Solocast: Practical Healthy Food for Events, Travel and Everyday Life (Episode #1017)

 

Episode Summary:

In this episode Kimberly discusses practical healthy eating strategies for events, travel, and everyday life, emphasizing the importance of self-care during seasonal changes. She addresses the protein powder controversy, offers tips for cooking at home, and shares insights on maintaining healthy eating habits while traveling and attending events. The conversation highlights the balance between food, body, and spiritual growth, encouraging listeners to adopt a holistic approach to wellness.

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TRANSCRIPT:

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (00:01.006)
Hi everyone and welcome back to our show. I’m very excited to do a solo cast in our food cornerstone, specifically on practical healthy food for events, travel and everyday life. And I was really inspired to record this show right from my heart to your heart to speak to you as I would a client to share really practical information because I know that we go through a lot of

similar experiences, different details perhaps, but there’s so much activity in the fall. And I just got back this week from Hawaii. There was a little fall break for my kids. So we were there and then I had to do a short work trip to Austin. And there’s a lot of events right now. Maybe there’s events at your child’s school. There’s Halloween. Maybe you have some travel. The holidays are coming. So I thought it would be a really perfect time to talk about how to practically take care of yourself.

this time of year with all the events and everything that’s happening seasonally. This is the season of vata, of wind, of air. It’s just a really important time, I think, to have a little heart-to-heart between us, specifically around food, which is such an important self-care category. It’s such an important cornerstone. It is something that’s spoken about in spiritual Vedic texts because

how we eat has a direct impact on our energy, our vitality, our meditations, our moods, our emotions, and it’s really important that we connect the dots in this holistic lifestyle. I’m going to be covering as well some of my take on the lead in protein powder controversy that’s currently happening right now. You might have seen a bit of this on social media or in the news, so we’re gonna get into that. And I’ll say right now there’s…

There’s not as much panic around it as it may initially appear, but I’ll cover that in just a few moments. And before we dive in, reminder that our show notes are going to be at mysaluna.com, which is our central hub. If you haven’t yet joined our newsletter, I highly encourage you to get on. We send out free recipes, articles, promotions for our amazing digestion-focused saluna products, and free events. So please join our newsletter.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (02:21.07)
Once again at mysalina.com if you haven’t yet already. Okay, let’s get right into our show today. And so it is a very big shift as we talked about a little bit in the past between summer and fall and we can start to feel a little bit of that Vata energy building up which in imbalance, Ayurveda teaches us can lead to a lot of anxiety, restlessness.

Just feeling not really grounded in our bodies. This can manifest in many different ways. Maybe you may notice yourself just, you know, sort of craving different foods or scrolling more than you usually would, just having something to do in any spare moment. And so we really want to deeply take care of ourselves at this time. And so I want to cover these three different facets.

of our podcast, Daily Life. I want to introduce some tips, reinforce someones as well. I want to talk about events of all different kinds from work events to school events. I know there’s many of those in my life right now. And then I want to talk a little bit about travel, whether you’re taking a road trip with a friend on a Saturday morning, or you’re jumping on a plane for a business trip or, you know, preparing for some sort of, you know,

Thanksgiving holiday coming up, it’s good to have some guidelines to keep in mind so that you don’t completely go off the rails and feel really heavy and really bloated and really thrown off. You don’t have to perfectly stick to your schedule that you would at home, but there’s certainly ways and things that I’ve been implementing myself that feel really good that you can carry with you, that you can take with you no matter where you happen to be.

But first, before we even go into that, I want to talk a little bit about the lead and cadmium, the heavy metals found in protein powders. And particularly it was said in this report by Consumer Reports in plant-based protein powders. So first of all, I want to say right off the bat that we live in a society that

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (04:40.874)
likes controversy, right? And sometimes certain things are put out in the media, they get picked up, it starts to be like, my gosh, read this, click on this, did you hear this? And sometimes it’s really not what it appears to be. There’s many different ways to extrapolate the results of certain studies and certain findings. They can be taken out of context. There’s just

many ways in which news is presented in our society. So as listeners and, you know, consumers ourselves, it’s up to us to really make sure that the sources that are, that we’re listening to really have our best interests in mind. And I can certainly say from my heart that I definitely do. I, you know, I share with you what has really helped me.

ways I eat, ways I feed clients, ways I feed my family and live that have really helped. And so I bring this up because sometimes I really do feel frustrated that I feel like we’re focusing a lot on the wrong thing. And this is across the board and this is something I’ll cover in other episodes as well. So for example, so many Americans are highly deficient in fiber.

And yet we’ve come back around to a time in society where there’s so much overemphasis on a really high protein diet. And we know that the body doesn’t store protein per se. So you’re using a certain amount and then a certain amount would get stored as fat. And at the same time, it’s taking away a lot of the focus on eating whole plant foods, which are really diverse in different antioxidants and anti-inflammatory properties and phytonutrients. But…

Anyways, I don’t want to go too far down that rabbit hole. want to stick to our focus today, which is about practical eating for the season for events. And I want to talk a little bit about the protein powder controversy. So first of all, there are certain compounds which are naturally occurring in the environment. They’re in the soil. Some of them include heavy metals like lead and cadmium. Now,

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (06:58.834)
When this report came out, was showing that there was a certain amount of these protein powe, of these heavy metals that were found in protein powders. So I want to say off the bat that of course you want to use brands that are as pure as possible and do use third party testing, which is not a requirement in the supplement industry. It is not a requirement across the board. I will say that Saluna does

vigorous third-party testing for all of our products, by the way, from detoxi, our digestive enzymes, our spO probiotics, our glowing greens powder, and so on. We do that testing and you want to make sure that you’re using products that are doing that so that you have, you know, the cleanest products possible. However, there are so many different

toxins out there. I’ll focus on the lead in just a moment. For example, dioxin, which has been banned since the 70s, still persists in the environment and it has been shown to bioaccumulate in animals, particularly grass-fed animals, because it goes up the food chain. And so I don’t see a lot of news stories about that, but it has been shown in some research that eating animal products is a primary way to get

that environmentally or that banned substance, which is still in the environment, into the body. So just to give context that not everything is talked about, there’s certain things which seem to be selectively talked about. Now, plants do absorb minerals in the soil, and that’s true. But what’s interesting is that there is lead that we consume in micro amounts all the time.

from, let’s say, a tomato to eating a potato. And I’ll link to some of these tables that show, you know, spinach, lettuce, white bread. Many adults are naturally consuming 20 to 80 micrograms per day through foods, through water. So this consumer report study was showing that

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (09:18.038)
Yes, plant-based proteins would naturally have more lead because by virtue of the ingredients, whether it’s pea protein or perhaps brown rice or even cacao and chocolate, there’s going to be some naturally occurring lead, not just from the way that the product is necessarily manufactured, but actually because there’s some heavy metals in all foods, including plant foods. Now,

This may be something that’s cycled out more in, let’s say whey protein, for example, but that’s not true of other compounds, as I mentioned, such as dioxin. So it doesn’t mean that suddenly we should start consuming more animal proteins instead, because there’s other studies that show that is not the fact, that is not true. the California’s proposition 65,

is said to have a safe harbor level of 0.5 micrograms per day of lead, which is a thousand times lower than the level shown to cause harm. So the bottom line is that there’s naturally occurring trace amounts of heavy metals in our environment, in soil, and it’s our overall diet that we want to look at. Are we eating whole foods? Are we eating vegetables? Are we eating clean products? And

by different studies. So for example, some of these protein powders that were tested, different certifications, found no detectable lead above the 3.6 microgram testing threshold. So there’s stringent safety criteria. And then there’s consumer reports, know, taking these different levels and testing different products and saying, well, this is here. And, know, of course the word lead and cadmium and heavy metals is really scary to a lot of people.

Even though again, there’s so many other toxins, microplastics and fish. I mentioned the dioxin in animals. There’s so many different environmental toxins that aren’t being talked about. And so we’ll start to see more rebuttal about this protein controversy. I think in the next, if you’re listening to this in real time, few weeks to come. If you’re listening to this months or years down the road, this one might have already been established.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (11:41.954)
But I’ve been reading about it quite a bit and it just shows how again, you can extrapolate studies of findings and make it seem very scary for the media. So the bottom line is use clean protein powders of any kind, plant-based or not. You know, you don’t need to be having three, four protein shakes a day, but you can certainly have a power protein smoothie mixed in with other whole foods, the glowing green smoothie and other types of foods and vegetables.

and lentils and beans and all the other foods that we talk about in our diet, beauty detox slash saloon a diet. But do remember that small amounts are naturally occurring in plants. You could eat a tomato and get some lead and cadmium and it’s not overloading your body necessarily. And like I said, there’s a lot of introduced really scary toxins out there like microplastics, which I think we should be.

talking about more on a worldwide level. So I will link to some more of this information in the show notes if you’d like to read more about it. NPR did a great report as well as some other ones to sort of combat some of the hysteria that gets put out in the media. So we just really want to use our rationale and look more closely and look at beyond a particular news story.

So back to our topic, which is practical healthy food for events, travel, and everyday life. And I’ll start with everyday life and these some of these may be reminders and staples and things to just sort of keep in mind as we get into a more full time, shall we say, with the holidays coming up. And I just want to say that it is a really good idea to cook as many meals as possible at home.

And so Dan Buettner has a new Blue Zones book out and he was doing new research with Stanford. And I believe the number was 7.8 meals a week that the average American is having at home, which is at an all time low. And so I know sometimes it’s convenient, sometimes it’s fun to eat out, but there is enormous self-care benefits to cooking at home, very simple foods. So for example, this evening,

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (14:06.934)
My dad is here in town. My older son has a little bit of a cough. So I just made a really big pot of soup, which is simmering right now upstairs as I do this podcast with ginger and cumin and vegetables and red lentils and a big pot of rice. And it’s just a really favorite meal for our family to have soup and rice. It’s something that I also grew up eating with different types of soups growing up in a Filipina household.

But there’s something about one pot meals which is so accessible, so easy, so healing, feels so nourishing and comforting in this weather that I want to remind all of us how easy it really can be to make meals. You don’t need fancy recipes. We’re putting out, again, back to the newsletter, this really delicious pumpkin curry one pot meal that I made last week and it’s so delicious and so grounding with a pumpkin right on season, right on track.

And so in order to make this a reality, you just want to make sure that you have certain staples always at your home. And some of the staples that we keep in our family’s home are made a little list for you. Vegetable broth, because to be honest, I don’t always have time to make my own broth like I used to. Chickpeas, beans, and I do get organic cartons of beans. Sometimes I don’t always have time to cook beans from scratch. Red lentils, which I get in the bulk section at the store.

all different types of spices, almond flour wraps, hummus, and avocados. And I wrote both more ripe and less ripe. So you can get a variety, know, sometimes there’s just different types of avocados you can get. And if you have several that are more ripe, you can put them in the fridge because they will stop ripening. So you can make wraps and put them in salads for the days to come. And then the ones that aren’t ripe yet, of course you would leave on the countertop.

I know lemons look beautiful on the countertop, but I always keep my lemons in the fridge to preserve more of the vitamin C. And so besides one pot meals, it’s such a great season for keeping those very simple spices. Some of them are, you know, dried. Some of them can be fresh, just lemon and ginger. Keep it in your fridge so you can make these really simple, amazing elixirs, amazingly beneficial, letting the power of nature come in and heal your body.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (16:30.796)
And of course we have so many different elixir recipes on our website. I went back and looked at some of them the other day and was like, wow, this is a really good combination with saffron or with nutmeg. This is a great season for nutmeg, which is really great for heart health, by the way, and just feeling this opening happening through the heart, which is really beautiful. Particularly this season, it’s warming, there’s cinnamon. So I encourage you to just keep a couple staples.

And again, doesn’t have to be all the time, all the time to eat at home, but there is something really nurturing and easy and practical if we can work in. So for example, you could make a one pot meal, like I said, or you could roast some vegetables and then you could heat up some of those almond flour wraps and you could also have a veg, avocado wrap, kind of like a soup and salad. That’s a great meal. That’s actually great dinner, especially if you have beans and lentils in there, you’re getting great protein.

Another thing that I do, and you could call it a bowl, you could call it a collection of sides, I think that well-prepared separate dishes that you put together are really delicious. So another meal that my family has all the time is the Dharma’s kale salad with rice and beans. I mean, how simple is that? My kids actually love the kale salad now. I add extra nutritional yeast. It tastes really cheesy to them.

And then I’ll just make a really simple preparation with black beans as their favorite, and then rice. And then the three components are on the plates and my older son likes to mash them all together. My younger son likes to keep them separate. I usually keep them a little bit separate. I top all of it with micro greens. And it’s just these really simple meals that make meal planning easy. It makes you focus on what you need to keep in stock at home.

So this is something that’s actually doable. And then if you want to add some fun, you could chop in veggies, you could make them more Mexican flavors. Sometimes we bust out the salsa and some corn chips that are cooked in coconut oil or something a little bit cleaner without seed oils. And, or we’ll just use the almond flour wraps to make soft tacos. It’s very simple how we eat, but very

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warming, would say, very nourishing. Often when I’m playing chess or we’re doing homework, I’m also baking sweet potatoes or squash. My little one loves kabocha squash. And so there’s just these sort of components. And I bring this up because I don’t like to make a lot of fancy recipes where I have to stare at something and there’s 20 different, you know, steps. I just don’t think I would do it. I don’t think I would. It wouldn’t make me cook at home more. So I bring this up because I just wanted to

feel like I can do this. And yeah, I can make that for my family or myself or me and my roommate or me and my mom or whoever you happen to be cooking for, whoever you happen to be living with. You can make things adjust to your taste. We have a lot of minestrone, minestrone soup, however you say it, which my older son loves. So sometimes we use Italian seasoning and rosemary sometimes in our sweet potatoes or potatoes. do like

red jacket potatoes as well. So there’s many different ways that you can customize it, but it can be very simple. Now let’s talk about travel for a moment. And like I said, had a trough, a trough, had a tough travel week. We had this gorgeous time in Hawaii. I’ll share with you that we planted 60 baby cacao trees in our nursery, which fell.

just so enlivening, so fulfilling. And then I’ll say that some of the trees that we had planted from seeds just a few years ago, about three years ago, are now producing pods. For me, it’s such an honor and a blessing to work with trees and plants and land. And so it was really beautiful, but we often do take the red eye home and the kids sleep on me and I don’t get a lot of sleep, so my sleep schedule’s thrown off and then I turned around and…

did a quick one night trip to Austin. So I know travel well, and like I said, this could be a road trip, or it could be, you know, as you start to get ready for the holidays or weekend trip or camping trip or whatever it is. So one of the things that I wanted to mention to you that really keep me going, because it’s hard to make smoothies sometimes when you’re traveling, but you do want to take your digestive enzymes, very important.

Solluna By Kimberly Snyder (21:21.09)
You want to take your detoxi so that you keep eliminating. There’s nothing worse than being constipated when you’re traveling. And when I’m traveling, I do take my detoxi, four capsules for me every night. For you, maybe one, maybe two, maybe three. For me, four has always been my magic number. So you can play with that a little bit. You definitely don’t want to have diarrhea, but you definitely want to have a very full evacuation, shall we say. You know, once, twice.

Maybe even three times a day or more for some people. For me, my sweet spot when I have four capsules is at least twice a day. And the SBO probiotics. So that’s something you definitely can take while you’re traveling. You can take your Glow-in-Greens powder and just mix it with water. That’s what I did. I didn’t have an opportunity to blend anything when I was in Austin. But there’s two things that really helped me and that is hummus.

and nuts for travel. Now I bring up hummus because if you are traveling you can pack, I take hummus wraps with tons of micro greens or if I’m in the airport I can find hummus and have a huge amount of it that I put on a salad and trail mix is something that keeps me and my kids full when we’re traveling.

You wanna make sure to make your own trail mix really simply. We love golden raisins, we love goji berries, we’ll use organic almonds, my kids do love cashews. And you wanna make sure that you’re not getting nuts that have seed oils in them. That’s one of the problems sometimes with some of the commercial trail mixes. But if you can find it.

You know, lot of airports now have some healthier options. So you can get dry roasted nuts or raw nuts with raisins, that’s a much better option. So when we were coming back from Hawaii, I had a big bag of Trail Mix. in Trail Mix and in Austin, I was traveling with bananas. My kids also love to eat strawberries and oranges. Depending where you’re traveling, we’re not allowed to take fresh produce from the island back.

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and you can’t land with fresh produce, so you want to make sure to eat those blueberries or whatever it is on the plane. But again, trail mix and hummus, such great travel foods and something nuts of all different kinds. Find the kind that you like, mulberries, find the sort of dried fruit that you want to have. There’s lots of fiber, there’s lots of antioxidants. It may not be something that you would eat all the time on a daily basis.

but I really stand by it as amazing travel staples. Now events, I know how many different parent meetings I have right now that are on the schedule, work meetings. Like I said, we just had a trip we did in Austin. Sometimes there’s events for your friend group or your church or your synagogue or your Templar.

mosque or wherever you happen to go, whatever it is, there’s always stuff sometimes that we have to go to. And I’ll say that I had a tough string of events where there was just a lot of animal products. There was a lot of meat and a lot of salmon and things like that. But one of my saviors at this event was once again, hummus.

And it was sort of in the, you know, the crudite table. There was, you know, what most people would consider some sides. I was able to eat a bunch of olives, which kept me full, and a bunch of hummus and some veggies and string something together, which had fiber, has protein, has fat and was, you know, somewhat healthy so that I could eat there. I will say that I also suspected

that I would have troubles eating at some of these events. So I do eat before I go. And you’re back to the title of our show, practical food. Sometimes it’s a good idea to do that. Sometimes whether it’s having a smoothie or a bowl of soup or a wrap or some type of food that you prepare at home means that you’re not gonna be starving and resort to eating a ton of, you know,

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just chips and salsa at the party or just be uncomfortable there and eat a lot of bread or something that you might not feel really good afterwards. So just a little bit of future planning and part of my getting ready for events besides putting makeup on, which I don’t usually wear very much is making sure I eat before events. And if there’s food there that I like, great. And maybe I’ll eat some, maybe not as much because I’m not so starving.

But in the worst case where you don’t have a lot of food that you could eat at the party, you’ve prepared. Now, something I used to do and, you know, depending on your comfort level is you could even carry some of that trail mix in your purse or some emergency snacks, which could be a, you know, even a protein bar. You know, sometimes we realize we don’t eat as perfectly as we would at home with fresh whole foods.

But it’s better than starving. It’s better than nothing. It’s a great, um, you know, so you can feel grounded in your body. You can enjoy the conversation. You don’t have to be so hyper fixated on not eating or eating really poorly and then not really be present with what you’re there for, which is to connect with other humans or to hear some, you know, important information about the school or about work or whatever it is. We want to become more neutral with our foods, which means they’re not an emotional projection.

Right? We become more neutral in our hearts. We become more, we have different tools. We could do the heart aligned meditation before we go, the heart aligned steady in life. So we’re not emotionally projecting so much into food. It just becomes our only outlet for feeling good or feeling a treat. And at the same time, it’s not all the huge focus of our party or our events or travel is just thinking about food. But when I say neutral, it means

We’re able to nourish ourselves so that we feel more satiated. But then we expand out our energy into again, being present, enjoying the conversation, maybe on the plane, just having time to be quiet or still or read a book or enjoy time with our loved ones, whatever it is, but not so obsessed with food. And this becomes a really important part of our healing journey as we continue.

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and we deepen into this lifestyle, there’s more of a balance between the four cornerstones, right? Food, body, emotional well-being, and spiritual growth. It’s very natural in the beginning, and this is the path for me, to think about food so much and to plan and to plot and to wonder if I was getting enough protein or wonder if I was eating too many carbs or whatever it is. And then you realize over time it starts to become more simple, more neutral, more easeful.

And same thing with your body, your body’s there, you want to honor it, you want to take care of it, but it just becomes much more easy to take care of your body, easeful, right? Starting with digestion, starting with connecting with your heart, which I talk about in the new book, The Hidden Power, The Five Hearts, and just these life-changing practices, which have really shifted and transitioned my energy so much. And then you start to realize, hey, some amount of my struggles with digestion, with anxiety, with

My food are because I haven’t been taking care of my emotions so much or my spiritual growth Which is connecting to this part of me which never ages and doesn’t judge and never gets sick It’s beyond all that this really eternal part of me that the more I connect with again. It creates more neutrality with food it creates more Witnessing and allowing digestions to dissolve and

be felt and passed through and not putting our whole identity in everything that’s happening, right? So everything starts to balance each other. And at the same time that that’s happening, like we’re talking about today, and this is exactly how I would speak to a client about this. And this is why I wanted to have this very real conversation with you is that we need these practical tools as well in order to help us usher in

higher levels of real wellness, real vitality, real, just, you to me, real well-being is when we’re not so obsessed with our food and our body. It’s functioning really well. We’re healthier than ever. Immunity is up. We have hormonal balance. Our digestion is focusing great. Our skin is glowing. Everything is working really well. But at the same time, more and more of our energy is being directed to creative pursuits.

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to deepening our love and connection and our relationships, to sitting in more time in meditation and stillness, finding more of this peace unfolding from within us. So it doesn’t have to be so important, everything about food, but at the same time, we wanna have these tools and tips and guardrails to facilitate that happening, if that makes sense. And that’s why on our website, we have so many.

hundreds, thousands of recipes to help guide you so you can feel like you have a real support partner in this and to guide you in getting comfortable with cooking in these simple, nutritious ways and having staples at home and having a few things that you remember to bring when you’re traveling or, you know, eating a little bit of healthy food before you go to that party. And these small, simple steps really add up to less extremes, to less

Well, I’m eating perfectly and then I have all these events and so I’m so off on the weekend and I feel so bloated by Monday and like back and forth. It just keeps you more neutral, more centered, more in your true energy and wellbeing, which again is not extremes on either side. So I hope this gave you some really practical information that will support you in your amazing journey.

which is unique to you and you alone. So as always, I encourage you to use your intuition to see what foods are calling you, what dishes. I know for me right now, lots of soup, lots of warming foods, still some raw foods, still microgreens, still the Glowing Greens smoothie, but definitely more warm foods at dinner. And just a little bit more quiet and less, again, in the midst of all these events, just more time at home, less, you know, when I can choose to not be.

as social and be out, that feels really good to me right now. Lots of journaling, lots of cuddly time with my kids, my husband. Yeah, lots of sunlight. About to go for a walk after this. I’m gonna check on the soup. So remember, I’m always here to support. You can find me as well on Instagram at underscore Kimberly Snyder. We also have a tab on the podcast.

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at mysalooner.com. We’re not doing our weekly Q &A show anymore, but we do a monthly power hour show. I encourage you to go back and listen to the October show. We’ll have the November one coming up. So I definitely love to hear your comments and questions and that helps to inform our articles, our podcasts. I’d love to hear what’s on your mind. I love to hear else I can support you. I’m very much on the journey with you.

and I’m looking out for you. So reach out anytime, sending you so much love. We’ll be back here in a few days with our next interview show. Till then, take great care and sending you so much love.