This week’s topic:
Hello everyone and welcome back to our Monday interview show. I am so excited for our very special guest today, Patrick Kennedy, who is a New York Times bestselling author and former member of the US House of Representatives and the nation’s leading political voice on mental illness, addiction and other brain diseases. During his 16 year career representing Rhode Island in Congress, he fought a national battle to end medical and societal discrimination against these illnesses, highlighted by his lead sponsorship of the Mental Health Parity and Addictions Equity Act of 2008. He has a new book out, which is incredible, called Profiles in Mental Health Courage. It goes on and on, but I’ll pause there first to welcome you onto the show, Patrick. Thank you so much for being here with us today.
About Philipp Samor von Holtzendorff-Fehling
Philipp Samor von Holtzendorff-Fehling is a coach, conscious entrepreneur, and energy healer. In parallel to a successful international business career, he constantly worked through blockages and barriers that had prevented him from fully connecting with his true self. With that, he also started to see energy fields and developed his unique skills as a healer, and he went through two decades of training in shamanic and other energy healing practices.
During his business career, he worked as an executive for several well-known companies, including T-Mobile International and T-Mobile US, where he served as Vice President. Philipp is ranked 2nd in the USA in tennis Men’s 50. He’s the founder and CEO of Leela Quantum Tech and Quantum Upgrade.
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Episode Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Quantum Energy and Interconnectedness
02:54 The Shift from Newtonian to Quantum Thinking
06:03 Understanding the Quantum Field and Personal Energy
08:59 Navigating Modern Challenges: EMFs and Personal Resilience
12:06 Raising Vibration and Heart Coherence
14:49 The Science Behind Healing and Quantum Technology
18:09 From Corporate to Consciousness: Philip’s Journey
25:54 Exploring Shamanic Healing and Energy Work
27:24 Transitioning from Corporate to Heart-Centered Living
28:43 The Impact of Chronic Illness on Personal Growth
30:28 Harnessing Quantum Energy for Healing
32:42 The Science Behind Energy Products
36:01 Practical Applications of Quantum Technology
40:16 Critiques and Validation of Energy Research
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Transcript:
Kimberly Snyder (00:00.886)
Hello everyone and welcome back to our Monday interview show. I am so excited for my very special guest here today and the conversation that we’re going to have around the quantum field and energy, which is one of my favorite things to talk about. My guest name is Philip Samor von Holtzendorf failing.
He is a coach, conscious entrepreneur, and energy healer. He has been a high level corporate executive for companies such as T-Mobile, talking about energy fields and EMF waves. And after years of training and study, he founded Lila Quantum Tech and Quantum Upgrade, and he is a pioneer in the quantum energy field. Philip, thank you so much for joining us here today.
Philipp VHF (00:52.493)
Thanks so much for having me on.
Kimberly Snyder (00:54.912)
You know, it’s interesting, Philip, and it sounds like you may be European or you didn’t grow up here, but I can speak for myself growing up in the States. The way we were taught science was very Newtonian, you know, science, physics. Here’s me, here’s you, here’s these objects. There’s all this distance between everything separated. Everything is like in its own.
know, station in life. And then when I started getting into yoga and learning more about quantum physics, it turned everything upside down for me. And there’s this whole other perspective, which you and I believe is the truth, which is that, and reading books like The Field, which I recently read by Lynn McTaggart, how there really is this interconnectedness, what we refer to, what you refer to as the quantum field.
Which is so fascinating, Phillip, because it’s literally the opposite of what most of us were taught. Is that what you were taught? And where did you grow up, by the way?
Philipp VHF (01:54.585)
100 %
Yeah, so, you know, I grew up in Germany. I’m American and I’m German, but I grew up in Germany and 100 % that is what was taught. And that’s what we realize in relatively quickly, most of us at least, right? There’s a few like my wife or, know, we separated technically, but she used to be my wife for 18 years. When she was born, she was born with the ability to see all right energy fields. There are people that don’t
Kimberly Snyder (02:02.656)
Yes.
Philipp VHF (02:27.575)
lose this conscious connection to the divine and they maintain this way of seeing. But most people lose it as a little kid, right? We become separated and then that’s what we live in. And then everything is only true what we can touch and what we can see with our eyes. And we completely even forget that we’re energy and frequency to begin with.
Kimberly Snyder (02:47.159)
Yeah.
Kimberly Snyder (02:54.69)
Well, know, even spiritually, Philip, you know, growing up, I grew up Catholic, right? And there was sort of like me and the priest and you’re supposed to go to confession to talk to God, to talk to spirit. And then when I went backpacking after college and I was on the road for three years and I ended up in India and this is where I found the teachings of Guruji, Paramahansa Yogananda. And I remember where I was, I’m getting goosebumps now. I was standing in this bookstore, Philip and Rishikesh.
And I opened up this little blue book and he was talking about oneness, oneness. And I was like, you what’s he talking about? But I was feeling all this energy inside of me. Like there’s something going on here. And then when I read Autobiography of a Yogi, there was all these footnotes that the editor had added later that were referencing quantum physics, right? So there’s this, these modern demonstrations, these real scientific studies. And I know you’ve done a lot of research to fill up that are really
backing up, which maybe we weren’t necessarily taught in school, but really is how the universe works, where there’s energy. There’s one big giant energy field, and then there’s smaller fields within the big field.
Philipp VHF (04:07.033)
100%. I mean, in school we’re taught all the things that we need to function in a job. And we’re not taught any of the things that are really relevant to life and that are basis of life. And so we need to learn that. We need to discover that on our own in a way. And indeed we’re all connected, right? So there is only consciousness.
There’s only or call it super consciousness. Some people call it God, whatever you want to call it, doesn’t matter, universe. But it’s all one. And we are all aspects of that. But at core we’re all connected. And we’re also connected always to this super consciousness. It’s never lost. What we lose is the conscious awareness of it.
Kimberly Snyder (04:44.224)
Yeah.
Kimberly Snyder (05:04.427)
Great.
Philipp VHF (05:04.509)
And that is what we need to come back to, right? And then, you know, you and I, we, and others, we find it through yoga, through meditation, through all these different ways. And it’s great because right now is a phenomenal time for humanity where more and more people are waking up to this basic truth, frankly, that we’re energy and frequency at core. And then of course you have things like quantum
physics that talks about that. But I mean, there have been other people that had even a way better and deeper understanding like Nikola Tesla, for example, because frankly, the model really is not really the quantum mechanics model because they still assume, most people don’t know that, but they assume that the particle, a physical particle is the smallest thing there is.
That’s not true though, it’s energy because there’s always energy is the fundamental layer of everything. Nikola Tesla, for example, and Boscovic and others, they had fully understood that and they had also real inventions going with that because once you understand that there’s the ether, you can pretty much pull things from the ether if you know how to do it. That’s also pretty much, yeah, go ahead.
Kimberly Snyder (06:05.591)
Right.
Kimberly Snyder (06:27.306)
Yeah, well, more subtle, you we can talk about the light, right, and the frequencies of light and the light that we can’t even see, you know, because spiritually there’s so much around, you know, the light of God, of spirit. You had these images, the sacred heart of Jesus Christ and sort of this light coming out of the heart. I know, Phillip, so I think that as we open up to this, I know for me there’s this humbling in that we don’t
know everything, we don’t see everything, right? Because I know a lot of people will talk about, this isn’t measurable. Or atheists will say, well, you can’t prove this. Well, beyond human comprehension, not everything can be measured by the instruments that have been made by the limited human mind. And yet, there’s some amazing research out there. And I want to talk about this to ground it into what’s practical, what we can understand.
So I’ll start by saying, you know, there’s this big field, right? There’s the oneness. And then there’s more of our inner individual personal energy fields. And how we care for our fields is a fundamental aspect of our energy and our health and our wellness and our what I call true beauty, this radiance that comes from your creative expression, our Shakti, right? Our authenticity. And it can get dampened down by many ways and ways that we don’t, that we don’t realize we don’t protect ourselves.
So when I was doing the research with HeartMath fellow, for instance, around the heart field, there is one field, but yet our hearts are extending out from our bodies and they’re affecting other people. So that’s just one example. And then what’s interesting in your career is you worked for T-Mobile, right? And so we all have these phones and we don’t see these EMFs or these electromagnetic frequencies that are coming in, but it’s part of the modern world. It’s part of the greater field.
and it can have a more localized effect on our bodies. Can you talk a little bit about the greater field and then the personal energy fields?
Philipp VHF (08:29.943)
Yeah, so the greater field, you could call it the quantum field really. That is the base layer, lowest or the highest level of energy, however you want to look at it. It doesn’t really matter, but there’s nothing beyond that. And within the quantum field, all the frequencies exist. Literally everything exists, but especially all the frequencies, whether it’s a vitamin C frequency, which would be a molecular frequency, a sound frequency,
the love frequency, then you can have all kinds of different etheric frequencies. know, this scalar frequencies would also be a frequency band. So all that exists within the quantum field. Now, then there’s also different dimensions, right? So it gets a little tricky there to talk about all that with just words because that’s always so limited. However,
Kimberly Snyder (09:24.61)
Thank you.
Philipp VHF (09:25.923)
To understand we’re in this 3D reality, right? So we perceive with our senses to touch, to see, we live in this world and that’s how we operate in it. But the higher sense is what we can sense without our physical senses. We, for example, if we go into restaurant and we pay attention, we could notice that
over there is, for example, a table where there’s tension, even though they may not speak at the moment. And then somewhere else you feel there’s love because maybe there’s two people that just met and fell in love and they don’t need to speak, but you can feel it. So that’s how everyone can understand. We can feel these energies. And the same is true with electromagnetic fields, for example. Most people can’t really feel it, but also that part of is
Kimberly Snyder (10:00.238)
yeah!
Philipp VHF (10:23.779)
We’re not really trained to do that and we’re so caught up in the five senses and that we don’t pay attention and it’s time to train that muscle again. And that’s how that relates.
Kimberly Snyder (10:26.336)
Right.
Kimberly Snyder (10:36.83)
Yeah, I know what you mean. Well, you know how you said you can feel someone’s vibe and sometimes people say, well, I can’t feel it. I think our intuition can naturally be developed through the heart coherence and even tuning in, starting to turn these neurons in, turn these neurons on and getting out of the head. All the thoughts are into quiet the mind and it is a practice. And so I feel like the more
Let’s talk about resilience for a moment because some people start to read about 5G, like all the stuff that’s out there and it’s easy to, on the other hand, start to feel powerless and say, well, the world’s so toxic. Like I can’t eat anything. not, you know, I can’t go anywhere. There’s EMS going on all the time. I’ve held these devices. So can we talk a little bit about, of course, your personal energy, heart coherence?
meditation, we can do these practices, which is really powerful for our energy. But what are some of the ways when we do live, like even as we’re sitting here talking, surrounded by the cell phone towers and devices and all sorts of things.
Philipp VHF (11:44.227)
So I always advise people to be and become aware of these things, but to not get into fear at all. Because if I become aware of all the toxicity out there, that’s in the food, that’s in the air, that’s in the water, that’s in the clouds, that’s in the electromagnetic fields everywhere.
Kimberly Snyder (11:51.649)
Yeah.
Kimberly Snyder (12:06.538)
It’s in the clothing. It’s every…
Philipp VHF (12:08.075)
It’s even in the clothing, you’re totally right. Frequencies in clothing and even toxic chemicals in clothing. All of that then, I should not get into fear. I should rather be just aware and know I can harmonize and neutralize that somehow. There’s always ways to deal with that and to be stronger. And those methods are out there and definitely…
Kimberly Snyder (12:16.673)
Yeah.
Philipp VHF (12:36.557)
You know, one of the methods really is to keep working on raising our own vibration because that is the most important thing to be doing anyway in life. It’s not to accumulate wealth or whatever. It’s really to raise your own vibration, not in comparison to others, but just for yourself. And that’s already a big step. And then of course you will bump into
solutions that can help you on various levels, right? Maybe you have a great water filter that you can use for dealing with water. Maybe you bump into our technology that helps you with a lot of other things, including EMFs and so on and so on. But don’t come from a place of fear because that puts us in a low vibration. then we actually call that in, right? Then actually it gets worse through the fear.
Kimberly Snyder (13:20.098)
Right.
Kimberly Snyder (13:30.486)
Well, and what’s really powerful, all of this is there’s so much research around all of this. And I love where the research meets the consciousness, Philip, right? Because so many people, the discerning mind, it helps to actually see the documented research for us to truly believe. back to the heart and raising vibrate, like being in the heart-based emotions, love, compassion, care.
been documented by some of the heart math research, for instance, to reduce cortisol and to increase DHEA. So I love the research, Philip. I really do as well. And so I tend to talk about some of that research for a long time in my new book, The Hidden Power of the Five Hearts. But then I came across some of your technology, which I found really interesting for several reasons. Number one, the idea of a quantum field is really
Fascinating to me. Number two, one of my favorite authors of all time is Dr. David Hawkins. And when my mom passed away, Letting Go was such a, just something I leaned on. I think I read that book 14 times in a row. whenever anyone’s going through grief, I really recommend that book. There’s a whole grief section and then just this idea of.
getting out of the head and it is heart-based, right? It’s just this consciousness, letting go, letting go. Anyways, I also love Power versus Force and he has this calibration scale for, I’m not sure explaining it right, but anyways, I know that your technology has been tested with the Hawkins scale. So when I saw that, I saw that’s really interesting. Maybe I’ll pause there and then I wanna talk about this one study on wound healing.
Philipp VHF (15:18.265)
Sure. So Hawkins absolutely did some amazing work about 20 years ago when he wrote those books and he came up with this consciousness scale, right? Where he figured out, okay, so on the low ends of the scale, you have states like anger, shame, guilt, fear. Those are low vibrational states. And if people live in these states,
Kimberly Snyder (15:19.234)
Hopkins, we share the love, I’m sure.
Kimberly Snyder (15:28.981)
Yeah.
Philipp VHF (15:46.521)
predominantly, then that is what they find in their life. Right? That’s really, you know, they would have that in their life. Then you can move up the ladder, the consciousness ladder basically to let’s say the level of reason. Then it goes to level 500, which is unconditional love. Level 540, which is joy. And then you get into the enlightenment zone and yeah, exactly. And then you vibrate and vibrate higher and then
Kimberly Snyder (15:50.271)
Yes.
Kimberly Snyder (16:09.558)
He’s, yeah, enlightenment.
Philipp VHF (16:16.077)
That’s how this reality works, right? That’s what most people still haven’t understood. They want, let’s say, peace in their life, okay? But if they can’t vibrate in peace and if they have war inside, you know, that means a lot of anger, a lot of like internal fighting, they…
Kimberly Snyder (16:35.948)
We say incoherence to that word too, Philip.
Philipp VHF (16:38.807)
Yeah, exactly. Then you know, you won’t find it in the outside of your life. So it always starts with us. And if we can raise our vibration to these states, we become attractor fields. That’s also what Hawkins talked about. Call that in and it just naturally happens. But it happens like that, not because I want this day to happen in my life. That’s not because it happens, it becomes because I change my own vibration.
Kimberly Snyder (16:53.984)
Yes.
Philipp VHF (17:08.225)
And then I can invite that in.
Kimberly Snyder (17:10.572)
Well, frequencies match up, right? It’s like birds of a feather flock together. Even in the heart level, when we’re more coherent, it’s like people come to you or synchronicities fill up. It’s like, what are you working on? I’d love to know, or I’d love to ask you out on a date. I don’t know what it is, but I’m really drawn to you. It just becomes magnetic versus that friction you’re describing is very repellent. No matter what we say, energy doesn’t lie. It’s read and registered.
Philipp VHF (17:40.889)
100%. Yeah. so he has this with a scale, it’s a good reference point, right? For people to say, okay, so where on the Hawkins scale does a particular product vibrate? so the way we started actually was with just putting up products that work and we didn’t advertise at all for years. And people would just try the products.
And then they would tell others about it it works. And you can then calibrate the blocks, for example. I don’t know. This is for example.
Kimberly Snyder (18:18.87)
What do you mean by works? Like people feel better? Is it experiential? They have more energy?
Philipp VHF (18:27.849)
Yep. I mean, there’s a big bandwidth of benefits that people talk about and experience. One is more energy. One is feel more balanced. One is being able to tune in more with your own inner power to recover faster. Those things, for example.
Kimberly Snyder (18:50.626)
Yeah, wait, so slow down, Phil, people don’t know what we’re talking about. So first of all, you worked in T-Mobile. So you were, were you aware of these fields that were potentially biologically disrupting other people’s bodies at the time, or were you not even tuned into the quantum field yet?
Philipp VHF (19:08.345)
It’s a good question. So I was aware that there were electromagnetic fields, but at that time it wasn’t a big topic there. It wasn’t that we wanted to not talk about it or something. was, we didn’t have enough information about it. It was just, and people didn’t make a big deal out of that either. It was really something that wasn’t really talked about much and there wasn’t much knowledge. Now that has changed. You I left T-Mobile already.
Kimberly Snyder (19:31.904)
Okay.
Philipp VHF (19:38.473)
my God. mean, it’s 12 years ago probably, right? So, and during the last 12 years, a lot of things have happened. So it’s become way more obvious and there’s so much more research out there that at some point things will have to change because the research is just so overwhelming. There’s maybe 70 % of the industry funded studies that show that there’s
Kimberly Snyder (19:46.4)
Yes.
Philipp VHF (20:06.389)
no negative effects. And then there are over a thousand independent peer reviewed studies that all show that there are harmful effects and those harmful effects are there long-term, mid-term and short-term. And frankly, it is a lie if someone says electromagnetic fields don’t have a negative impact on the human body and biofield. It just is a fact.
that that is the case and can be proven in court everywhere just with very simple testing methods because already within a few minutes you can see and prove that the blood starts to clot. And you can certainly then go into more midterm and longterm effects as well that impact fertility on the women’s health side, impact sperm count and quality in men.
Kimberly Snyder (21:02.731)
Yeah.
Philipp VHF (21:03.555)
go even into the C word disease, That is a more long-term effect, all these things. I just want to make sure that I’m not misunderstood. I’m not in the camp of saying we should tear down all the 5G towers because first of all, it’s not going to happen anyway. There is a lot of convenience, right? We can have this conversation and who wants to miss that? It’s just not going to happen. The solution should be again,
Kimberly Snyder (21:06.709)
Yeah.
Kimberly Snyder (21:18.05)
It’s the world we live in, yeah.
Philipp VHF (21:31.969)
Let’s be aware of it. Let’s talk about it and not make it not censor the topic or ignore that there is an issue, but let’s talk about real solutions, how we can have it without the downsides. And that is where our technology comes in because that’s where it’s really powerful. You don’t have to wear tinfoil hats and wrap yourself in aluminum foil in order to be protected. can, yeah, literally you can have
Kimberly Snyder (21:42.26)
Yes.
Philipp VHF (22:01.015)
One of those blocks, for example, sitting in your office or at home and you don’t need to worry about it. And you have cell phone signals and everything, but there’s no issue because on a below subatomic level, you can work with quantum energy or specific frequencies in order to harmonize these electromagnetic fields that formerly may have been disruptive to your energy system and body.
No, they’re not disruptive. I always give the analogy of if you hit me in the face, it hurts. But if you give me an acupressure on the neck, it’s beneficial. And that’s sort of what can happen.
Kimberly Snyder (22:40.0)
Yeah. So, so let’s, let’s break that down a little bit, Philip, right? Like I know using these analogies, cause we’ve been talking about them so much in the community. When I do my heart align, my heart aligned meditation, right? It’s getting coherent. There’s a measurable effect. We did a study where people’s, you know, coherence, their heart, brain communication, their nervous systems, immunity goes up, cortisol goes down. All these amazing things happen because everything’s energy, right? It’s just that the body tends or happens to be more dense.
but all these things like the EMFs are affecting us. So I was reading some of your research and one of the things that was really interesting was about how the healing rate of wounds showed. You know, there’s different studies I’m reading here, but this was with Dr. Robert Shea from the PhD, the University of Tulsa. It was…
Enhancements from 45.8 % to 79.2%, right? So wound healing is obviously the body’s ability to regenerate and heal from a trauma. So, I mean, this is fascinating and you have a wearable technology that goes on your heart, interestingly enough, and then you have this block where you can put glasses of water and things in it.
I mean, it’s hard to explain in layman’s term, but where did you even come up with this technology? And then there’s so much research here. There’s one showing that ATP levels can increase by 20 to 29%. There’s one about neutralizing the electromagnetic stress factors and one is harmonizing environmental stress factors. So these are all double blind studies, universities, like there’s a lot of research here.
The science person in me says, well, where did this technology come from? And how did you go from T-Mobile to harnessing this research? We know this to be true. We know there’s a quantum field. We know there’s quantum physics. Let’s start there. It’s fascinating.
Philipp VHF (24:45.209)
So in the early 2000s, I was at a pretty unhappy place in my life. And I realized that I had cut myself off my own emotions and feelings, and I discredited my own intuition as well as the intuition in others. And so I was just rational, basically. And, I was very unhappy in my life. And then that was the trigger for me. said, well, I want to be happy in my life. So I need to discover how I can be happy and sort of.
Kimberly Snyder (25:02.551)
Right.
Philipp VHF (25:14.857)
find myself again, right? That was for me the start into this journey. I started with yoga, with meditation. I read about these things. No, at that time I had been in the US already for about a year in between, but I was back in Germany then. And then I got more curious and then I tried to find some of the best healers in the world.
Kimberly Snyder (25:23.01)
And you’re in Germany or were you in America?
Kimberly Snyder (25:32.834)
Okay.
Philipp VHF (25:42.975)
I learned from them. So I went through shamanic healing trainings, learned past life regression work, various other energy healing techniques. And then when I met my…
Kimberly Snyder (25:54.058)
can I ask you a personal question? you, were you, you say shaman, some of us, were you taking, were you trying any medicines?
Philipp VHF (26:01.695)
Nope, no medicines. Yep. you know, mean, nowadays I have broader experiences as far as that goes. Also with Bufo, 5-Meo DMT, which I actually facilitate in a retreat in Costa Rica. Every now and then it’s just for me, just a service to do that every now and then, but nothing on a regular basis and also not in the US, but…
Kimberly Snyder (26:03.212)
Just all energy work.
Kimberly Snyder (26:13.344)
Yeah.
Philipp VHF (26:30.073)
During that time, it wasn’t really plant medicine. It was really just energy and getting in contact with my own inner power. And that’s really where I went in. And then I met my wife in 2005, who never had lost this conscious connection to the divine. And she could see all these things and the auras and everything, which then catapulted me even further.
Kimberly Snyder (26:49.026)
Mm.
Philipp VHF (26:59.641)
to understanding this world. So I did all that during my business career, right, in parallel. But in business, you can’t show up in a board meeting and then talk about, you know, my heart is now saying we should do that, or my intuition is telling me this, or even talk about energy in general, right? It’s just that it doesn’t have a place. And so…
Kimberly Snyder (27:21.365)
Yeah.
Philipp VHF (27:24.505)
So at some point in 2016, I was done with corporate, not with the bad feeling or anything. think it taught me a lot and it was great to be there, but I had to literally live from the heart as of that point. And I didn’t have a plan of what it was that I wanted to create, but I just knew and felt I’m here to create something. And then when I made that decision,
That’s how it usually is. If you follow the right path, suddenly those things just show up and that’s ultimately how it happened. that’s the last piece to it. I had found my passion in between because my wife had been diagnosed with chronic Lyme disease. I always wanted to find the next best thing to help her. She is completely healed by the way, nothing left. Even doctors said, you can’t heal it. Yeah, yes you can, it turns out. And so that was my passion.
Kimberly Snyder (27:54.721)
Yeah.
Kimberly Snyder (28:17.332)
It seems so common now. Seems like a lot of people have Lyme disease.
Philipp VHF (28:19.799)
Yeah, it’s quite common. And parasites, right? Which is sort of the same thing anyway. They’re very similar, but yeah, there’s almost no one that doesn’t have anything, right, nowadays. So that’s the toxic world we live in, but we’re all called to, you know, take our health and wellbeing into our own hands, right? And the way the people that do it, they can thrive, right?
Kimberly Snyder (28:30.924)
Sure.
Kimberly Snyder (28:39.916)
Yeah
Kimberly Snyder (28:43.49)
it’s amazing, Philip, right? We can, it really is a choice. And I think about how I used to live. So up in my head, always planning for the future because underneath you start to unpack, why am I so future-based to try to control, to try to be safe, right? To try to feel okay. didn’t have trauma from my childhood. I didn’t feel like safe or neglect, abandonment, whatever it was. So then when you start to realize and then you can come into the heart, you’re like,
Such a different perception, a different experience, a different energy. Like this is such a different moment, right? And it is the levels of consciousness, which again, back to Hawkins, when I started reading those books and also Paramahansa Yogananda, as we realize realities upon realities. So the spiritual work, you know, it sounds like for both of us, so foundational. But then I say, and, right, and I still want to eat organic food and I use an air filter.
So back to the technology, which is practical because you can keep it around. then you opened up. then did you find, did you pair research scientists or like how did you then start to create actual products to support people’s energy fields?
Philipp VHF (29:59.565)
Yeah, so the vision really came about to have products that can mimic what some of the best healers in the world can do because every healer, if they do work with you or anyone else, they work with the quantum field and they work with specific frequencies. Even the shaman, for example, would use the drum and the way they do that is the drum in a way that you get into different frequency state, right? And then you can…
Kimberly Snyder (30:15.765)
Yes.
Philipp VHF (30:28.215)
tune in into different dimensions, even, or different parts of yourself, right? And get there, get into a journey that way. So that was the idea. And so through some of the best healers that I’ve found throughout my own healing journey, and then a couple amazing scientists, we came together and basically developed this technology, which is indeed the breakthrough was
to find a method and a way to harness and concentrate this pure natural quantum energy so that it can be made available in this reality. So that you don’t have to know how can I access the ether in a way to pull all that in and to do all these things because no one knows how to do that anyway.
Kimberly Snyder (31:23.04)
Well, yeah, mean, there’s be it’s beyond our pay grade, right? But but
Philipp VHF (31:26.403)
Well, yet, yeah, but hopefully in 10 years, our current products are obsolete and people can do that on their own. But right now we need assistance, right? That’s kind of what we need and that’s what it really helps with because these blocks, for example, they vibrate higher on the Hawkins scale than any other products on earth.
Kimberly Snyder (31:30.014)
Yeah.
Kimberly Snyder (31:49.196)
I read that and that was what really caught my eye because anyone that’s read a Hawkins book realize he’s writing from a very different place and he was an MD, psychiatrist, PhD, all these, as scientific as you could become. And then he had this experience, you know, where he, you know, he went into oneness in New York city. He had all these different clinics. He was one of the most popular psychiatrists in the city and he literally had to go.
into the woods for I think four years before he could like start writing about it or speaking about it was such an amazing experience. actually was able to witness consciously this energy. So I know we don’t understand everything, but I know for myself, experientially, when I touch something that changes me, right? Like the heart align work and the med, like the coherence and the meditations felt has changed me.
the Kriya yoga going in your spine has changed me, like the Hawkins work. So I started wearing your necklace. I don’t know, it’s the Hue. The instilling capsule, and I am very, very intuitive. And I was wearing it on my walk yesterday, actually. I was like, wow, like it feels calming. You know, there’s something to it. And so I just became really curious about this technology because you’re not charging it, right?
Philipp VHF (32:50.583)
The heel capsule, we call it the heel capsule.
Kimberly Snyder (33:11.52)
I wear a red light mask. sent me a mask that’s good for your skin. You charge it, right? You charge your cell phone. How are your products holding frequency without being charged?
Philipp VHF (33:23.529)
Yeah, it’s a good question and it wouldn’t even work if you charged it. So that’s the most important thing to understand because the quantum field is not physical, right? It’s energetic. If you use electricity, that is physical. so if you added electricity or magnetism, for example, into the blocks, it wouldn’t work. would act
Kimberly Snyder (33:39.594)
Yeah, it’s too dense.
Philipp VHF (33:52.193)
actually add a stressor to the field and then subsequently also stressor to the human body. It’s not when you have electricity outside of the block somewhere or magnets, that does not matter at all, but within the field you shouldn’t have magnets or electricity. So your cells, for example, carry the very same energy that is in these blocks because it’s pure natural quantum energy. It’s nothing artificial.
And we’re not plugged in either, right? So this energy is always there. And we just found a method on how to concentrate it, for example, in metal plates or in this capsule. it literally, this capsule has a field that’s maybe two meters, like six feet, six, seven, eight feet wide. That’s the field. And then it’s charged with specific frequencies.
And so the frequencies are then basically carried by the quantum energy into this field so that your system can always leverage these frequencies and what it all
Kimberly Snyder (35:02.216)
It’s like a tuned, it’s like a tune, like a tuning fork sort of. I mean, on a very, yeah, on a low, but is it, is it Philip, is it, is it working with shapes or sacred geometry or how are you charging how the metals are? Cause the block that, if anyone’s watching this on YouTube, can you hold it up for a second? So it’s like, these are metals, right? We’re talking about things that are metal shapes. So how is the charge frequency going into the metal?
Philipp VHF (35:05.953)
Yup, yup, in a way.
Philipp VHF (35:31.959)
Yeah, the original… Well, so I won’t because indeed the original charging method is what we don’t share. That’s proprietary. And for people that say, proprietary, you should just tell us, like, no, I don’t. Because that was a lot of hard work to figure this out. And we make already the extension of our technology available because frankly, with one of these blocks, you can charge products yourself.
Kimberly Snyder (35:32.63)
without giving away all your secrets.
Kimberly Snyder (35:41.025)
Yeah.
Kimberly Snyder (35:49.898)
Yeah.
Philipp VHF (36:01.535)
You can, for example, take… Because maybe we should talk about what can the block actually do. There’s a few things. It can just harmonize and EMF. So it neutralizes 100 % of the negative effects of EMF, at least visible through all the different studies that were done. And you don’t need to do anything with it. Now, then you can put your hands inside your feet, your whatever, it doesn’t really matter. And it has a…
effect that’s positive on your blood, on your heart rate variability.
Kimberly Snyder (36:33.922)
for how long, how long do you, like for this wound healing, right? This was using the block. How long do you put your wound inside the block? That was what.
Philipp VHF (36:39.214)
Mm-hmm.
Philipp VHF (36:42.923)
It actually, yeah. So the acceleration of wound healing or mitochondrial function or cell recovery, all of that together basically happens almost instantly. The moment you put in your hands, let’s give it maybe 10, 15 seconds, then already it starts. And if you measure, for example, a minute after, two minutes after, do I already have a faster rate of ATP production?
a better rate, then you can measure that already. And then in this experiment or in these studies regarding ATP production, they measured it, I think, every five or 10 minutes.
Kimberly Snyder (37:25.314)
You should make a whole body lunch box. Like a sauna, your body goes in it.
Philipp VHF (37:28.057)
Well then…
Philipp VHF (37:32.343)
Yep. mean, we thought about that, but then we figured also out that if you put your hands inside, your whole body benefits from it, which is due to the fact that all the cells have a quantum field. So if I put my hands inside, it’s almost as if I’m inside this thing completely, if that makes sense. it’s not really needed. Yeah.
Kimberly Snyder (37:54.868)
because it transfers through. It’s informational.
It would probably be inaccessible for people. Everybody has space for a chamber.
Philipp VHF (38:06.733)
Yeah, and maybe we do that at some point and combine it with some other interesting ways, but for now it’s just smaller. again, it’s enough. Actually, you already have a benefit if you’re just near it. Then you already have a benefit. It works faster and greater if you then even put your hands inside or your feet, for example. But again, it has all these benefits then on the body, but it doesn’t stop there.
you can put water inside or foods and energize them, which is kind of like fluffy now. And I say it on purpose. Now I’m getting into the science. You can show and the Emoto Institute out of Japan, for example, proved that our blocks can improve water faster than any other method they’d ever tested before. Because what it does, it basically creates primal water, primal spring water.
out of water you put in energetically. They can measure the controlled water and they see one beautiful crystal. Then they put the water into one of our blocks and within just a couple minutes or three minutes they have five beautiful crystals. If people have heard of Masaru Emoto’s work, then you know what that means. It’s quite powerful because then the body can really leverage this water.
Kimberly Snyder (39:33.282)
So I had his book, Philip, and it was amazing. And I remember when it came out. And then some people criticized the science, and I don’t know what that was.
Philipp VHF (39:42.657)
I could tell you more about that.
Kimberly Snyder (39:44.354)
Tell me what about it, because it was really powerful for anyone. There was like, he would write love on it or, you know, we say H word in our family. Me and my kids don’t say H-A-T-E, right? Because the vibration is so strong. So there’s certain words that we don’t say in our house. We don’t say S, we don’t say shame. We don’t say H word. But he wrote it on the water and it changed it. And it was so powerful. My mom was super into it. And then I heard
Philipp VHF (39:56.375)
huh.
Kimberly Snyder (40:10.935)
And I don’t know what it was, but some people criticized the research, but some people were really into it. So tell us, what happened?
Philipp VHF (40:16.619)
Yeah. So you have always some people that critic criticized things like that because they don’t want it to be true or, know, maybe their point of view is being threatened, right? Or it’s a narrative that needs to be, defended. So it works. Whatever they’re doing and showing it works. It’s, it’s, it’s absolutely proven. You can argue, for example, that, well, they should have done more randomized.
Kimberly Snyder (40:20.652)
Sure.
Kimberly Snyder (40:28.309)
Yeah.
Kimberly Snyder (40:36.192)
Yeah.
Philipp VHF (40:46.841)
double-blind studies and things like that and I would say yes, that’s true. Of course, this whole thing could be even more scientific. But you know, there’s always additional things you can do. It’s still a great method to test and our technology in regards to water has been tested also in other ways. For example, a chemist in Germany ran
Kimberly Snyder (41:08.407)
Hmm.
Philipp VHF (41:16.305)
a redox potential test with our blogs and with water. Now that’s very black and white, right? It’s basically a scientific instrument and you measure with a stable solution, you measure the redox potential. It’s not so important what the redox potential really is. You can read about it on Google, everyone out there, but they show that it…
changed after the water was in the block. It always changed. I think they repeated it 10 or 12 times on different days and it always changed quite significantly. There’s all kinds of different ways on how you can spin it and you always find that it works in 100 % of the cases.
Kimberly Snyder (42:05.132)
So you can use it forever. And the little balls in the necklace, the necklace you put in the balls, you can’t just use this piece of metal. You need the little.
Philipp VHF (42:14.645)
You can use the necklace without the titanium beads, then it’s not as powerful. But the beads are charged with just pure quantum energy and they have a lot of mass and hold a lot of quantum energy actually. And if you put the beads inside the capsule, the field is bigger. So that is basically the idea around the beads.
Kimberly Snyder (42:37.726)
Okay, well it’s
Philipp VHF (42:39.019)
And I don’t know if you know this, but there’s the most important vitamins and minerals for the human body are imprinted in the capsule.
Kimberly Snyder (42:49.698)
So, and this may sound a little bit out there for people, but there’s been documented stories about breatharians and people that aren’t actually eating, but to your point, they’re pulling nutrients from the air, from the ether. There’s many yogis over the history. There was Therese Neumann from Germany. I don’t know if you know her, Philip or know of her, but she was written about in an autobiography of a yogi.
We know that Nanda, she didn’t eat for like 40 years, documented, and she got the stigmata, so was getting from her hands, reliving the crucifixion. So anyways, there’s all these stories about people not eating and getting the frequency of nutrients, which can sound like bananas for some people, but back to the quantum field where everything, could see the Akashic records, like all the ways in which you could tap into certain things. So you’re
imprinting somehow in your technology the frequency of nutrients into the metal. And so someone doesn’t even have to be like, let’s someone doesn’t meditate that much, right? Or they’re very an angry person. Will they still benefit from this technology? The frequency is actually helping their field.
Philipp VHF (43:55.171)
Correct, yes.
Philipp VHF (44:08.057)
100%. So you don’t need to, because also the studies were done in a placebo controlled environment, right? I mean, not all of the studies, but over 48 studies were placebo controlled, which is quite a bit. And you don’t have to believe in it for it to work. So it works. And whether you’re an angry person or you’re a loving person or you’re very high on the Hawkins scale, we have hundreds of healers actually that user attack because it still helps and amplifies their work.
But then you have people that are very low on the Hawkins scale. For them it’s also great. It picks you up where you are basically. That’s what it does.
Kimberly Snyder (44:47.146)
Amazing, amazing, Philip. So thank you so much for being here with us today. And I just want to say for anyone who wants to check out this research, which I find really fascinating as well, in the show notes over at mysaloon.com, we will link to these studies if you’re interested in the environmental stressors one I have on my computer and the wound healing one and the ATP production, because we all want to be healthy. know, Philip, obviously, we want to feel
We want to feel fulfilled. We want to feel loved and loving and in our vitality. And so it’s all these ands that I’m really curious about today, know, clean water and heart aligned meditation and love and, you know, helping to protect ourselves against EMFs. So thank you again so much, Philip, for sharing some of your wisdom and your knowledge. Where can we find out more about your work?
and read more or learn more for anyone who’s interested.
Philipp VHF (45:51.255)
Yeah, thanks so much for having me on. so lilaq.com, L-E-E-L-A-Q.com would be the website where you can take a look, where you can read a little bit about it. And then you can find somewhere a Telegram icon, you know, where you find the social buttons for Instagram and all of that. Look for the Telegram icon if you’re interested, because it links to the private Telegram group that we have. It’s called the Quantum Power Group. You cannot find it on Telegram because it’s private. We don’t want any bots or…
Kimberly Snyder (46:16.331)
cool.
Philipp VHF (46:20.962)
people that are not related to this. And there’s about 8,000 people in there that use this technology and that can answer any question you may have and you can ask them what they have experienced and you can read about this topic. It’s a high vibe community. So anyone that wants to just learn a little bit more, go there.
Kimberly Snyder (46:40.502)
super cool. Thank you so much, Philip. It’s been a real pleasure chatting with you. And thank you so much, everyone, for tuning in. We will have links to all of this on the show notes once again at mysaloon.com. And you can also ask questions for our Q &A show there. You’ll see the tab. And we’ll be back here Thursday, as always, for our next Q &A show. Till then, take great care and sending you much love.
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