Overcoming Adversity to Create Success with Olympian Morgan Mitchell [Episode #637]

This week’s topic is: Overcoming Adversity to Create Success with Olympian Morgan Mitchell

I am so excited to have my very special guest, Morgan Mitchell, who is an Australian Olympian and 3 time National Champion who specializes in the 400m and 800m. Listen in as Morgan shares her personal journey in overcoming adversity, being vegan as an Olympian athlete, go-to tools for staying grounded, and how she moved through trauma and learned to let go.

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• Morgan’s experience being part of The Game Changers documentary…
• Incorporating plant-based eating into her lifestyle…
• When your plant-based lifestyle is challenged…
• Going beyond labels and connecting to the true self…
• Go-to tools for staying grounded and present…
• The skill of letting go…
• Turning your greatest obstacles into your greatest strengths…

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About Morgan Mitchell 

Morgan Mitchell is an Australian Olympian and 3 time National Champion who specialises in the 400m and 800m. She is also a global F45 Training athlete, and a global ambassador for One Spa World’s Women in Wellness. Throughout her career, she has been captured in Vogue and Harpers Bazaar and she has been plant based for the past 8 years, and featured on the Netflix Documentary- The Game Changers.

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Kimberly: 00:00 Hi Beauties. Welcome back to our Monday interview podcast. I am so excited for our very special guest today. Her name is Morgan Mitchell. She is an Australian Olympian, a three time national champion who specializes in the 400 meter and the 800 meter events. She is in the documentary game changers for anyone who has seen this amazing documentary. She is the gorgeous woman running the beginning of the movie or partway through, but I think it’s towards the beginning of the movie. She is a global [inaudible] training athlete. She’s a global ambassador for one spa worlds, women in wellness, which is how I met Morgan personally, as I’m also a one spa world women in wellness ambassador doing the meditations now on board cruise ships and in different avenues like that. And when I met Morgan, we were put together at lunch and we just became fast friends.

Kimberly: 01:00 She’s so funny. She’s so authentic. She’s such a big heart. She’s wonderful. She’s also plant-based of course, because she’s in the movie green game-changers and she, um, as we get into today, she just is so compassionate and loving and humble, and I adore her. So we get into today just about, um, talking about all sorts of things. Performance, confidence, love moving out of adversity and so on. So I cannot wait to get into our show today with the beautiful inside and out Ms. Morgan.

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Kimberly: 03:07 And finally, before we get into our interview with Morgan, I just want to mention at the top of our show that we are now, pre-selling my new book. You Are More More Than You Think You Are – Practical Enlightenment For Everyday Life. So please be sure to check it out today and start reading some of the chapters today. We have some amazing limited time bonuses that I want to share with you, including our beyond fear course and alive looped event. So check it all out@mysoluna.com and you can get the book right now, wherever books are sold, including Amazon Barnes and noble and so on. All right. All of that being said, let’s get into our interview today with the amazing Morgan Mitchell.

Interview with Morgan Mitchell

Kimberly: 00:01 Oh, my God. I’m so excited that this worked out, that you’re here in my little pod room,

Morgan: 00:07 Honestly, amazing place. I’m so happy to be here to panga. Everyone needs to visit.

Kimberly: 00:13 Oh my God. I um, so we just met on the cruise ship. We’re doing this wellness program and it was like, I mean, I just felt like instantly connected to

Morgan: 00:26 Yeah, no, I think like we were saying energies attract energies, you know what I mean? Like good, bad, whatever you really like, you really picked up on it from the get go. Oh yeah. And I met you. And I was like, yep. Kimberly’s my girl.

Kimberly: 00:40 I felt the same thing about you. And then the Mo the cutest thing was Moses fell in love with, he was like globally, I did dinner. He would just stare at Morgan. And he is also, I feel like a very sensitive child to energy. He doesn’t just go to everybody, but the people he goes to, he loves like [inaudible].

Kimberly: 01:04 So it was, it was funny because we were, um, first of all, I didn’t, you know, I knew that you weren’t Olympian, but I didn’t know, like all the ins and outs about you. And then we were sitting at lunch and we were sitting next to each other, and then Gordon, who was running the program for us. He was like, kind of looked over. And he was like, oh, look at all the plant-based options. And I turned to you and I was like, Morgan, you, you plant-based Cho. And you’re like, yeah. Yeah. And I go, Hey, Hey, have you seen that documentary for game changers? And you were like, yeah. Um, and then it all started to click because Brendan Brazier has also been on the podcast. Who’s a dear friend triathlete. And then I remember you’re seeing, I mean, I get goosebumps it’s, um, you know, where you’re, you’re running, obviously, because you’re the Australian champion 400, 800 meter, just this most beautiful shot. And I mean, I don’t know how they kept up with you with a camera and it was on a crane, but it was, you know, I don’t know the documentary is like an hour and 15 minutes, but I feel like that was one of the most memorable parts because it was just, it was powerful. And of course you’re, you know, physically beautiful. And, um, so thank you for being part of that amazing documentary. Was it an amazing experience

Morgan’s experience being part of The Game Changers documentary

Morgan: 02:17 Back? It was definitely a highlight for sure, but I think the way it happened in Kemah, that was so organic. That’s what I loved is like, nothing was forced. It was completely up to me and my team, whether we wanted to do it or not the team we were working with, like Brendan and James and everyone was just, it was incredible. That was so nice. And for me, it was like, okay, I’ve worked on sets before with photo shoots and podcasts and small little documentaries here and there, but I hadn’t felt like that there was just so much love going around. And I think that’s what I loved is I’d only just met these people and they’re like, yeah, we’re going to do this, this, and this you’re our talent. We just want you to feel comfortable. And like, you know, we want to hear your story, your side of the story and how things go for you. And I was like, wow, like I’m 21 years old at the time. And just like, what is my life? Like, I was not expecting any of it. And then I think for me as well, when it did come out on Netflix, back in 2019, I was just so happy that they were happy. Cause I think the amount of work they put in, it was like whole, I don’t know if I can sweat. Holy moly. Holy.

Kimberly: 03:20 Yeah. Well, it was so well done. Incredible. It was, it was, you know, what I was impressed by was not only the footage, but also that they put the studies on the screen because I had been in a documentary a couple years earlier called what? The health. Yeah. And, you know, I thought it was great to KIPP has also come on the podcast that producer. Um, but it was a little bit like, you know, some of the studies, they, they weren’t there. So then people were like, oh, where did they pull this information? But game-changers was so powerful because it was like, look, national institutes of health, like this is this and here’s this. So it was, it was powerful. It changed a lot of people’s lives.

Morgan: 04:00 Yeah. A hundred percent. And I think that was the thing that I found so humbling as well is like, I knew it was a no brainer for me to go to a plant-based diet, but to see other people actually even just try it. Like I teed up, there was one moment in bed where I thought, you know, you have all these people, DM-ing you, and I’d never answer, but I just read them and think, oh my God, there are so many people out there that have been touched in some way from this documentary and want to at least give it a shot or they have converted fully. And for me it was like, not only have I done my part, but everyone that was a part of that team is a part of something much bigger than just a documentary on Netflix. Right?

Kimberly: 04:35 Oh gosh. I mean, it changes people’s lives. There’s that part too. Or, and I’ve seen it in my work too. People getting off medications, people, you know, really regulating their blood sugar levels, people having more energy, people, just having a better quality of life. So, um, you know, it, it was, it again, it was so powerful love. And I’m going to go back and watch the part with you again today in bed with my hubby, who you just met, which we’ll talk about that in a minute, but, um, cause I can go on tangents love, but I would love to hear your story first about getting to plant-based. Yeah, because I feel like it’s, it’s growing as a movement in some sports in America. I don’t know what it’s like in Australia where you’re from, like it’s becoming a trend, I think in basketball and football, but it’s, it’s certainly not the norm yet. Yeah,

Morgan: 05:21 Yeah. Yeah. So I went based back in 2014 just before Christmas and we all know Christmas time is like a time to just absolutely God. I told my mom and she just pause for a second and then she’s so chill. She’s like, okay, well it looks like I’m just cooking more veggies and anyone that knows my mom knows she’s just, she goes with the flow. Like she loves her kids and whatever we like want, she will try her hardest to provide for, even if she doesn’t see eye to eye. And she’s actually more into the plant-based lifestyle because of me as well. She’s more, I dunno, understanding of it. But um, yeah, so I told her it was actually my now like obviously now ex-boyfriend from way back when he was the one that got me into it,

Incorporating plant-based eating into her lifestyle

Kimberly: 06:05 He, he started sharing with you about the benefits. Was he an active?

Morgan: 06:08 So he was, he was a, an amateur athlete, but he was mostly like really into the gym, really into experimenting all different types of diets. But especially back in 20 13, 20 14, whenever like keto came out and you know, all of this high fat, low carb, high carb, low fat, like all these different diets were out. And he tried every single one I never wanted to, I’d never wanted to do it. I was just like, I’m not going to give into a diet because I’m 19 years old and I just want to live. Like, I don’t really, I just want to be a kid. Right. Then he one day walks in and he was like, babe, I’ll never forget this. I was like, babe, listen, just hear me out. I knew it was a diet. He was like, we need to go vegan right now.

Kimberly: 06:48 Well, that was his first

Morgan: 06:49 Sentence. Yeah. And I looked at him and I, I think, I don’t know, this is the only part I don’t remember. I’m like, did it just make sense in my heart at that time to just say yes immediately? Or did I say yes just to shut him up.

Kimberly: 07:02 But at that point, were you really into meat and cheese?

Morgan: 07:06 Incredibly intermittent. G oh, not so much chase, but me N O mostly just chicken actually. And I think that’s why I found it so easy because yes, I would eat so much chicken, but I knew I wasn’t into steak fish. Wasn’t really like my thing. So yeah, I just kind of was like, okay, let’s do it. And he was

Kimberly: 07:24 Just on the, before he gave you the explanation

Morgan: 07:26 And then, and he’s, he is amazing. Like, he was very good at like, he loves research and he loves finding out information. Cause he needs to know everything before he would try something. And so when he sat me down and we, you know, he took me through, it all started off with, okay, this is what it’s doing to the environment. And then he showed me a few of the like small YouTube snippets of like what happens to the animals and animal cruelty. And then you, you brought to tears and if you don’t cry, you don’t have a heart. I’m sorry. Totally. I was torn to pieces and I just said, all right, let’s just do this. Cause that is not okay. Like you can’t watch that and still continue to eat me. That’s where my mind was that I didn’t even think about track. I didn’t think about the benefits because again, I’m a kid and when you’re a child, not a child, but when you’re a young adult, you don’t really worried about performance or anything.

Morgan: 08:12 And then once I realized, okay, Commonwealth games are coming up, well, champs are coming up. Maybe I should say a dietician to actually help with, you know, my side of things like the physical benefits and yeah, sat down with a dietician. And it was quite funny because I instantly remanded just feeling lighter on the inside. I did not get sick anymore. I trained with eight. I had eight male training partners and every single session I rocked up, I was a hundred percent healthy and ready to go. Like my recovery is just so insane. So for me it was like, all right, well, my brain I’m helping the planet. I’m eating plant-based my body feels great. Let’s just keep going. Like it was so easy. Wow.

Kimberly: 08:49 So was the dietician you went to, did she specialize in plant based or was she, oh, some of them are like resolve resistant.

Morgan: 08:58 I don’t know what, like if you’ve dealt with this, but we had at the Institute, a dietician and the first thing I said was, okay, I need help. I’m going, I’m going plant-based I need, you know, a new meal plan that will obviously attain to that. And she, I remember she grilled me and I was heartbroken because it doesn’t matter whether you believe in it or not. If you’re the expert and if someone’s coming with you for, if they’re wanting help, you need to help them regardless. Like you need to check your ego at the window. And she was like, no, you know, this is going to happen. This is going to happen. You’re so stupid. Why would you do this

Kimberly: 09:30 Right now? And so misinformed

Morgan: 09:33 And me. Oh, when I was younger, I was so strong headed. So her saying all of this, I don’t know. I literally, I was like, go F yourself, but actually say, yourself. I’m out. Cause I just felt so disrespected. Oh, not even just the way, like, okay, you’re crushing my beliefs, but the way you’re speaking to me is not okay. And um, then my boyfriend was like, all right, we found this lady, her name’s Lucy Taylor. And she specializes in plant based diets. And she had worked with a range of athletes before. And I remember sitting down with it. I’m like, this girl is so cool. Like she is so switched on. And um, yeah, it was, it was the year, 2016 that we really got into it and going into manifestation. I meditated every night on my own. I don’t know why I pick this up.

Morgan: 10:17 Especially like the way my mind would work. I’m always onto my next thing. Like I can’t sit still. So for me to slow down, it was like, all right, I’ve got this diet. I feel so good. I want to win every single race and prove to people on the Australian circuit. That being a vegan is okay. And that you can still win. You can still perform at your best every single night for an hour. I would just say, I’m going to win nationals. I’m going to have an undefeated season. I’m not even joking. I won every single race, undefeated season qualified for my first Olympics. And we’re on the plane to Rio

Kimberly: 10:49 Hall.

Morgan: 10:50 Oh my gosh.

Kimberly: 10:52 That is first of all. I didn’t know that story more. So lady told it to me for the first time here. That is incredible.

Morgan: 10:57 Yeah. It’s like the highlighter. I think that would have to be the highlight of my career because it was just nice proving to people that one, you can stick up for yourself too. If you really do believe in yourself and manifest it, it can happen. And three being an athlete with a plant-based diet.

Kimberly: 11:12 Well, so what I, what I love about this story too, is now, you know, as the word gets out and game-changers had all this research talking about recovery time, which I think is why a lot of football players do it because they get really beat up. Oh yeah. But you didn’t even care. You were just, you opened your heart to seeing the suffering of the animals. And even as an athlete, you weren’t like, Hmm. Is it going to impact my performance? You just made that choice. That’s amazing.

How a plant-plant diet impacts an athlete’s performance

Morgan: 11:37 Yeah. I th I don’t know. I think the way I look at it, it’s like, I’ve done a lot with my track career. Even back in the early stages, I’d already made a few Ozzy teams and I’d traveled a fair bit. And so I’m like, what, why would I be selfish? I’ve lived. Even if I died tomorrow, I’ve lived. But seeing what was going on in the real world away from track and field was not okay. And that just didn’t sit well with me. And it was just, it’s like, there’s running, I just run like two laps now, you know, it’s, it’s really simple, but there may be issues out there. Bigger CRE.

Kimberly: 12:10 Yeah.

Morgan: 12:12 So I dunno for me, it was just like, I care too much. I didn’t want to give into that world of eating meat and, you know, just turning a blind eye and kind of picking and choosing which animals are more, which are superior to others. Like, you know, your household pets versus farm animals versus dogs. It’s just stupid. Like,

Kimberly: 12:33 Is that it goes back to that compassion, that respect for life. And I think it’s interesting. We all have like different pathways into a plant-based. I think for some people, it’s the environment for some people, it’s the animals for some people it’s health. And for me originally, and I was sharing with you a little bit about my backpacking trip was spiritual reasons, because pretty much all every single yoga master across the board has recommended a vegetarian diet like from, from India. And the reason is because, and this is interesting too. Einstein proved that energy is neither created nor destroyed. And when he understood that he became a vegetarian for energetic reasons, because if you’re putting a, you know, the second animal is killed, it starts decomposing. It starts rotting. So we’re living, you know, creatures with all this radiance and vitality. So you’re putting something rotting in a bar in your body.

Kimberly: 13:25 And so it, it weighs you down. It takes down your energy. It’s very energy intensive and it, it, you know, it blocks meditation. Yeah. So I started, you know, really wanting to work with my energy. And then of course I had always loved animals. And I started learning about, you know, more about the health and more about the environment. And so there’s this saying in Ayurveda as, as the micro as is the macro. So if something’s really the best thing for our bodies, it should be the best thing for the collective. Thank you. Yeah. It shouldn’t be this, um, it shouldn’t contradict,

Morgan: 13:57 It shouldn’t be a fight. I think that’s the other thing is like, as humans, I feel like we’re so selfish and we’re so caught up. We’re all caught up in our own individually that we actually forget about the bigger picture. And I just put it quite easily. I’m like, well, if you’re seeing what it’s doing to the environment, by eating meat and contributing to all of that, there’s going to be no world. Like you can’t make that make sense. You won’t be able to live. So why don’t you actually just cut back on all of that? Well, why don’t we all work together? And it’s not just us for the animals, for the environment, like literally as a collective, like you said, and flourish. Yeah,

Kimberly: 14:30 Exactly, exactly my mind. And even like, you know, for some people it’s making that big step and some people it’s little steps, even if it’s, you know, only eating meat, one meal a day or smaller portion sizes, but the, it just can’t sustain the way that we’re going with. You know, the Americans,

Morgan: 14:50 It’s very big portions out here.

Kimberly: 14:53 Oh my God. Oh my God. So loved. So, you know, so with your story, you, you got in, you got, it’s like instant transformation instantly. You’re on the world stage. You were so young, you were at the Olympics, you’re a Rio. Um, what was that like having, you know, come from your island country and suddenly you’re on the world stage as a young woman. Did you feel like the pressure? Did you feel nervous when people challenging you about being plant-based or, you know, suddenly you had all these people watching you I’m sure. Social media blew up. Like everything was just coming at. It was a lot. Yeah. So how did you, like, what was going on? How did you deal with at all? Um,

When people challenge your plant-based lifestyle

Morgan: 15:34 I think the world stage stuff, like we’re used to it, the pressure’s always there and that’s good. Like, I have people that work with me and I’ve had races where I’ve absolutely bombed out because of the pressure. And I understand now it’s all just a part of sport like that, like winning, losing, drawing, whatever, it’s all going to happen. But I think once people found out about the documentary and me being plant-based, I just felt like I had so much more to prove, but it wasn’t just about performance. It was still like, no, I can perform the exact same way better. Yeah. Even better. Well, yeah, cause I run all my pay bays and the funniest part for me was if I ran bad, they would blame the diet. If I ran well and pay bail, they would blame it on the training. They would credit the training.

Morgan: 16:13 And then I stopped and I was my coach, even who still liked me. And he was like, no, no, no. Like, let her live. She’s putting in the work. I get that. But when she doesn’t run that, it’s probably because, you know, I got too much in my own head and blew up or I just wasn’t prepared enough. Or I might’ve had a sore hammy. It’s not the fact that I was eating a plant-based diet. You can’t, you can’t pick and choose when it works. And I know it works. And then I think another one for me and the producers of the game changes were amazing. I found it hard being 21 with all of that pressure, I felt like I had to kind of represent a whole community, which I loved. But then when the negative stuff would come in, I kind of crumbled and I didn’t know how to handle it because, you know, man, I’m gonna give, I mean, to make sure everyone’s happy.

Morgan: 16:56 Yeah. And I remember one guy, his name was Chris, something, Chris, or his last name. Oh. I tried to delete it from my head. He made a YouTube video and he was trying to like debunk vegan athletes and plant-based and game changers. And I was at the forefront of this 15 minute video, 15 minutes. And it was so misinformed. It was so funny to me. My friends were like, please just don’t watch the rest of it. Cause it’s heartbreaking. It’s disgusting what he posted. But it was like, okay, you’re trying to debunk a plant-based diet yet. All the information you’ve put up on me is misinformed. Like I won nationals. Why are you saying I came last? I won that year. Like it was stuff like that. It just made me sick to my core. I’m like, you’re F you’re, you’re 38, 40 year old man. And you’re bullying a 21 year old female and you’ve got a daughter that’s where I went. Might have screw the diet. Screw what, whatever you guys think. I’m like your taking this way too far for someone with a wife and a daughter and you’re going out, bullying women. Are you okay?

Kimberly: 17:55 Exactly. Are you okay? Like that? That’s the thing. Um, in my skin has thickened over the years, Morgan, we’ve talked about some of the things that, um, I won’t, I won’t get into it, but a good morning America segment where I was so naive, I was just speaking so freely. And I said something about diet soda. And then the fuel I came in, though, I died. Soda is good for diabetics and blow up. It was just this whole thing. But, um, the one thing I realize is when people are that emotional about something that you’re taking it personally, it’s because they don’t have tools to process their feelings. So they don’t feel good inside of them. So then they’re just projecting it out. Cause that’s the only way that’s the only tool they have is projection. You know, even if it’s

Morgan: 18:42 Three days of work to play a 15 minute video, like that’s the thing that made me laugh is the effort. You know, that’s a lot of projection. And I think the thing that killed me upon reflection of all of that is then I went into hiding. So people would still ask, are you vegan? Like what’s happening? Like where have you gone? Or why aren’t you showing up to like, well vegan day, which is the best day in Melbourne. Oh my God. And I was just scared though. I was honestly scared. Cause I was like, I’m 21. I feel like if I say the wrong thing, I’m going to get bullied. If I say the right thing, someone out there is still going to pick on me. I just kind of want it to be Morgan again. And I felt like, I felt like there was way too much pressure to, you know, be this. I dunno like th this spokesperson, even if it wasn’t for plant-based diets, it was for anything in my life. I just kind of

Kimberly: 19:25 Australian athlete. Plan-based

Morgan: 19:27 Mixed race, black, white, like, what is she like? She’s like exotic. Like I had all of these things.

Kimberly: 19:34 I relate more to you because I’m half, you know, I’m mixed too. I’m half white, half Asian. And I grew up in a town that was completely Caucasian. And I was always like the exotic ones. If anybody’s listening to this right now, you have to go to Morgan’s, um, Instagram, or we’re going to have clips of this too. But Morgan is ah, stunning, gorgeous. Has anyone ever told you look like Naomi Campbell? You ever gotten that?

Morgan: 20:00 Not until today, but

Going beyond labels and connecting to the true self

Kimberly: 20:02 I told Todd, I told my husband that I go, wait, you want me to Campbell? Like 30 years ago is coming over right now. Um, but it’s funny, but you know, cause people are always trying to put the labels, oh your plant-based oh, you’re mixed or you’re black or you’re this or you’re that instead of just being yeah, it’s that labels kind of, you know, it’s what makes people feel safe? Yeah. I think so people label them and you’ll read in the next book, Morgan, cause I’m giving you the galley. One of the things is going beyond labels and like just really connecting to the true self, which can’t be defined on a scale. It’s not how old you are, how much you weigh or how much money is in the bank, but connecting with like the real energy inside. And then you start to connect with other people and you stop all that. But the people that are on the attack, haven’t gotten to that point. So the labels are something that they can fixate on, whether it’s to create separation or like, oh, I can like this person or not that person or whatever it is.

Morgan: 21:00 Yeah. And well, that’s the thing that killed me is like, cause I feel like I know myself, I just didn’t want to lose my beliefs, you know? So I’d get really shy and timid whenever anyone would ask me a question about any professional, anything I’d done, I’d be like, yeah, can I do that once? Yeah. Oh, okay. And I’d just kind of like find the nearest exit and just want to kind of hide in a hole because I was so scared. I was like, why are they talking to me? Is it from a good place? Is it, you know, what do they want from this conversation? Um, but yeah, the older I’ve gotten, the more I reflect, I’m kind of like, oh it. Like,

Kimberly: 21:29 So I feel like, you know, that first time you kind of go through that, like it kind of, you know, it makes you shrink for a minute. Right? Cause you want to play small. You don’t want to be a target, but then you start to rise up and you’re like, no way, they’re not keeping me down. So I feel like, you know, over the next few years when I talked about this, like so much is coming, you’re rising. It’s amazing. You’re global ambassadors for all these brands and doing all this stuff. And I, I think, you know, now that you’re more used to being in the spotlight. Yeah. Yeah. I think like then your skin, your skin gets thicker. You realize like people have their own stuff. It has nothing to do with you. You stop taking things personally, which I think is the hardest thing when you start to have any sort of public content out there. Yeah,

Morgan: 22:16 For sure. And that’s, and that’s the other thing I’m like, okay, well I’m the one putting the content out there. So it’s up to me to react how I want at the same time. And so now it’s like, I feel like, yes, I am rising. I, my skin is definitely a lot thicker. Let’s just say that. But now it’s also like, I understand that other people have their own stuff going on. And if they try to project that onto me, that it’s them. But it’s, for me, it’s like, all right, except it don’t fall into that trap. You don’t have to fall into that trap. It’s okay. Because I find myself sometimes reverting back and just thinking why, like I asked myself so many questions, like why would they do that? Why are they like that? Like, I just want to dive into their mind just because I just, I’m not that kind of person. I know.

Kimberly: 22:56 I, I think about, I try to look at like, oh, something, you know, some trauma must have happened in their childhood or you know, just some something with their compassion or their lack of processing or whatever it is. So what are your, you know, tool, your go-to tools now, Morgan, if it’s like, you know, your manager, your, I know you’re close to your sisters or community or journaling or meditating, like what are some of the things that help you? If you start to feel really vulnerable or dinged around a little bit by, you know, some comments or whatever.

Go-to tools for staying grounded and present

Morgan: 23:28 Yeah. For me, I have a very small friendship group. It’s quite funny. My friend, Audrey who lives here, she’s one of my best mates. She said, I noticed when I bring you out to meet people, you just go very quiet. I’m like, yeah, I’m an extrovert when I want to be. But I have my people and I don’t feel the need to let anyone else in. I’m a nice person, but you have your tribe. Yeah. And I can fall back on them for anything. And I’m so open. Oh my gosh, maybe you saw my sisters, like the group chat that we have. And they’re the people that just keep me not so much keep me in check, but they just let me know, like you’re Morgan to us. Like you’re just a normal human. And when I’m treated like that, I’m so fine. Nothing can get to me.

Morgan: 24:07 Cause at the end of the day, I’m still just normal person like everybody else. And then another thing I would do, especially in 20 17, 20 18, I was at my lowest, I’ll just play piano because it’s such a, like you have to focus. It’s uh, like, uh, what would I say? Like, it’s a lonely kind of instrument. I guess I can only play it by myself. I taught myself all these different songs because I want to self piano for Elise was like my highlight. And I finally wanted to like nail it and I did a YouTube, I got lessons as a kid as well. So I, I know the keys and stuff, but yeah, I was just like, Hey, let’s just jump on YouTube and write it down. Then I learned to play and mom can play. So she might have a little bit of input. But um, for me it was like, okay, it’s just me and the piano for two hours.

Morgan: 24:49 And Tom would just fly. And it just kind of, for me, it would like send me back into where I needed to be. And I felt so good because it’s like, oh, that person doesn’t matter. I’m here trying to nail for Elise. Wow. You know? And then you get it and you feel like you’ve accomplished something within yourself because you put so much effort into it. Wow. Yeah. And my friends, it was so funny. I’d finish a song and I’d send it to them. I’m like, all right. He comes to Morgan with another song. She’s gone through some, but then they knew it would make me happier. So it was like my therapy

Kimberly: 25:17 As you were, you were just in that moment, like focusing on.

Morgan: 25:19 And you’re really, truly in the moment. Like, that’s one thing I love and I think I’ve pretty much mastered. I still not mastered. I shouldn’t say that, but I’m very good at like noticing things in the moment. Like we’ll be talking, so we’re having a conversation and that’s all I’m thinking about right now. And then when you were showing me around your beautiful home, I’m like trees and like the trees are green. Oh my gosh, blackberries, they’re actually black. Like I can just, you know, I can say exactly what I’m seeing. Whereas sometimes if you get someone to speak their mind or being in the moment, they’re like, oh no, no, no. But I’ve got to worry about my meeting tomorrow or emails that I have to answer.

Kimberly: 25:54 Incredible and rare thing, Morgan they’re so present. Yeah. You don’t have to be one thing I noticed about you, like from the star and you know, why we vibe so much was if I had to describe you in two words,

Kimberly: 26:09 Don’t worry. There are two good words, but immediately it was so, um, so obvious it was light and joyful. It was, you know, lightness is, um, is kind of a rare quality these days because it means that people let go of stuff. Cause a lot of the heaviness that you feel on people as they have resentments, um, experiences, they don’t let go of feelings that they haven’t processed. And so with you, I really felt there was this lightness and this just genuine joy. And when we together in Miami, you actually knows, you know, you’re okay with me talking about something personal, you, you broke up with your boyfriend and you all went to dinner with Gordon who is running our program the night before. He’s like, oh man. He’s like, I’m worried about, I know mortgage is like, you know, hang out with her or whatever.

Kimberly: 26:59 And then I saw you the next morning we shared a car to the airport and you were totally fine. It was your choice to break up with him. But you were like, oh yeah, I let that go. And so in like 12 hours or whatever. So tell me a little bit about that. I mean, how did you learn that skill of letting go? Because that’s a very, you know, sort of advanced you’ll get quality. Cause people want to hold the ego says, no, I should, I should be offended. The ego keeps the pride, but you really

The skill of letting go

Morgan: 27:30 Let these things go. I don’t have time. And I think because I enjoy life and I actually enjoy getting older, that was a thing. And I realized, okay, I’m getting older by the minute by the second life is too short, it can end whatever. Why am I going to worry? And I’ve had so much go on in my life. Like, we’ve talked about like very like, you know, like, I guess I can touch on this stuff with like my, yeah, yeah. So like domestic violence and like nearly losing my life. I won’t name who it was certain reasons, but you know, that happened to me at 18. And I was left in hospital with a broken jaw, fractured jaw and that’s from then on. I think I realized, okay, I’ve nearly lost my life. Once someone like nearly took my life away at the age of 18, four days after my 18th birthday. And I think right then and there it’s almost like I had it. It was this weird come to Jesus party. Like,

Kimberly: 28:25 Was there a big difference from before in your energy

Morgan: 28:27 To after a hundred? I was still, I think I was still like the happy Morgan. I kind of didn’t really know my way, like what I wanted to be fully yet. Um, and then after that it was like, no, I’m I’m me and I’m not gonna let anyone tell me how I can leave my life or what I should do or whatever, because you literally have like death pretty much stay you in the face. And it’s almost like life makes sense. I don’t know why I would hold on to other people’s BS. I don’t know why I would, I would hold onto my own BS because life goes on. So what’s the point in holding onto it. It’s just wasted energy. And for me, it’s like, I just want to be happy. I just want to be having fun. I want to make sure the people around me are enjoying their life because that’s all it’s about is like we, I think we over-complicate stuff with work and bills and you know, going for a jog training. I’m like, it’s all just, it’s honestly, whatever it is, like life is literally what you make it Hannah Montana.

Morgan: 29:18 But yeah, that’s true. That’s the thing is, you know, and you know how people like to talk about, um, the days of the caveman? No such thing as taxes. So when I really strip it back, it’s like, we’re all technically caveman. And if I want to go to work, it’s up to me, but no one’s going to care if I don’t show up because then I can do something else. And like, life is just so free and flowing. So I’m not going to worry about all the negative energy because it’s such a weight in my head. It’s just such a waste of time. And it’s, there’s 7 billion people in the world in this world

Kimberly: 29:48 That a lot of brothers and sisters,

Morgan: 29:51 There’s always going to be another best friend. There’s always going to be another relationship. There’s always going to be someone else that offer you job to offer you support, to offer you love. So like holding onto one thing or one person it’s like really,

Kimberly: 30:05 You know, that’s, that’s one of the things that I think, you know, one of the reasons you’re so successful Morgan is this it’s, it’s an abundance, you know, it’s not lack. It’s like, oh, I’m going to be me. And I’m not going to try to control because there’s so much out there. But going back to that moment for a moment, because you know, again, that’s a pretty big, um, thing for people, you know, to process domestic violence. Did it take you some time to let go of the resentment of that person that did it to you? Or was it sort of this immediate, like I saw death and I let it all go. I’m going to pithany or was it sort of a process,

Morgan: 30:46 Two different things, to be honest. Cause it was like for me in relation to saying death and letting go, that was one thing I did that in a second. The next day I was just like, nah, I get life now. I just felt like I knew exactly what I wanted to be, what I wanted to do. And then with the person, it was just like, it took me up until I reckon last year to really let go. So this happened in 2012. What are we like last year was eight years on. That’s my, if my math. Yeah. I D I use on, I would think about it every single day.

Morgan: 00:00 Oh, it would trigger it. Like I remember it was a windy day, so a gust of wind would come on the track. I would relate the incident to my track career. I’m like, oh my God, that happened. And then I question the same three questions. Why would they do that? Did they ever even love me? Why were they a part of my life? What are they doing now? Are they sorry? Like, yeah. And then again,

Kimberly: 00:19 Seeking out of the moment.

Morgan: 00:20 Yeah. And the thing that killed me the most was I think people knew I was one an athlete, so they just think you’ve got a strong mind and the day it happened and then the day after it was like the police come, they take a few photos like, oh, all right. He’s a, he’s a beyond blue. So that’s our mental health call line helpline. He’s a blue beyond blue card. If you’re feeling sad, call this number. Oh my God. And then I just kind of go and then everyone else was like, oh, you’ve got states this weekend. Just focus on that. But no one actually checked to see if I was okay. Like, that’s the thing that killed me is like, my mum was amazing for sure. She was there for me, but everyone else around me, I think they were so scared. Cause they had never been, they’ve never, they’ve never actually experienced it in any capacity.

Morgan: 01:01 So they didn’t know what to say or how to handle it. And everyone was like, oh, you’ll be all right. Just go focus on running. So for me, I get over things quickly because I think I’ve just been told, I’ll get over it. That’s the other side of it. And I was like, all right, well, I’m going to go to state champs. And it was quite funny. I did win, which was great, but it was just like not fulfilling. I was just doing it to make other people happy. But for so long, for a good eight years, I haven’t been mentally. Okay. Yeah. Cause it’s like, no one, let me process it. I just had to get over it.

Kimberly: 01:29 Well, the energy is still in there. You know, there’s, there’s this author that I love. You’ll see all his books. They’re called Dr. David Hawkins. And he has this book called letting go, which I’ll have to get for you, Morgan. But it’s about, you know, letting go doesn’t mean forget about it and pretend it didn’t happen. Letting go means you feel it it’s like a wave of energy. And then after about 10 minutes or so he says the intensity goes down and may come back. So you feel and feel until it’s like, it’s like digesting food. Yeah. So unless you like had that time to go to let it process, it’s still going to be somewhere in our system.

Morgan: 02:05 Exactly. And I think that’s the thing is I reckon I had that moment in 2020. I don’t even know how it came about. Like, I’m not sure. I wish I knew what it was that helped me just let go

Kimberly: 02:14 Spontaneously came

Morgan: 02:16 Up. Yeah. It was insane because for me it was like, well, where are you? Oh, where was I? Last year? 2020? I reckon I was in America because I, her, again, I attach something to, it was all about college and me going to college and I touched that to it and I thought, you know what, this. And I just let go. I was having a time of my life in a place I wanted to be in. And it’s almost like I’ve thought a thousand different thoughts about that moment in 2012, processed it and like 0.0, one seconds. And then I just felt like a weight was lifted off my shoulders. I’m like, y’all, I felt love for me, for the person, for my family, for everyone. And I was like, there’s nothing more I can do because I think I was not just holding onto it, but I was holding onto the hope that they could be a better person, that they could be loved, that they could come and come have him play a little, come to Jesus party and figure out their issues.

Morgan: 03:03 I thought, okay, well I’ve done all I can do. It’s not my job to make other people happy. You want to make yourself happy. Um, and so for me, I think that was the moment. And I just was over being bitter about it. You know? I’m like, I felt like there was just like a, yes, I’m so happy and joyful, but there was like evil side, like where I can just switch and everything goes black and I can get angry. And I knew it was because of that when other people don’t deserve that because of what happens to me, that’s not fair. And that was another thing, and like it would come out and be like this nice relief. But then I looked back and think, that was such a beachy move. Or like, I shouldn’t, I’m not even really,

Kimberly: 03:39 You know, it’s not, you it’s like this energy of the unprocessed emotion. Cause that’s not the true self and Morgan was not yet.

Morgan: 03:46 And that was the thing I was telling myself. Like, don’t be embarrassed to be happy and full of love. It’s okay. You don’t have to have this cool evil side all the time. Like or whatever. It’s just not fun. Cause then the moment when you sing black, you’d think, oh yeah, this is exactly it. And then you see the damage it does to other people. And I was just like, knew that is not okay. I shouldn’t put it.

Kimberly: 04:07 And usually it’s like the people that you love the most inner circle. Cause he feel comfortable. Yeah. And then you feel guilty and they had to clean out the,

Morgan: 04:15 Yeah, it’s just tiring for everyone. So for me it was like, don’t be that person you’ve gone through the ringer with it. Don’t project it onto other people. No one deserves that, especially when you’ve dealt with it firsthand. That’s just, yeah. So,

Kimberly: 04:29 Oh, do you, um, do you feel like in that moment when it kind of spontaneously came through, can you say it was also a moment of, of deep forgiveness?

Morgan: 04:39 100%? Yeah.

Kimberly: 04:40 Just like full.

Morgan: 04:41 Yeah. I was very resentful for a long time and I was like,

Kimberly: 04:45 As anybody would be,

Morgan: 04:47 And I was like, I was always a big believer in, I’m not going to say, sorry, unless I actually made it like screw, apologies this at the other end. I thought, you know what? I forgive. I forgive that person. You have to in order to move on. It’s like, I understand what happened, but I forgive you. What, what is, I just don’t think it was, I didn’t think it would help my soul by not forgiving them and holding onto that hate. It’s so stressful

Kimberly: 05:11 Doing whatever they’re doing.

Morgan: 05:13 Yeah. Yeah. It’s like time to move on. I’m getting older. I, you know, I’m hoping I can like have kids in the future and just teach people that this is a way to live after it because some people go the other way, where they end up doing it to others, they end up doing the exact same thing that happened to them because they start to think it’s normal and they start hurting people’s lives and all of this. So I’d like to be, you know, not, let’s just all focus on the fact that yes, it happened to you, but it’s now your opportunity to take that on board and educate people on. Yep. You can come out the other side, you can still be successful. You can do what you want in life. You’re still worthy. People still love you. You don’t have to revert to like drugs and violence and this and that. Like there are people that are out there that want to help you get to the other side. Um, and I th I reckon I thank my mum for that. She was quite, she was quite incredible, very incredible.

Kimberly: 06:02 I, I feel like, um, that that’s going to be a big part of your, your work plan. It, you know, besides of course being an amazing athlete, but as someone with your level of success and what you’ve created and what you’re going to continue to create to, to show people, I’m this embodiment of someone that went through major trauma and physical trauma and all that I went through. And like you said, I’m present here. I let go. Yeah. I find joy now. And that is so inspiring for people to hear

Morgan: 06:31 For sure. And I’m just hoping it can also help those that are the abusers or the abusers, sorry, as well, because I look at that and think you’re obviously going through your own trauma, but if you have people to talk to, then we can kind of just nip this in the bud, because I really deeply care. As I said, like obviously in Miami as well, it was touched on, but like working with children and disadvantaged children as well, ones that have a rough upbringing, or, you know, aren’t necessarily on an equal playing field because, you know, you’ve got, you’ve got two sons. It’s like, you’d do anything for them. And I think children, every single child on this planet deserves equal opportunity to get to where they want to. And even those that don’t, I just want them to believe that you still can, like, I did that. You can still go to the Olympics. You can still be the next beyond sales and day or 50 cent, whoever you want to be. It’s still possible. It can be done. And that’s, I think that’s one thing I hold close to my heart is like, that just that’ll be the next kind of phase of my life. I, I hope

Kimberly: 07:27 I feel that coming and not only can it be done, but you know, it’s like these, these rock bottom moment sometimes, you know, for me, it was when my mom passed and then I became a single mom a couple of months later, that’s what opens your heart. That’s where you can, then you can serve people even more because you’ve been through all this stuff. You can, you could have more empathy, you can understand people. So in a way, it’s, you know, it sounds like cliche when people are like, oh, your, your greatest obstacles become your greatest strengths, but it’s true.

Turning your greatest obstacles into your greatest strengths

Morgan: 07:58 Yeah. A hundred percent. And just to ride with it, like I now own it, you know, I used to be so embarrassed. I, oh my gosh. I used to be so embarrassed. Like everyone sees me as a shiny athlete, like my last minute to be perfect. And now I’m like, you know what.

Kimberly: 08:11 He told me that honey, like my love and respect for you. Cause I see, like I get goosebumps just who you are. Right. This like beautiful human and like, you know, knowing what you’ve been through. It’s like, oh my gosh, we, again, back to the inspiration, like can be this light in this joyful. And I’ve gone through that. Like that is going to help so many people hearing your story. And so also, you know, you mentioned to me, there was like a moment where you were in temporary foster care. Yeah. Because there’s, you know, a lot of different levels of trauma from our childhood. And you know, a lot of us go through not being loved in the way that we wanted to, or we didn’t have stability or whatever it was. So he, can you speak a little bit about that because I know, you know, your mom was amazing, but there, you know, she just couldn’t take care of you in that time. And you know, getting still, you were able to let go of any resentment or

Morgan: 09:03 Oh yeah, for sure. So it’s um, the, the organization is called cottage by the sea at, in Queens cliff where I’m from, I’m from Werribee, but it’s like a 45 minute drive. And it’s where you go. When families are going through rough times and we spent a few weeks out there back and forth. And for us, I love them because they made it feel like you were just on the school camp. You had no idea. And I remember going back visiting them. I told them, I’m like, thank you. Like, honestly, from the bottom of my heart, I’ve dealt with charities before and I can tell which ones are a tax write-off and which ones genuinely care and put it out there. And I said, you guys genuinely care about every single child that comes in here to make sure that they are safe and that they are happy. Like you did that for me, did that for my sisters. We are appreciative. And there’s nothing to be like ashamed of. I don’t think I ever held a resentment for my mom because she’s my best friend. I love it. But I understood from mum always said I was such a switched on child. Like I could really pick up on things and pick up on people’s energies. And I think it’s the labor in me, but I need balance.

Morgan: 10:10 And I just knew she was doing the most to make sure we were provided for, you know, she, she was trying her best exactly. With three kids all a year apart. And we’re all females with the same interest. Of course we’re going to fight every day and cause they’re nothing but stress. And um, yeah, so we grew up after that. It wasn’t until I think 2018, I finally realized that’s when it clicked. One of my friends was an ambassador for cottage by the sea and they were saying, oh, I’ve got to go down to cottage by the sea. I was like, oh, I went there and then she sat me down and told me what it was. And I was just like, oh, like I thought it was, uh, a school holiday program. And then when you got into the ins and outs, I CA I did start crying. Cause I was a little bit embarrassed in that moment. Cause I didn’t know. And then when I researched into it, I just thought, holy, they did a number on us. We thought it was just a, you know, like a fun park. So good on them for actually, well

Kimberly: 11:04 That’s when you found out

Morgan: 11:05 What it, yeah. That’s how I found out. And that’s why I clicked my

Kimberly: 11:09 Fault. And he thought it was like camp

Morgan: 11:11 A hundred percent. Wow. That’s what I thought. I’ve got to go back. I want to talk to them. And then once my career is done, I definitely want to help them kind of grow. But I also would like to get to a point where you don’t need that in the world anymore. Obviously like it’s a great, that that’s a thing, but families should not have to go through that in the first place. You know what I mean? So it’s a very interesting, like my upbringing to me, so normal,

Kimberly: 11:36 So normal, but powerful. What you’ve been through love, you know?

Morgan: 11:41 And that’s uh, like, yeah, I just see it as, oh, this is just my life. It’s kinda crazy. Cause that’s all I know. Right. I don’t know anything different.

Kimberly: 11:48 Yeah, exactly. And then, but now as you, as you grow and you kind of look around and travel around so much now, do you feel it love? Do you feel that, you know, you are light and you’ve like go along, can you feel the heaviness on people That are just heavy

Morgan: 12:10 A hundred percent and you get that? Yes. Yeah. That I can’t stop. I shouldn’t lie. The first moment you meet someone, I get it a hundred percent. And I think I naturally, I feel like you’d do the same, you know? Like it’s like a force around you and you let that person know, like I’m a, I’m a caring person. Don’t get me wrong. I’m lovely. I’m nice. But this is my bubble,

Kimberly: 12:32 You know, with healthy boundaries.

Morgan: 12:34 Yeah. Yeah. I never used to be like, come on everyone, come in and let, let’s just like abuse the out of me. And I finally realized, no, I I’ve got my people. I’ve got my circle. This is my force. And it’s funny. Cause people now get that. And some wouldn’t even approach me. It’s like, oh, it’s actually working. I don’t get that. Like Kimberly.

Kimberly: 12:56 Yeah, there were, there was, there was nothing like, it was just like two souls.

Morgan: 13:00 The thing I’ve found. I don’t know if I hope you agree. Otherwise this is going to sound weird, but I didn’t even have to think no natural. Like, you know, usually it’s like, oh no, you just came in. And there was no worry.

Kimberly: 13:11 HeartSpace you know, and that’s where, um, I feel like the heart math Institute, they’re doing this amazing research, finding that the heart energy is like 60 times. And they’re like 60 times more than the brain energy and the resonance. So when we were like in the heart, the heart leads us. And I talk about this in the next book you just met John. And it was when we met, it was a time where I’d been meditating for many months, you know, some months after my breakup. And this month that I met told me to treat my home like an Nash room. So I was very inward at that time. And when I met my thinking brain, might’ve been like, oh, he’s not safe. Like it’s kind of cold grilling, you know, whatever. Just, but I didn’t think I felt the heart. Yeah. And I think that’s like, the more we live on this level. Yeah. We could say it with love. There’s, you know, there’s people you’re drawn to there’s people. You’re not, we can always stay, you know, loving. I think that’s like the guy that takes you through.

Morgan: 14:12 And I think I notice as well as like, I get energy from people where they’re trying to steal your energy or trying to learn from your energy. I was like, you know what? I’ll give you a little bit just so you get like understand where I’m coming from and what I’m about. But don’t think for a second, I’m going to change for you or like give it all to you. Or there’s your like little taste. And now it’s up to you with as to what you want to do with it. Like totally. I did that. I do that. And I’m just, and that’s all you can do is cause it’s not up to me to make other people happy. I’ve worked so hard to protect my own energy. And I just want to keep in this kind of space of this like light happy, fun, joy. Like we’re all just one balanced laborer. No, but

Kimberly: 14:52 It’s discernment, which is important. You’ll get quality as well. Because if we’re just leaking all the time, then we can’t really show up to be the best person to help, you know, support where you want to channel your energy. Yeah.

Morgan: 15:04 Be good causes. So it’s quite funny because a lot of people have heard it a lot this year as well. You have an amazing energy. And sometimes I look at my, okay,

Kimberly: 15:13 It’s true. It’s like liberal people pick up on, we were talking about this too. Like, you can’t really fake it and you can say the right things. But if you’re not in that energy behind, then, then it’s going to be felt, you know, it’s just like one of those things you can’t fake.

Morgan: 15:30 Yeah. And that’s so okay. And I think everyone will find, we’ll get to that point at some, hopefully some point in their life, some are just a little bit more behind than others. I feel like I found mine at 10 years old when I was starting to pick up on other people’s energies. And I knew, okay, I don’t want to be like that. I don’t want to be, oh, that person. Oh cool. And you kind of take in all this information from other people’s like force really. And now I’m 27 and it’s like, I’m so comfortable with who I am as a person. And I love it. And it’s just so nice to sit in this space and let the world happen.

Kimberly: 15:59 Oh man, I can’t wait. You’re going to be a force at 37 47. So let’s talk about that for a moment. Love, you are shooting a commercial with David Bacco. Amazing. You’re going to do one more Olympics. Yep. Hey, this is kind of like a future based question. Like, cause you know, we don’t know like your life is unfolding so many things, but what do you, you know, what are some of the things that you’re excited about besides those two things, you know, what’s what’s Morgan like seeing on the horizon. Yeah, for sure.

What’s on the horizon for Morgan Mitchell

Morgan: 16:31 Um, for me it’s definitely the collection I have with jagged coming out. I’m really passionate about the fashion side of things. Oh yeah.

Kimberly: 16:38 Yeah. You’re so creative and the way you dress, it’s powerful. And I have to check out the jacket collection.

Morgan: 16:49 [inaudible]

Morgan: 16:50 It’s funny. Cause I felt like I had done so much this year. It was very hard for me to reset my goals because I always aim high. Like I had a dream of going to, I’ve got to get mom to take a photo and I’ll send it to you of my bucket list, dream journal. In 2016, I hit 13 of the 18 things that I wrote down. Come on. And it was like, I want to be in Vogue. I ended up doing Vogue twice. Oh I want to, you know, get into TV. And then the game-changers happened. Oh my God. And people like, how does it happen? I’m like just write it down, drawer it and dream about it. And it happens

Kimberly: 17:21 Where you visualizing or were you just feeling the words? Would you see pictures in your mind of it?

Morgan: 17:27 Definitely. So I drew a little bit. Definitely would picture the words and then I just let it go. You’ve definitely got a have of it. Yeah. I think once you believe that it can happen. I’d just be like, all right, it’s going to happen when it happens. So

Kimberly: 17:38 You only write it down once. Yeah.

Morgan: 17:40 Or I draw it if I feel like it and then that’s it. That’s it? Yeah.

Kimberly: 17:43 Unless you didn’t keep thinking about it.

Morgan: 17:45 Only the Olympics, when I meditate every night to make the team, that was the only time I really like hammered it. But every stuff

Kimberly: 17:51 Was like Vogue and whenever you can just eat, it was just this knowingness.

Morgan: 17:54 I was like, that’s going to happen. Cause that’s what I want to do. Oh my God. In my mind, it just makes sense. And I always tell this, especially to the young kids in my, um, squad, I’m like, honestly dream, cause I’ve done so much stuff and no one ever believes me. But I honestly say it’s all about manifesting what you want and it happens. And if they don’t want to believe you, they can stay stuck. Yeah. Just don’t be afraid to speak what you want and believe that you can get it. It’s so easy. And I just feel like now I’m like, oh, you know, like I wanted to be in a Disney movie. That’d be really cool to be like a little animated, like animal or something. I was like, I can be that for, I’ve been finding out

Kimberly: 18:29 Your characters,

Morgan: 18:32 But to be honest, it’s, I’m at the point now where I get I’m 27, but I’m so excited for my thirties. Cause I’m so keen on just checking my phone away, checking away social media, disappearing, living in Spain and just having children and just letting them live, like living my life for like through not through them in, yeah. I love Spain somewhere. Just on a winery. I sell it like grow it a girl, oranges, orange juice on the beach. And that’s how I pay my rent. I’m sending my kids to school.

Kimberly: 19:00 I love that. Or if I can convince you to move to the mountains

Morgan: 19:04 Exactly. Somewhere where I can just like be with the people and being a normal person and not have to answer emails or go to a track meet or go to training. It’s like, I just I’m. So it’s so it’s crazy. I’m even saying this out loud, but I’m so excited just to have two to three kids, she’s like, oh, sending them to school. Oh, we’re all going to have family time at home. Oh, I just like, I’m so accepting and understanding that I’ve done so much and like I still want to do more, but it’s not a necessity. I don’t have to

Kimberly: 19:33 Keep not where your worth is.

Morgan: 19:36 No, no.

Kimberly: 19:38 I share that with you to love. I feel like, you know, at one point I’ll, I’m going to go retire to our farm in Hawaii. And I like, you know, I put value out or try to put value for the social media. If it wasn’t for that, then I wouldn’t be in there because it’s very noisy. It’s just not my thing per se. But I do like to share and inspire and give value. But um, naturally I do love just quiet meditating being with the family. You know, my life is very simple.

Morgan: 20:08 As you can see here, it’s a very nice, simple, it’s

Kimberly: 20:11 Simple and it’s, it’s nature based. It’s like nature and family and um, it’s quiet, you know, like we don’t own a TV. I know you don’t either.

Morgan: 20:21 I wouldn’t even know how to turn one on. Oh my God.

Kimberly: 20:25 Funny. And I just, I like, I feel, I just, I feel like better not having a lot of noise. Yes, exactly. Whereas it might, but you know, in my twenties I did party. I went through phases of, you know, where you want to go out and explore. And I think it’s, you know, I lived in New York city. I think that’s good. I had those experiences.

Morgan: 20:44 Sure. You got to go through them. Helps you though. Don’t you think?

Kimberly: 20:48 Totally. Whether it’s like, I see you, it’s like you moved from deeper waters. All the stuff that’s happened, you know, the partying, the backpacking, the

Morgan: 20:58 Not trying to hide from the city on vodka, much shakes. I was a rotten kid. I was so gross. Fake IDs. Oh my God.

Kimberly: 21:08 Yes, yes, no COVID but that was a very common thing. Um, in all the experiences, like we talked about the pain, you know, losing my mom really suddenly just my big breakup with, you know, Emerson, my first son’s father, um, you know, cause in my family and I won’t get into the whole thing, but on the Philippines, divorce is still illegal. So it’s like a big thing. Like you’re supposed to stay together and work things out. So know it was just like, you know, it was like, it was like in trained in me. Like you’re supposed to like figure it out. So, you know, just, but then all these experiences, like we come to where we are and we can create our lives. Like you said,

Morgan: 21:51 And appreciate everything that happened. And I feel that that’ll be my next part of letting go. It’s like, I’m letting go of the athlete. I’m letting go of ambassador. Now I’m just Morgan, the mom or just Morgan that I want to be. The farmer want to be the orange

Kimberly: 22:04 Farmer. I love it. I love

Morgan: 22:06 It. $2 a cup, fresh orange juice.

Kimberly: 22:10 I

Morgan: 22:10 Love it. It’s honestly all I want. That’s like the top of my list.

Kimberly: 22:15 So you are going to love when you come visit me in Hawaii because it’s so still, and we have this big forest and you know, bees and we’re growing cacao and kind of just chill. Yeah. Enjoying life. Yeah. Just looking at the frogs and the how cool.

Morgan: 22:32 And it’s definitely something, I feel like you come to that moment in your life and even doing that retiring in Hawaii and you’re surrounded by an abundance of like nature and just natural energy. How many people get to experience that? Like how,

Kimberly: 22:48 For some people they’d be like, oh, um, you know, there’s not enough excitement here or like it needs stuff and they’re still in that phase. But I can say for me, um, being, you know, through a lot of loud and busy and crazy noisy phases, I really do. Sometimes you spin and you spin and then you find that center point. And so that’s where I am in my life. Now I really value more stillness. So I’m gonna meet you at 27 Morgan. I did not get this at a lot more time, but um, but I’m impressed. So impressed love with your, with your energy. Thank you so much for coming on today. You are an amazing soul and I’m just so grateful that we got to meet that we’re already fast friends and sisters and you know, sharing your love and your energy. You are inspiring woman.

In Closing

Kimberly: 03:51 All right. My loves, I hope you enjoyed our interview as much as I enjoyed having this conversation with Morgan, please be sure to check out more information on Morgan in our show notes, and you can find her on social @MorganMitch. I just love her and I can. I just can’t wait to see how life continues to unfold for this amazing woman plant-based athlete super force. So I’ll be back here Thursday for our next Q&A podcast. So then take great care. See when the app see over at mysolluna.com and please be sure to pre-order your copy of the new book today? You are more than you think you are from my heart to yours.

Lots of love Namaste.