How To Reorganize Your Schedule to Recharge Your Vitality and Lose Weight with Dr. Suhas [Episode #757]

This week’s topic is: How To Reorganize Your Schedule to Recharge Your Vitality and Lose Weight with Dr. Suhas

I am so excited to have my very special guest, Dr. Suhas, who is a Best-Selling Author, Motivational Speaker and an acclaimed Educator in the field of Ayurveda & Integrative Medicine, and a classically trained Ayurvedic Physician with over 30 years of Clinical Experience. Listen in as Dr. Suhas shares how Ayurveda can support past trauma and mental health, clock genes and what they are, how much caffeine is healthy, freeing yourself from blockages to live up to your full potential, and so much more!

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• Western research supports the wisdom of Ayurveda…
• How Ayurveda can support past trauma and mental health…
• What clock genes are in relation to your health…
• Thoughts on caffeine and how much is healthy…
• Listening to your body’s signals for optimum sleep…
• Freeing yourself from blockages and living up to your potential…

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About Dr. Suhas 

Dr. Suhas is a classically trained Ayurvedic Physician with over 30 years of Clinical Experience. He is a Best-Selling Author, Motivational Speaker and an acclaimed Educator in the field of Ayurveda & Integrative Medicine. He has traveled around the globe popularizing Ayurveda, Yoga, Meditation & Natural Medicine. He has Chaired & designed curriculums for several Ayurvedic schools including Mount Madonna College of Ayurveda, Kerala Ayurveda Academy and Maharishi University. He is an adviser to National Ayurvedic Medical Association.

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Namaste loves and welcome to our Monday interview podcast. I have a wonderful guest for you today, Dr. Sujas, who is a renowned Ayurvedic physician. He’s been in clinical practice for over 30 years. He’s a bestselling author. He has a new book out called Change Your Schedule, change Your Life, which is based on very powerful veic principles for how we can really create more health and vitality in our life. Now, I originally met Dr. Suhas through our mutual friend and colleague, Dr. Deepak Chopra, and as a advisor to the Chopra Center. Dr. Suhas was always around at the conferences. He’d be speaking, I’d be speaking, and I started listening to his talks and just being completely enraptured with all of his wisdom and his knowledge. So I am very excited to share him with you on the show today. And he just has a lot of actual tips and practices that we could employ, and that’s really what I appreciate is the practical nature of his teaching.

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The new book, you are more than You Are More More Than You Think You Are – Practical Enlightenment For Everyday Life, or a latest book, I shall Say, is out now in paperback. So you can pick it up wherever books are sold. It’s a very practical guide for reshaping your whole life and your health and your wellness and your abundance and your creativity from the inside out. Just like you can change your skin and your hair from the inside out. So too can you change your relationships and your abundance work success and many, pretty much everything from the inside out. So all that being said, I’m very excited to introduce our guest today, Dr. Suhas.

Interview with Dr. Suhas

Kimberly: 02:48 Dr. Suhas, welcome to the show. I’m so excited to chat with you today. We’ve known each other for years and years through our mutual friend, Dr. Deepak Chopra, and I’m so excited for our conversation.

Dr. Suhas: 03:01 Thank you, Kimberly. And thank you for having me here today.

Kimberly: 03:05 And I love your new book, change Your Schedule, change Your Life, how to Harness The Power of Clock Jeans to lose weight, optimize Your Workout, and Finally get a Good Night’s Sleep. So, congratulations. I love this one. I’ve read your other books. This one really spoke to me, and I think this one is so needed in today’s world.

Dr. Suhas: 03:27 Absolutely. Because what the reason why I wrote this book is our Lives has gotten very busy. Yes. And I practice here in the Bay Area, and I see this, um, trend of busyness at the cost of happiness. And, and Ayurveda is, is a lifestyle medicine. I like to call Ayurveda as the original lifestyle medicine. And the reason what I mentioned in the book about what an ideal daily routine looks like, an ideal seasonal routine looks like, because it’s not what you do, but when you do is much more important. And that’s the reason that this change your schedule, change your life is a perfect, perfect template to understand and synchronize your circadian rhythms of light and darkness. Write down to the cellular level, to the genetic level, I would say,

Kimberly: 04:18 Well, in the modern world, doctor, as you know, people get so busy, and then we tend to take this reductionist approach of, oh, I read this is the popular diet, or this is the popular workout or the food. And yet we are still so intrinsically connected to nature. We are part of nature and we can’t get away from these rhythms. The circadian rhythm, the, the, you know, it’s part of nature, and so it’s part of our wellbeing.

Dr. Suhas: 04:42 I think that’s a very important point that you bring up. And Kimberly, I really appreciate all the work that you have put in, in educating people through your books, through your work, and probably helping them understand that, uh, you are a hundred percent made in nature and made by nature. So you can only nurture and nourish whether you talk about external beauty or internal beauty through the elements of nature itself. And that’s what Ayurveda is. It’s a natural medicine. And I see so many patients in my clinical practice who sleep when they want, they eat whenever they want, they have sex whenever they want, and they want to find a natural solution for their unnatural living, which is not always possible.

Kimberly: 05:27 Right. And, and there’s just so much confusion I find today, doctor, we get fed all these different little pieces of information or people read the news or they see something on social media. And what I love about the system of Ayurveda, it’s, it’s based in nature. It’s holistic. It has to do, as you said, with happiness and the mind. And now what I also love about your book is there’s so much clinical research, western research, backing up this wisdom of Ayurveda, which has been around for 5,000 years.

Western research supports the wisdom of Ayurveda

Dr. Suhas: 05:56 Well, it’s finally catching up. And every new headline that we see as a scientific, uh, new research is literally validating all the ancient principles of Ayurveda <laugh>. And whether, whether this specific topic, going back to this and where our practice in, in the Silicon Valley, in the Bay Area, these busy work schedule dominate your physiology, emails, texts, voice messages, Skype, WhatsApp, Instagram, social media, Twitter. And people are becoming what I call it, as time poor and cash rich. They’re making more money, but they don’t have time for themselves. And you and me believe in self-care routine and self-care rituals. And if you don’t time for yoga or to cook your own meal for God’s sake, or close your eyes for few minutes every day, then there’s no point in running around. And this is a perennial what time? Scarcity, because about, I think 17th or 18th century, we started clocking, um, time in relation to money. This many hours you work, this is how much you get paid. And now time is in re in relation to money. Once the hours that we have in the day are financially quantified, then wasting, saving or even using time relates to profits and Right. That is an equation that many people struggle with, that they don’t understand their own health as their own investment and their full-time job. The rest all comes as a byproduct of it.

Kimberly: 07:33 Well, this form of success or idea of success, like you said, that’s very linear at, you know, accumulating wealth. And you know what’s amazing doctors, sometimes I reflect on this, how much wisdom comes from India. You know, my, my guru is Paramahansa Yogananda, and my last book was bringing forth his teachings for the modern world. As you know, he came to the west talking about yoga and meditation and teachings, and now Ayurveda is becoming really popular and they’re studying all the herbs. But it’s amazing how this one center in the world has had all these incredible rishi’s and teachers for centuries, and it’s spreading globally. It’s just, it’s a very special place in the world. Well,

Dr. Suhas: 08:17 Beante itself is, is the essence of all the waic wisdom, and a is a part of waic literature, and it’s a tradition, uh, of sages and seas and wishes. And we literally carry forward disinformation, which literally allows you to understand that consciousness is primary, and whatever you do is in relation with your awakened state of mindfulness and realization. And then what the way you live, the choices that you make has to be from a consciousness perspective. I like to define Aveda as a consciousness based, uh, healthcare system, um, for health and vitality. Yes. And more importantly, more importantly, we also see that, uh, when, uh, people are being a little bit more mindful, they are careful and choosing and making the right choices, they’re being self peripheral, they’re a little bit more quiet and centered in making the right choices, I think they become much more productive. And their mindset slowly shifts and changes and mm-hmm. <affirmative> meditation is not waste of time, but actually makes you more productive and it actually organizes your time. And there’s a lot of research where it says that multitasking is actually a waste of time,

Kimberly: 09:40 <laugh>. So I have so many questions about the book. I wanted you to, a, I wanted to ask you one question as you’re talking Dr. Suhas, a little bit off topic, and then we’ll get back in. But there’s so much today around trauma and mental health, just being this, you know, a lot of people are really stressed and they have different issues from the past. How does Ayurveda address that? I mean, part of it is what you’re talking about in the book, I think the Dina Chaya putting your body on a daily routine. But what would Ayurveda say if we have some real wounds, emotional, mental wounds from the past? How can Ayurveda support that healing?

How Ayurveda can support past trauma and mental health

Dr. Suhas: 10:17 It’s a great question. And I’m an astrologer. I practice medical astrology, Kimberly, and people come to me

Kimberly: 10:23 With, oh, I’m, I’m gonna go to you for that.

Dr. Suhas: 10:26 Absolutely. And I, I look at their date, place, and time of birth and unfold their whole karmic journey while wow, things are happening at certain phases and stages in their life. So from a medical astrology perspective, one is unfolding the karma, understanding the destiny, understanding the purpose, and how we can give them the tools to transcend those limitations. Wow. Cause you can’t re literally linger in the past when something good happened, because astrology is not a tool to, to understand the punishment that was given to you, but actually empowers you to rise above that. Because the, even in modern psychology, it used to be in the olden days that who did what to you and how was, uh, you affected by something or victim, victim of something. But now it’s all about positive psychology. What can you do for yourself? And so the daily routine, the seasons, the food, the detoxification, the cleansing at the cellular level, because we understand body has three concentric circles, and you are familiar with beanta.

11:36 So the outer layer of the body is called a [inaudible], which is the physical body, bones, muscles, tissues, tendons, ligaments, as the carpet of the body just tucked underneath that is the sok, which is the subtle body where your mind feeling sensory experiences, emotions are stuck just underneath that capsule. And the deepest layer of our body is called this current, which is the causal body, which is the field of, or consciousness as such. So you have to either go from outside to inside, or you have to go from inside to outside. And I, that is all from healing from within. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, we allow people to actually tap into their causal self to be connected with their immortal self from where the polish of their old traumas and belief system and challenges through meditation, through spiritual work, through sata, through good company, through bending, twisting, turning their body through physical detoxification, through emotional lenses and detoxification. We guide them, support them, and slowly they help understand that how they can purify themselves at all that level and become more and more resilient. And I have helped thousands of people who have incredible gone through those things. And the research says, and it’s a, it’s not something that we should be proud of in the country, that about 60% of all the kids between the age of three to 13 receive some degree of physical, mental, sexual, or verbal abuse.

Kimberly: 13:08 Wow.

Dr. Suhas: 13:09 And a hundred percent of those kids at 30, 40 years of age will develop an autoimmune condition, which they have no clue where it came from. Mm-hmm. So if you don’t erase those things or eliminate those challenges that are limiting you, you will not only create a medical condition, which will be difficult, but you will also create restricted stunted growth in your life. The relationship that you manifest, uh, the success that you get in your life all depends upon how you can free yourself from those experiences.

Kimberly: 13:44 Wow. And so powerful in this holistic approach is because we’re whole beings, the only way to really create that deep lasting shift across

Dr. Suhas: 13:54 All the, and, and one thing we can really appreciate about you, because earlier it was thought that it just a talk therapy, that you tell them that who did what to you, your neighbor did something to you. But now forget about that. You get back onto a vegan diet, a good plant-based diet. You fill your body with tons of bioflavonoid, spider nutrients, uh, real smart, intelligent foods. You undergo a cleanse through liver, kidney detox through skin. You eliminate those things. You lead a little pure lifestyle with breathing, exercise with meditation. You go to sleep at a proper time, you exercise, you sweat, and suddenly you realize that your mind is behaving differently. Hmm. You’re using your body to literally quiet and purify your mind, which is, uh, a huge shift in modern psychology and psychiatry, I would say.

Kimberly: 14:49 Huge shift. And it’s so empowering. So let’s get back to the book. Doctor, I have so many questions for you. Again, change your schedule, change your life. First I wanna ask you about this, um, phrase in your subtitle, clock jeans, which a lot of us haven’t heard about, and you go into it in the book. But can you give us a little bit of the top line info about clock jeans?

What clock genes are in relation to your health

Dr. Suhas: 15:10 Clock genes are the genes. And this is not only in human beings, but it’s present in every living entity. Even the earlier studies that was done on a single cellular organism, okay. So that we have 50 trillion cells. And, um, a noble prize was awarded to three American physiologists who discovered the activity of the clock jeans, which simply means that these jeans have the ability to calibrate what is happening outside your window. So it means they keep a track of time, the old school walls, that when you wake up and when you look at light, the light hits your eyes and hits your retina. And that signal of light is sent to a little area in your brain, deeply ingrained in hypothalamus, an area which is almost a, a shape and size of a grain of rice, which is so tiny. It’s called a supra nucleus.

16:10 And that reads that this is daylight and it sends messages to every cell and gene in the body that it’s daytime, and we need to do, uh, activity related with that. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So that was old school of thought. Now we know that these genes, clot genes are so smart that don’t know exactly what is happening, and they’re calibrating themselves, they’re calibrating themselves to the cycles of day and night light and darkness. But the problem is, it is doing its job, but if we are not doing our job at the same time to sink activity that we are doing what the body’s trying to do, that’s where it creates a circadian disruption. For example, the body’s trying to do the repair, the immune system regulating, um, bacteri fag activity, cleansing immune system modulation between 10 and two in the night. And you are busy binging on Netflix, uh, up to one o’clock in the night, and you are awake and you are snacking, um, on a bucket full of ice cream at the same time then that you throw a wrench in what the body’s trying to do and what you are trying to do. And people do this all the time. And that’s what I notice, that’s the reason why I wrote this book, because what, what I see that, that, um, people were not only sleeping at a proper time, but even exercise as healthy as exercise. Uh, I can’t even believe that we have places that are open 24 7 that you can go and exercise whenever you want. And I see people running on treadmill in the middle of night.

Kimberly: 17:46 I I see that

Dr. Suhas: 17:47 <laugh>, there’s a purpose. Okay? There’s a, a purpose that the birds that every species in the universe knows from dawn to dusk what to do. Okay? They leave the nest at dawn, they come back at dusk, and they follow the routines of nature. It’s only us that are doing weird things at different times. Yes. So we are not eating the right food at the right time. We eat whenever we have time in between the meetings, throughout the day, we exercise whenever we get a chance to do something. Um, same with sleep. The world gets a little more priority now, this sleep wake up cycle is either we are online or offline. That’s, that’s the challenge with this modern world because, um, it’s, it’s not eight to five shift anymore. Right. You start, the first thing people do when they wake up is look at their phone. And the last thing, what they do is look at their phone before they close their eyes. It’s not them, it’s their schedule, which is literally killing them. It’s the schedule.

Kimberly: 18:47 Let’s, let’s unpack. They’ll unpack some of this. Doctor, let’s start with sleep for a minute. And I love this part in the book where you talk about the Ayurvedic day and you divide it into segments. And one thing that really struck me was where you write about wake up time. And if we wake up before six, we’re in Vata period, I think there’s more energy. And if you, if you ever wake up past six, six to 10, we’re in Kaa. So we’re always going to feel more sluggish. Now, thankfully, I have a very, two very young children, so I’m always up before six and not before five. But a lot of people, doctor, like, you know, wake up at 6 30, 8 30. So everybody across the board should try to change their wake up a little bit earlier. Or what would you suggest?

Waking up and going to bed at a proper time for daily self-renewal

Dr. Suhas: 19:32 Well, ideally it means, uh, yeah. It’s, it’s, every functioning of our physiology is related with the sunrise and sunset. Because whether you like it or not, our planet is swirling around sun at a dizzying speed. It is moving on its own orbit. While it is moving at that speed, the day and night are created, the seasons are created. Our job helplessly is to live in accordance with the laws of nature. We actually accumulate toxins when all the experiences are not metabolized completely. We need daily cell Nia. So simply waking up at a proper time and going to bed at a proper time is a daily self-renewal.

Kimberly: 20:17 Yes.

Dr. Suhas: 20:18 Diversification, purification, rejuvenation, just with that, because there’s an age old, uh, definition of enlightenment. You eat when you are hungry, you sleep when you are tired. Right? It’s by a physical and emotional digestive system. You have to harmonize your internal rhythms with the cost me rhythm. Because what we see these rhythms are circadian rhythms of 24 hours of day and night. Seasonal rhythms of 12 month cycles of Earth around the sun there, lunar rhythms, monthly cycle of moon around earth. You have new moon, full moon, there are tidal rhythms, which are gravitational influence of the moon on water. And you, our body is 70 80% water. So there’s an ocean that swells up and goes up and down. And there are cell still rhythm that as an astrologer that I see that people are going through planetary cycles, Saturn cycle, Jupiter cycles, Saturn return retrograde mercury, you are affected by these heavenly bodies also.

21:17 Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And on top of that, I whether understand that the dosha clock, the word dosha means the biological, uh, components of space, air, fire, water, and earth. They’re called as [inaudible]. So 2:00 AM to 6:00 AM in the morning is the time of bath. So ideally you should wake up around six o’clock around that time, little bit earlier because it’s fresh. The nature is waking up, you wake up the rising activity, you need to really get active and meditate because there are two poles of the day, north pole and south pole, dawn and dusk. So you should always start at that junction point with some self peripheral, mindful meditative exercise with yourself. Six to 10:00 AM is the time of kafa. Kafa is the time. Six to 10:00 AM you, so you’re slowly waking up after 7, 8, 9 hours of sleep. So exercise is the most important thing that you need to do before breakfast. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And there was a research that I mentioned in my book that if you do 20 minutes of brisk cardiovascular exercise before breakfast every day, it reduces all causes of mortality by about 43%.

Kimberly: 22:32 Wow.

Dr. Suhas: 22:33 It’s phenomenal reason 20 minutes of brisk cardiovascular exercise in the cover time before breakfast. And the breakfast has to be pacified because we can’t eat sugary foods for pacifying cover sugary residuals or

Kimberly: 22:49 Too many things. You read that in the book, or you said it’s like it is junk food, the cold sugar cereal

Dr. Suhas: 22:56 <laugh>. It is. And, and bagels and donuts and things like that. So it has to be warm, it has to be small, uh, in quantity. So that should be your breakfast, because imagine that your digestion, agony fire that we talk about is the expression of sun. So when the sun is coming out in the morning, it’s a tender sunlight. Is that right? It’s a tender sunlight. So agoni is barely waking up. Yeah. You can’t have a heavy breakfast and eat like a king at breakfast. And that’s, that’s a misunderstanding.

Kimberly: 23:27 Yes, I wholeheartedly agree. So it feels sluggish.

Dr. Suhas: 23:30 It’s sluggish, it makes you feel dull and heavy and sluggish. So you give little nutrition to the, to the body at that couple time and be ready for when the sun is at its peak, at its zeni between 10 to two, uh, pm which is around 12:12 PM in the middle of night, the body gets warm hotter. The largest meal of the day should be consumed. So you consume most of the calories at your midday meal at lunch, and you are active throughout the day. Your acnes are strong. It is able to digest, metabolize everything properly. Two to 6:00 PM is the time of bath. It could get still a lot of work done, focused, productive. But a lot of cardiovascular exercise, activity, walk, yoga, meditation, all of that can be done around 5, 5 30, 6 o’clock in the evening. As again, the sun is fading away. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> and the sun is setting around that time. 6, 6 30. We should again go back to a lighter dinner. Mm-hmm. Because in the solar nutrition, when the sun is weak, in the morning you have lighter breakfast, sun is at peak, you have a heavy meal. And then when it’s fading away in the evening, and the most important thing is that what you’re going to do after dinner and couple of hours after dinner, you’re going to rest and you’re going to go to sleep. So you can’t go to sleep with a big heavy meal sitting in your belly without being digested.

Kimberly: 24:55 Doctor, can I ask, oh, sorry. Keep going.

Dr. Suhas: 24:58 Can I see so many patients who think that their biggest meal that they can finally sit down and eat after all the work done is 7 30, 8 o’clock in the evening, and by nine 30 or 10 they’re asleep. And that food just stays in the system without being digested and metabolized. It makes them feel wake up, sleepy, sluggish, heavy, tired, coffee swollen, and you keep on adding extra amounts of caffeine, which disrupts your, and you start a vicious a cycle. So make sure that you have a lighter dinner. Six to 10:00 PM is the time for kaa. One more time. So the last bus that helps you for a good night’s sleep is by 10:00 PM Mm. And 10:00 PM to 2:00 AM in the night is a fifth. That time where the body’s active, but it is doing a lot of detoxification, repair work, cleansing work in the night when you are a still, and it’s like a virus scan that is scheduled around that time.

25:55 And when you’re awake, the body doesn’t do its activity. Ah. And then you wake up with a compromised immune system with a rampant inflammation. And that’s what we saw during pandemic, is that right? Yes. We saw during pandemic where people were creating an inflammatory atmosphere, a cytokine storm for the virus to respond to. And they were dying because the body was so inflamed, they were so erratic, and people were binging on television shows. The alcohol cells went up by 600 person, they were eating mostly junk food. They were not able to go out. And that was not a healthy lifestyle to during the pandemic. Yeah. And unfortunately, the country, the top doctors and educators did not us any tools apart from washing our hands and put the mask. No tool was given to us. Nothing. No. Nobody talked about, for God sake, nobody take vitamin C or drink hot water.

26:54 Means the government of India did that. And I was very impressed by that as a poor country. They told their people to drink hot water, to go to sleep at a proper time, stay away from alcohol, eat lots of vegetables, make sure you have a good bowel moment every day, put some drops of some oil in your nose. So these are simple tips to, to prevent any kind of, uh, um, viral or bacterial infection of any kind. So these cycles that I am mentioning in the book are, are very well validated, validated by the modern, uh, peak time functions of what the body’s trying to do. And we understand that from midnight to noon to am to pm what the body’s trying to do in terms of blood sugar regulation, in terms of, uh, uh, the activity of the immune system, cholesterol, lipid synthesis, they’re all cyclical clockwork activities and clock genes regulate those things. So we want to use our clock genes in accordance with what we were doing. And that is the very premise and the message of the book. I would say,

Kimberly: 28:04 Well, it, it’s such powerful wisdom for people to actually be aware of, like you said, doctor, if more people had access to this during the pandemic, obviously a lot of people would’ve been able to prevent a lot of, um, you know, the more, uh, dire circumstances. It, it makes me a little sad that this isn’t more prevalent, but that’s where our work is today, Dr. Getting this out there. So I have two questions about sleep before we move on. You mentioned 7, 8, 9 hours based on your dosha or your body type. Is there, um, there’s a range in which you can go to sleep before 10. Some people need more sleep than others, would you say? And number two, if we do eat in or we do sleep in accordance with our natural body type, we wake up before six, we go to sleep, we get 7, 8, 9 hours. Does Ayurveda believe that we then naturally don’t really need caffeine? Or is it okay to still have one cup of coffee or two

Thoughts on caffeine and how much is healthy

Dr. Suhas: 29:01 Again means, uh, as you said that butter people who are a little bit more sensitive, they need more sleep, they need their beauty sleep, as you say.

Kimberly: 29:10 That’s, that’s me. Va <laugh>.

Dr. Suhas: 29:13 And they have to get minimum 7, 8, 9 hours. And for those people, their sleep is very sensitive. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So last thing, what they do in the night before the sleep haunts them in their sleep. Mm-hmm. And so if you’re watching a while in movie, if you’re having, uh, an argument over phone with someone, or you are looking at your office email that you’re worried about next day it is going to haunt your sleep. So for Vata people, their evening sleep routine is very important. They need to really stop working. They need to avoid the blue li blue lights. They, they can massage the sos of their feet. They can take a hot bath or a hot shower, um, um, if they can tolerate some almond milk or golden milk as we prepare. And we can’t keep it enough on our shelves. We have this beautiful product with turmeric and cinnamon and saffrin nutmeg, which is delicious.

30:08 You can prepare a warm beverage of golden milk before sleep. So for wata people, you need 7, 8, 9 hours of sleep. And for them, they’re very sensitive to caffeine. So I would not recommend that to a Wata person to have caffeine. As such. For <inaudible> person, they get very flushed and warm in the middle of the night. So they can, they definitely need moderate amount of sleep up to six to eight hours, but they run very hot. Yeah. And so they need to cool down before they go to sleep. So they want to have their room, um, really completely dark, not having any light in there, soundproof to a certain extent, and soak their feet or rinse their feet with cool water before they go to sleep. So it kind of puts, pulls a lot of heat from their head to their toes. So that cooling sensation actually helps them sleep better and calmer in the night. Otherwise, their challenge is they wake up in the wee hours in the morning and they start thinking and planning about their work. Mm-hmm. So <inaudible> people, uh, I think they can go with healthier versions of caffeine. I would say maybe green tea, yerba latte, things like that. Even if they have a diluted, uh, coffee with 50% decaf or something, uh, is good. Too much of caffeine for Pitta people makes them really dry, depleted, overly aggressive, uh, irritable, grumpy, and, uh, even more, um, difficult to be around. So, wait,

Kimberly: 31:36 I’m, I’m laughing doctor cuz my husband is, is Pitta and he has a lot of coffee. I’m gonna tell him, you need to chill with your caffeine.

Dr. Suhas: 31:44 Well, it does make them a little bit more aggressive and, uh, table and maybe ungrounded, so mm-hmm. <affirmative>, it’s like, um, throwing alcohol and caffeine is the same effect on a Pitta person is throwing Carin on fire or something.

Kimberly: 32:01 Wow. Wow. That’s powerful way to put it.

Dr. Suhas: 32:04 Increase their fire. It makes them a little bit more ungrounded. And with the people when they’re in a southwick mode, they can change the world because they, for eating bitter green plant-based diet for them makes them southwick. They have the energy, they have the drive, they have the dynamism, they can change the world. So, wow. I think that is important for a KAA person though they need less sleep. Okay. It doesn’t mean that they should, they should sleep at one o’clock in the night. They should sleep at the same time. But ideally they should wake up early and make sure that they do a brisk physical exercise in the morning that is a body type that is suitable for a bitter warm cup of caffeine in the morning because they are not, their sleep patterns are not affected by, by caffeine as much. But again, not overdoing the caffeine, but that’s the only body type that I would allow them to have some degree of bitterest stringent caffeine or something like that. And caffeine is also diuretic. So, uh, KAA people tend to retain water, they retain fluids. So a gentle diuretic is actually good for them to get rid of that. So, uh, having less sleep for KAA person is good morning exercise, much more brisk and vigorous for a KA type, not that strenuous for a pit type. Little bit more stretching, yoga centered for AVA type. So again, diet, sleep, and exercise. These are the three signals.

Kimberly: 33:33 Mm-hmm. <affirmative> mm-hmm. <affirmative>

Dr. Suhas: 33:34 Three signal that you give to your body that you are in touch with Mother nature.

Kimberly: 33:42 Well, there’s a

Dr. Suhas: 33:43 Sleep and exercise.

Kimberly: 33:45 There’s a part in the book, doctor, where you go into a, a case study use, you know, specific examples. And you talked about a woman who was eating lunch at different times every day. So some days it would be 1130 and there be one. And so we hear so much in our culture about what to eat, and this is the diet that’s gonna help you lose weight. But people don’t really focus on regularity of eating. And this is, you know, in your book, you’re very clear about employing that regularity helps you lose weight, helps to give you energy. It just creates that balance. And it’s so different than what we’re used to hearing.

Listening to your body signals for optimum sleep

Dr. Suhas: 34:24 Well, uh, it’s a very important point that you bring up. It’s not only eating at different times, but even eating different types of food at different times. Mm. So people are in this mood that today, India and tomorrow Mexican, next day Italian. So the, the quality, the quantity, the taste, profiles, additives, anything in the food keep on changing. And that is, uh, uh, uh, a little bit of a strain on the body and the digestive mechanism. Imagine that your body secreting your digestive juices, enzymes, everything at a specific time as you train it. You must have heard the Pablo dogs experiment where the dog was given food at a certain time and it starts salivating. Exactly, yes. So when you prepare yourself between 12, 12 30, I’m going to eat lunch every day, your body is literally allowing the rivers to flow in to receive the food.

35:25 But some days it is at 10 o’clock, some days it is three o’clock. Some days you skip lunch. Some days you just eat a little sandwich on the go. Some days you have a all you can eat banquet. It just throws the wrench in what the body’s able to do. So you are training your body. Sleep is a rhythm, di digestion is a rhythm. Exercise is a rhythm. So you have to train your body. These are the habits that you cultivate. And I believe that the habits that you have and the habits that you don’t have will literally dictate what you can attract or fail to attract in life. And the sooner you cultivate this, and we as parents are good role models for our kids, is that right? So your kids are watching you, Kimberly, what you do, what you eat, how, how you live your life.

36:15 And that’s a much better lesson than anything else that you can do for them because it’s something that you want to make sure that you are learning and watching and and adopting those habits so that they get ingrained. And once you ingrain that habit, then it becomes easy for the water to follow that because you can feel the difference. And I often ask people that, uh, you go to a yoga class and how good do you feel when you come out of a yoga class and they say, oh God, I feel really, really good. I walked all my pos posture is straight and I feel really energized. My mind is clear. And I said, what will it take you for you to go and do the yoga class again? And they say it’s the same experience. I said, if an experience is so good, it’s making you go bad. But when you have something yucky, when you have four drinks in the night and you wake up feeling dull, heavy, sleepy, sluggish, tired, groggy, it should tell you not to do that next time. Is that right? Same junk food. People

Kimberly: 37:18 Do it anyway.

Dr. Suhas: 37:20 So if at all the body’s sending you signal that I don’t like this and you are not paying attention to that, then who can help you?

Kimberly: 37:29 Yeah.

Dr. Suhas: 37:30 So you need to be in tune. And that’s the benefit of being mindful, being self, being a meditative, you don’t have to be a yogi in the cake. You just have to have a little time to listen to your body signals. And I jokingly say in my book also that for a fast acting relief, try slowing down.

Kimberly: 37:50 Mm.

Dr. Suhas: 37:51 It’ll help you connect with what your body’s trying to tell you at a given time.

Kimberly: 37:57 Doctor, I love how you use that term, what you attract in your life. Are we talking about potentiality? And you talked about our, you know, our vidic chart and so we have this potential, but it doesn’t mean it’s, you know, it’s definitely gonna happen, right? We have to, we’re co-creators. So we, we regulate our life, we have self-care, we have our lifestyle, and then it puts us in our power, our energy is, um, able to create our goals and attract more to us. Or can you go into that a little bit? Sounds really well

Freeing yourself from blockages and living up to your potential

Dr. Suhas: 38:27 Fascinating. I understand. I agree with you to the fact that everybody has a potential, but some people have easy journey. Some people have a difficult journey. Yes. Some people have a little bit more obstacles than limitations. They need a little bit more handholding, they need more guidance, they need more structure. They need maybe some more support system to help them get there. Some people just know and get there and do that. Some people are a little bit more easy and that’s also some of the karmic journey that helps you. Yeah. So when we look at someone’s astrological chart, especially as a, as a physician, when I look at a medical astrology, it actually tells me that what are the things that is blocking them from living up to their potential. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, it could be a relationship, it could be finances, it could be their health, it could be where they live.

39:15 It could be some of the anxieties, it could be some of the childhood experiences. And then we work on that to refine them. We help them reprogram their things so that they start clearing those blocks and start getting and living up to their potential. So I think that is an important point. Uh, astrological chart gives us a little roadmap of what is the right thing to do at a given time. And so you tap into certain things, it helps you select the right kind of vocation, the right kind of profession. It also, uh, does a compatibility between your relationship to see whether you really match with each other’s, um, expectations and likes and dislikes, and what are the things that, um, you have some imperfections in each other and how to work with that because it’s, it’s a mindful way of living. It’s not something to to, to block you or to create obstacles in your life, but helps you realize.

40:16 It all starts with awareness. It starts with who you are, what you want, and where you want to go and when you do this and what are you willing to participate. And that’s the question that I ask that how ready you are to be healthy, how ready you are to go and get it what you want in your life. And if they’re willing to learn, if they’re willing to apply, if they’re willing to change, then they manifest it. Mm. And most of the people, most of the patients that I see, I tell them that this is not a medicine where you come and say that my headache is your headache and now give me a pill and I’ll get rid of it. It’s not, we are trying to together, trying to find out how you’re going to create a template from where the headaches are coming.

41:00 What are you going to do by doing what, what changes that you see in the pattern of the disease and what is the most important thing that you need to learn to stick onto things? Because for ATA person, the regularity is the key for a people moderation is the key. They can’t, they can’t get too aggressive and too fussy about everything. They have to slow down and be a little bit more moderately, uh, enjoying life and be a little bit more easy going for ka people. Stimulation is the key. You need to stimulate, you need to energize your life. So based upon your body type, based upon your disease, based upon your lifestyle, what you do is something, uh, so easy. And it allows people to really understand that, what am I doing wrong? And it’s almost a lesson that you are learning for yourself as a self-help to, to embrace and adopt some of the changes and make it a habit. And once you do it, then you don’t need to help them anymore because then they figure it out.

Kimberly: 42:01 Also, I love hearing you speak, doctor, and also just coming from this deep place of example, because there’s a lot of people talking about things and you have so much wisdom to offer. But I have to say on a personal note, there’s two things that really, um, strike me about you besides the wisdom and the knowledge. And number one, because you talk about relationships a lot, and I’ve always admired the relationship you have with your amazing wife who’s also an veic doctor. And I’ve seen you guys a lot at different conferences and workshops and you are so supportive and amazing of each other. A team, you can tell that you have helped each other reach your potential. There’s this peace, there’s this power, there’s this respect. And you can see, and you talk about this, everything impacts your nu your nutrition, your life, including your relationships. And you are walking that walk. Doctor, you have such a beautiful marriage and it’s one that I’ve always looked up to.

Dr. Suhas: 42:53 Well, thank you. Thank you. And I think, uh, Dr. Manisha is, is a wonderful noble soul. And she, the best thing that has happened to me. Aww.

Kimberly: 43:02 <laugh> inspired,

Dr. Suhas: 43:03 I love her. We have inspired each other to be on this journey. You will not believe we have lived and worked in 39 different countries around the globe. What literally, we have literally lived outta suitcases, traveling, teaching avea yoga, meditation. I used to work with, uh, his holiness ma yogi popularizing transcendental meditation. And uh, that’s how I met Deepak in the earlier days, uh, before he wrote perfect health. Wow. It’s, uh, it’s a journey that we have undertaken. We have raised our kids during all these global journey. And my son has become an AVIC doctor. He practices with us. My daughter Sonika, she’s a naturopath, she’s a naturopathic physician. So somehow they have seen us do this. And we have cultivated these beautiful relationship within our families and with hundreds and thousands of our patients and clients and colleagues like yourself, that we feel inspired that when what you’re doing is exactly the way you are living, it becomes a thema. Yeah. It becomes a thema. You are in your thema, so you don’t have to do something different. It’s something that effortless. It’s

Kimberly: 44:17 Naturally,

Dr. Suhas: 44:17 This is how you eat, this is how you eat, this is how you live, this is how you sleep, this is how you exercise, this is how you cultivate, this is how you manifest things. Then it happens. Yeah. Once you, once you find that flow, everything flows properly.

Kimberly: 44:34 <laugh>, I love it. And I, I had Dr. Manisha on the podcast as well, and she’s also an author and she has a beautiful way of talking about inner beauty, outer beauty that I very much resonate with as well. You

Dr. Suhas: 44:46 Have, you have endorsed that book, the Enchanting Beauty, the Yes Secrets for Inner Router and, uh, sustained Beauty.

Kimberly: 44:55 Yes. And we will link to that in the show notes as well, which leads me to my next one, doctor, which is a little bit more superficial, but I was just, um, part of the Well and tr we did a podcast with Well and Good for the big Wellness Trends report for 2023. And one of them was that hair loss is increasing at record breaking amounts in the United States, like, like 20 million women alone are experiencing, um, unprecedented hair loss. And so again, back to rhythm, back to the wisdom of your book. And then I look at you, doctor, and you know, you may be listening to this on audio, we put, um, the video clips up as well, but Dr. Suhas has completely black, thick hair and eyebrows. He does not have one spot of gray. His hair is completely healthy. So <laugh>, so obviously you are walking the walk, doctor and tell us about that because we know dehydration, stress, lack of B vitamins, all this contributes to hair loss. Uh, uh, you know, an un uh, uh, unnatural schedule.

Dr. Suhas: 45:57 Well, there are two things which I understand because hair, uh, and hair, okay, they’re related with bones. And from an <inaudible> perspective, nails and bones are the byproduct of, uh, nails and hair are the byproduct bones. So anything that is helping you to build bones is going to help you strengthen your nails and air is the same thing. So foods that are going to help you make your bones stronger, whether you talk about seismic seeds, whether you talk about broccoli, whether you talk about, uh, pumpkin seeds, whether you talk about nuts, seeds, good quality protein, plant-based proteins, even soaped sprout at garbanzo beans, lentils, kidney beans, things like that. We eat a lot of that in our diet as a plant-based protein. So we cook them properly and have that as a good rich source of plant-based protein. So that’s number one. Second head is the place for heat, pitta and heat flow.

47:03 So you need to learn to cool it down. Okay? And the best way to cool down the heat in the head is massaging your soles with castor oil, soles of heat with castor oil. Ah, ah, so you people think that we have to put something on the skull, but you massage the soles of your feet and you will see there’s a lot of heat from your head will be reduced and you will have, uh, darkening of the hair. You will have more thickness of the hair and the thinning and the falling of the hair goes down because we often see the people, they’re prematurely gray and they’re prematurely balded many of the strong Pitta body type, they start losing hair in their thirties. Okay? Yeah. They become bald in their thirties itself because there’s so much of heat that the body is trying to evaporate. And then there are some specific algorithmic curve that we consume ourself. We actually have a supplement, which we can’t enough put enough on our shelf called this Vital Hair.

Kimberly: 48:00 Ah,

Dr. Suhas: 48:00 Vital Hair is a unique supplement of mania formulator. It’s a combination of am bring mank, all of these ke herbs, which are good for hair itself. Okay? Uh, marker. And so all of these herbs are really, really good when you internally take them, they actually cool down the Pitta and they regulate the agony of asti, which helps for the hair growth. So vital hair is the one which I recommend, and we actually have a very specific cooling hair oil. I don’t recommend putting, uh, a scalp treatment on a daily basis, but at least once or twice a week, you should gently massage your scalp with this vital hair oil with amla, bring garage, all of these algorithmic hers together, and you gently massage with that warm oil, wrap your head with, uh, with a bandana or something. And next day wash it off with a mild shampoo. And there’s an AIC called Akk, which is, um, considered to be an excellent hair wash. And there are some nice mild auric shampoos that are available that you can use. So doing a warm oil treatment for the scalp twice a week, washing with the mild shampoo and taking ingesting herbs and massaging the source of the feet and vital hair one twice a day. Wow. Enough protein means you can talk about silica and collagen and biotin and things like that, but if you’re eating the clean plant-based diet to get almost everything from that

Kimberly: 49:27 Yes, with the castor oil doctor, do you wash your feet after you massage it in,

Dr. Suhas: 49:32 It actually gets absorbed. The moisture you have. You just, and I’m not talking about several tables, we, I’m not talking about half a tea. You just massage it and it just gets absorbed. There are so much of hot Meridan points on the feet. We call it it as bottom. It just literally absorbs them. It just moisturizes. It just glistens, but it doesn’t stay in your sheets or anything

Kimberly: 49:53 When you, so you do it at night,

Dr. Suhas: 49:55 You do it at night.

Kimberly: 49:56 You know what, I could talk to you all day. I throw one question and just the knowledge, the wisdom is this enormous cavern, overfilling, overflowing. I am so appreciative of you. I absolutely love this book and I can’t recommend it enough to everyone. Once again, it’s called Change Your Schedule, Change Your Life. We will obviously be linking to it in the show notes. You’ll be seeing me talking about it on social as well. It is so, um, accessible as well. The way you lay it out, the way you write it, doctor, it’s like, oh, I can do this. I can apply this to my life. So it’s not complex, it’s not overly heady. It’s really, uh, practical, which is what we need today to really better our lives. So thank you so much, doctor, for taking the time out of your busy schedule to talk with us.

Dr. Suhas: 50:45 Thank you, Kimberly. Keep up the good work and uh, so happy to be with you and, uh, more, more success for all your work, all your endeavors and be the delight, be the light.

Kimberly: 50:58 Thank you so much. Namaste.

I hope you enjoyed our interview today with a wonderful and highly knowledgeable Dr. Suhas. We will link directly in the show notes to his new book, as well as other information on him and his teachings and his programs and other shows that I think you would enjoy. Other podcasts, recipes, practical enlightenment, meditations, articles. We have a lot over there for you on the website if you’re not aware. We also started, or I started blogging. Again, very freeform raw sharing thoughts known as Kim’s Corner. Kimberly’s Corner. So check out those blog posts as well, which I think you will enjoy. I’ll be back here Thursday for our next q and a show. So till then, take great care and sending you so much love and so much gratitude for our special connection. Much love.