, used to be a great meditator eight years ago, you sort of forget. then when you go back there, it’s just like how quick you can go back and so powerful. Yeah.

And also like we were talking about, sometimes there’s different buckets that are easier to be in our hearts. Sometimes it’s easy to, we’re trying to get a lot of things done. We’re entrepreneurs to kind of plow forward and to get as the language we use in the community, the propelled heart, right? Sort of that make it happen onto the next thing where we feel hardened and sort of, you know, just very mind based. And what that does to the body is we know that is definitely detrimental to hormonal balance.

Kimberly Snyder (11:35.992)
inflammation, digestive health, so many things. So I’m so happy we were able to really connect on a heart level, Lauren. I just talking and what I found for me is when we really do the work with the heart, comes out like I’d see it in my family life. I see it in my work life. It doesn’t mean we’re perfect, right? Still get into some ego battles with my husband or with certain people, but you come back faster. And you can adjust. you realize how

good it feels to really be in this heart led way. And I think this is how we can start to really move forward into just success in a different way. Could you imagine if more leaders led with that heart? I mean, I find it very easy to do that with my kids. It’s so natural. Right. You know, when you were telling me about these different heart levels, I was like, I’m definitely like more of a clear heart when it comes to my family and my kids, but I can’t help but be out of

stage two with my business and why is that? like, could I be in more of this clear state and still be a great leader and still have these expectations on my team? But heart led. But heart led. I think it would be an amazing injection of just a different fresh energy. I think, know, myself too. Yes, enjoy. so depleted at work. Yeah. Well, what’s amazing in my, my team at Saluna, when I started doing this work, one of the things is we have really

honest conversations where it’s like, hey, you know, coming from the heart, like I’m really feeling like this or this. And it just takes out so much wasted energy when you can really be clear, like the ego is personal and gets offended and slighted. Defensive. Defensive. And it just causes a lot of friction. So I know in my work life, so much energy saved. So it’s a beautiful thing to just work into like another, a different layer of, you know,

You can even call it biohacking if you will. it is. But that’s what it is. Yes, it’s a technology. It’s a technology. Yeah. It’s a practice. It’s a tool. You know, because we are human and we will go back into ego. But it’s about, you know, tapping back into that tool that you need in that moment to remind yourself. Yes.

Kimberly Snyder (13:48.056)
So now I’d love to dive into some of the technology that you’ve really gone down the rabbit hole. If we could go back to the joes for a minute, dopamine, oxytocin, serotonin, and endorphins, and those are your four main happy chemicals. They’re all very different. know, dopamine is the happy chemical that you release when you get something done, when you accomplish. Oxytocin is more heart-led. It’s self-care, touch, connection, eye contact, you know, how we’re sitting here now.

Serotonin is kind of the happy chemical that you can get in many different ways. It’s mainly made in your gut, healthy foods, meditation, the sun. There’s a ton of- sleep. Good sleep, yeah. That one’s a little bit easier to get. And then endorphins was my happy chemical of choice that I would dose myself all the time, which was workouts, I really stress. And so that’s kind of more the pain.

receptor one, two as well. So when you’re pushing it in a workout or you get that intense body work, you release all these like feel good endorphins. When your heart, you know, beats at a faster pace, you’re releasing a lot of endorphins. So yeah, our whole company is based around releasing these happy chemicals. And a lot of our tools are based around releasing these happy chemicals. And I think it’s a very different way of thinking about health and wellness is like,

releasing these feel-good hormones. And it’s not just with our products, but it’s the lifestyle. And we’re very much focused on educating around ways to naturally release these happy chemicals that are free. And that you can access at any point. So we have the high life. So for example. Dopamine.

I mean, don’t I said it just from Instagram, right? Because as we hear like people are checking all the time to get like, well, yeah, like you can set a goal, say like now my new goal is to wake up every day and do the heart lead meditation. Yeah, my day that way. And you know, if I wake up in the morning and do that, then I like already released this happy chemical of, you know, dopamine. Yeah, you’ve success like raceways beautiful. But there’s also kind of quick.

Kimberly Snyder (15:53.496)
fix high ways of releasing these happy chemicals and then you crash afterwards. So going on your cell phone and scrolling through Instagram is a quick fix of dopamine and then you feel bad about yourself afterwards. So you also have to be very careful with ways that you, we call them lower doses. Where you can, drinking alcohol is another way of initially releasing these happy chemicals and then sort of crashing afterwards.

Drugs are full of happy chemicals that you’re releasing and then you get depleted afterwards. Can you tell us a little bit about your perspective on caffeine, which we were sharing about is a newer thing in my life and yeah, I like how coffee tastes, but I definitely don’t like the jittery. after. Yeah, I realize I’m very sensitive to caffeine. Yeah, yeah, I’m very sensitive to caffeine too. That’s why I wanted to ask you if you drink caffeine because

I find it raises my cortisol. puts me more into that second phase of heart, know, I’m like, do, do, then you kind of have that crash afterwards. So, you know, it’s about finding those practices that can like, you know, get you excited and make you feel full of life and fill up that battery without like knowing that you’re going to crash afterwards.

Yes. And I think it’s different, obviously, like we said, for each person, my husband, my dad, even who’s staying with us now, he’ll have a coffee in the afternoon is no effect on his sleep. He likes it. It’s like part of his practice. But do think that’s mainly because he maybe doesn’t have a business that he’s running and like lots of to do’s and it’s not like just amping up his already cortisol.

I think that and I also think from an Ayurvedic perspective, such different body types, he’s very kapha. John, my husband is very pit-dab, very fiery. And we tend to like what we… We shouldn’t have. Yes. So I’m very vata, right? Which is, know… Air. Yeah. Yeah. It’s dry and I can be floaty and I really like dry, like crackers, like crispy things versus, you know, my body type would benefit from more fats and grounding oils and certain things.

Kimberly Snyder (18:04.764)
So I think it has to do with that. think my dad is, people have different tolerances. But it’s just kind of like realizing that everything has an energetic essence and you have to just like be aware of what energy that’s going to bring in and whether it’s going to be balancing or not balancing to the body. Exactly. And so it’s interesting because Wim Hof came on here, which I think you know. I love Wim Hof. Cold plunge person. And I totally respect.

the philosophy around cold and I understand what it’s doing for circulation. But there’s also different body types, different times of your female cycle. Well, that’s the issue with all of the biohacking world is mainly because it is male dominated. Most of these practices are made for men. Most of the science and research is done on men. And we have to navigate this world very differently as a woman because they don’t really consider our hormones.

our goals, you know, where we’re at in our cycles. Just so much more to consider. And so I know for myself that if I do cold plunges, especially at certain times in my cycle, it’s almost like a trauma to my nervous system. My brain doesn’t work afterwards. doesn’t work for me. Whereas, you know, the saunas, the heat, stretching on the mats, like these feel very nourishing. you know, back to that intuition.

Yeah, well, mean, we kind of go through all of the biohacking technologies and really only choose ones that we know are gentle and safe and nourishing for everyone. It’s the reason why we haven’t launched a cold plunge or have launched any of the technologies that can be quite detrimental to the nervous system or just like a lot of contraindications at the end of the day. All of it is like very gentle. Right.

And research based research based technologies and as two female founders, you know, we’re ultimately released or loving technologies that really nourish women I’m really interested in red light therapy, which I do feel good Having my husband set up a red light in our sauna, which I have to admit

Kimberly Snyder (20:14.956)
I don’t use so often. you don’t use the sauna so often? it’s just hard to to. You see it’s in our garage and I’m with the kids in the morning and bedtime and then I don’t know. It’s just I would like to spend more time in the sauna. But the red light, you hear a lot of benefits for skin, for other things. It’s gentle. mean, most people know about the skin enhancing benefits of red light therapy, but there’s mitochondrial function that is amazing for it balances your circadian rhythm.

So it’s red and infrared light, which is ultimately what the sun gives you in the morning when it’s sunrise and then when it’s sunset. And that’s why it’s so amazing for your circadian rhythm because it’s telling your body to restore, recover, calm down. It helps you go to bed at night. light is the opposite, which is why you don’t devices. Yeah, and I don’t like stimulation. stimulating cortisol releasing. So there’s like many health benefits beyond just the skin enhancing benefits of red light therapy that I think most people don’t know about. But even the skin is helping to repair the collagen. So what it’s doing is it’s feeding your mitochondria, which is your cell to produce ATP, which is energy, which means that every cell is optimized. Yeah. And that’s why your skin is like glowing and dewy because you’re feeding the cells. Is your skin is so glowing? Same for you.

How often do you have to do it? Because I mean, again, the busy mom, the busy person’s like, well, you know. Well, so you wake up and you do your morning walk and I’m assuming it’s outside in the sun, right? you’re getting do the midday, yes. I’m outside playing with the kids in the morning and just go, you know, we do 30 minutes with my younger son in the yard, in the play yard before we go into class. So I do have sun exposure in the morning. Right. So all of our technologies are just replicating nature.

So if you can get outside and be in the sun and expose yourself to the sun, that is the best. You wanna get natural sunlight in your eyes. You definitely wanna get it in the morning when you first wake up. It’s a great way to naturally wake up versus, yes. Are you a face sunscreen person? So I always wear a hat. You’re me. I wear a hat, but I feel like it’s very important to get the sun at least for 20 minutes a day, which is sort of what the red light session is, is 20 minutes of sun a day.

Kimberly Snyder (22:36.344)
because there’s so many receptors in your skin and your eyes that ultimately your cells get charged from the sun too as well. So I don’t wear sunscreen on my skin. I’m not someone that lays out all day long for three hours and bakes. It’s very different. I’m dosing myself with the sun. then when you don’t have time to do that, because we’re busy, we’re working from home. Or you live in a place that doesn’t have sun. That’s where red light therapy is so therapeutic.

and so important to do daily. So when you’re doing the red light and I you guys have a mask is your eyes getting benefit? Yes. Really? Yes. And it’s going into your eyes, is it? It is. Yes. That’s why we have the eye holes so that you do get the red light through the eye holes too. Really? Yes. And with panels. So with your sauna, you do like a red light. Right. All that we have. It’s important to actually get the red light through your eyes because that’s where you get the circadian rhythm benefits.

Wow. Yeah. And most people don’t know that they think they have to wear goggles and whatnot. Yes. But it’s actually regenerative to the eye. It’s healthy for your eye to get the red light. Can overdo it? You can overdo anything. Listen to this and stare at it for 10 hours. Yeah. I mean, that’s why we have sessions. You do a 10 or 20 minute. You don’t have to stay there with your eyes open the whole entire time. It’s pretty much the same when you’re outside. And that’s why they say, you know, get

red light when the sun is going down or coming up because that’s when you can look at the sunset. Beautiful. Right. Right. that’s when you do get all the benefits for your circadian rhythm. It’s telling you, okay, it’s the end of the day. It’s time to relax and release melatonin and get ready to go to bed. And then you sleep so deeply. But then if you come back inside and you’re on your cell phone, getting that blue light cortisol inducing, then your body starts releasing cortisol and you’re not priming yourself to go to sleep and your circadian rhythm gets messed up.

So let’s talk very practically and honestly, okay? In the evening, sometimes I do have to catch up with emails. I do wear blue light blocking glasses. I try to be off at a certain time. Tell us as a mom. then do the red light face mask right after before bed. say, tell us what you do as an entrepreneur. Are you getting off your work at a certain time? Are you doing this red light mask after your kids are in bed? How many times a week?

Kimberly Snyder (25:01.728)
What is some of your evening routine? So I have a very strong boundary with my phone. On weekends, I don’t even know where it is. Really? As long as I’m with my kids, like, yeah, people know don’t not to contact me. I mean, I’m very blessed because I have people on my team that worry about finances and things that like you can check out for a couple of days. So I feel very blessed in that that way. But I try not to go on my phone after dinner. I

actually rarely even look at it. I always put it on airplane. And then we have like pink Himalayan lamps in our house. we do too. Yeah. And that’s more of like the red tones. And we just kind of turn the lights down naturally. I love doing red light therapy then. If I am going to meditate, that is my time to do it because it just helps me like calm down and relax the body. We love going out and like going for a walk after dinner and watching the sun go down.

but I am very, very particular on not watching TV, not being by my laptop. It’s very rare that I would ever, you know, even go on and do some work at that time, unless it’s Q4 and you know, we’re feeling stressed out and I have to, but that’s one thing I have a lot of strong boundaries with. You’re like me. I don’t find screens relaxing. I actually find them stimulating and I’m not drawn to them. So what do you and your husband do in the evening?

I mean, we have kids, so it’s usually after dinner, it’s bath time, and then we read them books. And then what are you guys I go to bed with my kids. my gosh, you’re like, you’re so similar, it’s so funny. David sleeps with one, I sleep with the other. All four of us are in co-sleep mode now. And it’s actually, so we have an eight sleep too. nice. And so there’s different temperatures for either half. And we three are on the warmer side, and then John’s on his side.

I have to say I grew up, my family’s from the Philippines. You co-sleep, this is a cultural It’s so good for their nervous system. It’s so good for regulating and it’s honestly my quality time with my kids. you think about, because sometimes John is on board and sometimes he gets annoyed. What do you think about the relationship with the husband though? I think if anything, it adds some fire to our relationship because we miss each other. We to make love in other ways. Yeah. I mean, I’m not usually one that likes to make love.

Kimberly Snyder (27:26.648)
before bed because I’m so exhausted. I’m a day person, morning person anyways. But yeah, no, I think if anything, makes me like miss him and be excited when we do have quality time or we do just get to sleep together. so I love sleeping with my kids and David does too. Do you switch which child? We do. yeah, we sort of let them choose. My son prefers to sleep with me. But during the day, he loves to be with David and

My daughter loves being with me during the day, but she loves to sleep with David. Yeah. Well, that, so for me, it works as long as by the early morning, I’ll take our younger son. have positions, right? Position one, I’m in position two, position three, position four. So that you get sandwiched by the I’m in between the kids. Yeah. But in the early morning, I’ll move Momo over so that I can cuddle John. Cause that’s the part that I do feel is important for me is us having.

you know, nightly cuddle time. Yeah. And then we also have something called the control center, which is when they’re asleep. Like even if I kind of scooch over to his side, we like to have time to sort of, talk about our businesses, we talk about our lives, we talk about our day because we’re not together during the day so much. that’s important. So David and I are, we both work from home. like same home. Okay. So you’re talking all day anyway. David and I are together all the time. Really? You don’t go off in your own office and he and his? yeah, definitely. David

works like more three hours a day. So he’s always like working on the house and doing, you know, errands outside of the house where I have my office in the garage. But we also travel together to a lot. So we are together a lot always. Yeah. And we rather spend quality time like we’re learning how to do honky tonk two step in Texas. I love it. We’re you know, he has a motorcycle but we’ll go for like a motorcycle ride or we are learning how to

horseback ride together and we have our things and because I don’t really like to drink anymore. know, I don’t like to eat out anymore. We had to sort of reinvent the ways that we spend quality time together, which has been great. I love that. It is that, you know, throwing out the cookie cutter way of date night or whatever. We you see where we live in the mountains, going out to dinner.

Kimberly Snyder (29:47.96)
Is it a nightmare? Yes. It’s a huge tour. We don’t want to, I don’t want to get dressed up and drive down the hill. We just will cut open a blanket, go on the porch, listen to the owls, watch the moon. And that feels really nourishing. Yeah. And you got to do what works for you. Yeah. Yeah. Just back to the intuitive self care. and do you have someone here watching the kids so that you guys kind of uninterrupted time? We do that after they’re in bed. Yeah. Yeah. I’ve never had like a nanny.

But I have a, you know, we’re lucky enough to have a housekeeper. And sometimes if I have a podcast or she’ll fill in some gaps, but you know, I like to put them to bed and then we’ll have that time and then we’ll get back in the bed all four of us together. Wait till they’re asleep, sneak out, come back. It’s funny of all these like bedrooms with beds and no one uses them. No one uses them. They’re the playrooms. You know, you were in some of them that is never used. Yeah, we only have so much time with our kids when they’re little like that too.

you know, they’re gonna get big and one day want to be in their own bed and cherish those moments. And it calms my nervous system down. It regulates me just as much as it regulates them. Yeah, yeah, it’s really amazing to I love talking to other parents that have a similar approach. And however people feel there’s no right or wrong, but it’s back to what feels right for you and your family. And we travel a lot too. And you know, they’re so young, they don’t want to sleep in a strange bed and whatnot. It just works for us.

Yeah. And so back to the, you know, if we were to say that co-sleeping would fall into one of those feel good chemicals, what is it? Oxytocin. It’s the oxytocin of touch, connection. Oxytocin, yep. Skin to skin. know, just the best. It’s one of the best ways to release oxytocin. Wow. Especially because one of the best ways to release oxytocin is when, you know, you’re breastfeeding and you know, you don’t get that connection with your child anymore.

I take baths with my kids too. Yeah, yeah. You we put the serotonin soak in there, the magnesium zestein, they like love that little ritual. They put the salts in and we all get in the bath together and that’s the time they tell me things. Wow. You know, they actually tell me stories. It’s like when I would pick them up from school, it’s like, what did you guys do today? They’re like, nothing. I know, that’s exactly what Mike can say too. You know, I’m like, okay. And then when we’re at home, they’re playing and they wanna talk about what they’re doing in the moment. But when we…

Kimberly Snyder (32:13.68)
those like really intimate moments in the bath they tell me they don’t stop talking. Yeah it’s so beautiful. The rituals. The rituals of it and you have to create your own rituals like you know I grew up being Christian going to church and being very specific around our rituals around holidays and whatnot and I don’t find myself bringing those same rituals into the home so we

Yes, yeah. So many.

Kimberly Snyder (33:09.442)
pay them for every single time they read a book and then they can save and then they can put that towards buying more books. And I love it. know, instilling those like small little, you know, rituals and, and, know, reading at night is like been the best thing for us. we’re big readers. I’m excited for you to read your Chilla Gorilla. And also we love to do gratitude practice. So after we say grace, usually I lead grace, we go around, we say what we’re grateful for. Is this after dinner?

No, well, this is the beginning of dinner. So we’ll say grace and then people can start. start eating and then everyone goes around and says what they’re grateful for. It’s so sweet. Some of the things what they say they’re grateful for. Yes. And sometimes it will be a specific teacher. It’s always the family, the whole, like they say certain things, but sometimes they’ll say, you know, my Lego set today, or, you know, I’m just so grateful that, you know, Papa and I played that chess game and I won or, you know, just

just really from their heart, but it’s a way to really bring our days together and to celebrate. And it’s just foundational. Yeah, it’s so cute that you say that because my kids just turned five and I used to ask them what they were grateful for too. And I don’t think they really ever understood the word. It took them a really long time for them to wrap their head around what grateful men. But then once they started to understand it, it was like such a big shift. And now it’s like daily, it’s like

Are you grateful that we just did this amazing experience or you just got this toy and it’s like just helping them every moment, like realizing what they’re grateful for and in small moments during the day too. What was it like being pregnant with twins? my gosh. Was it the twins running your family? Yep. So my mom’s a twin and then my dad’s sister was just spontaneously. Well, I was told my whole life by my mom and my sister that you’re going to be the one to have twins because I was the extremist. Right. Everything I did was so extreme.

And when I got pregnant, my mom and my sister were like, so are you having twins? And my first ultrasound, they only detected one baby. So they were heart sunk or synced. The hearts were beating at the same time. And then one was in front of the other. my gosh. So it was a surprise a few weeks later. Yeah, at four and a half months, I went for the second ultrasound. Thank God David was there because he wasn’t there during the first one. And that’s when she was like,

Kimberly Snyder (35:36.608)
Sweetheart, you’re having twins and I was like Like I thought it was like you were having a boy or a girl with the first I mean I didn’t know at that point I couldn’t tell until they do like the full anatomy scan But I thought my life was over because I was an entrepreneur five years into yeah I already felt guilty about having kids and then two and then two and then we also didn’t have help either and I just like

always sort of imagined myself being that entrepreneur that like would bring their baby into the office and it wouldn’t be a big deal. like, you know, and when you have twins, you need to have someone following you all the time. You can’t be by yourself. So I have an angel of a mother and she ended up retiring early and coming and helping me for three months here. And then she would leave for a month. And, and then the good thing about COVID for us was when the kids were six months, COVID happened. So that’s where

that mentality shifted that you didn’t need to go into the office and then to be home with your kids. Whereas before I was going into the office five days a week. Wow. And we locations. had 11 locations at the time. so you were traveling. Well, no, mean locations in New York. So we had spa locations. We started out with spa locations. And then after the pandemic, we only reopened two. So that’s when we were able to.

We had New York and we tried Miami and then we ended up in Austin, Texas. Wow. Miami didn’t work for you guys? No, it was very hard to meet our community there. You know, we were living on South Beach and, you know, David and I are very active parents and we found that we were at the playground trying to meet friends and it was like the nannies there with other kids.

and also every day feels like the same. doesn’t feel, it feels like a holiday, this. Yeah. Every day feels like groundhog day and David’s in music and he loved Austin. Austin has a great community, great people. and we decided that like Austin was better for our family. well, gee, Lauren, I could talk to you all day long. There’s so many aspects. I absolutely love everything that you’re creating from your heart.

Kimberly Snyder (37:53.068)
really quality in your business, in your family life. Is there anything that we didn’t cover about your work, your female biohacking, higher dose? I want to talk about today. man, there’s so much there. The parting thought. I think it was just sort of that practice that I did, you know, really helped me realize that I want to shift more into being a heart centric focused leader as a CEO.

Beautiful. And that was a really nice gift that I got from you today. And I really appreciate that because I do feel like I show up a lot in my heart when it comes to developing products or the brand, the messaging and education, but not always as a leader because sometimes I just feel overwhelmed and stressed and managing different personalities. And I felt like that exercise that we did today really helped me realize that I don’t need to stress and burn out the way that I did and just like

lead more in faith and trust in God and, and, know, ultimately compassion. so I found that to be really helpful. And if anyone’s listening and they’re a CEO or they’re starting a new business and whatnot, if you could start to implement that now, even at the early stages, I feel like, you know, you’ll have a

much better time doing it. What an amazing message that is so me I’m getting goosebumps everywhere. I think it’s going to be so impactful. Or I think it’s going to change everything. You’ll have to keep in touch with us and let us know. Well, I’m to read your book and then maybe we can have a whole other conversation. Yeah, let’s do a post. Yeah. Thank you so much love and tell us where we can find out more about you. Yeah. Hire Joe’s all your amazing work. Yeah. So I’m at Lauren Berlingeri on Instagram. I

do a little bit there, but we do a lot of content. We have a show called Biohack Hers about female biohacking through the female biohacking lens. And then we have content called The Hot Seat where I interview people in the sauna. So if you ever want to check that out, it’s really great. It’s also on the website. And then also check out HigherDOSE. at higherDOSE.com. Amazing love. And we will link to every, all the different points that Lauren just shared in the show notes which are mysolluna.com. So thank you again so much love for being with us today. was amazing. And thank you all so much for tuning in. We’ll be back here as always Thursday for our next Q &A show. So until then take great care and sending you so much love. Thank you.