How to Bring Joy and Wonder into Your Kid’s Life with Mallika Chopra [Episode #705]
This week’s topic is: How to Bring Joy and Wonder into Your Kid’s Life with Mallika Chopra
I am so excited to have my very special guest, Mallika Chopra, who is CEO of the popular Chopra meditation app and author of the new children’s book, Buddha and the Rose. Listen in as Mallika shares simple Buddha practices that parents and kids can apply in their life, how the relationship shifts between mom and her kids, work and creative endeavors, and so much more!
How Mallika’s book integrates both the individual and collective as a whole…
Simple practices from The Buddha and the Rose that parents can apply in their life…
How to transition through the relationship shifts between mom and her kids…
Empty nest, work and creative endeavors…
Serving in a more authentic way…
Bringing this knowledge of the Buddha to younger kids…
About Mallika Chopra
Mallika Chopra is a mom, media entrepreneur, author, and public speaker. She is the author of the Just Be series, which includes her upcoming book, Buddha and the Rose. Mallika has taught meditation to thousands of people and is currently a mindfulness consultant for the animated series, Stillwater, on Apple TV+, which recently premiered its second season. She enjoys speaking to audiences around the world about intention, balance, and living a life of purpose.
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Kimberly: 00:01 Hi loves and welcome back to our Monday interview podcast, where we have a very special interview for you today with the wonderful Mallika Chopra. She is a repeat guest. She is a personal friend, sister to me. She is the CEO of the popular Chopra meditation app, and she is the author of many books, including her new children’s book, Buddha and the rose. So I can’t say enough about Monica, how much I love her. She’s a powerful woman. She has a very interesting, um, background. Her father is Deepak Chopra. She’s an entrepreneur, she’s a public speaker. She’s just a wonderful, wonderful human. And I have loved many of her books, including this latest book, which I have been reading to my boys over and over again. It is beautiful and it is about making accessible for children. This teaching of the Buddha, where he came this silent teaching with a rose, which is so powerful.
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Interview with Mallika Chopra
Kimberly: 02:10 Thank you so much for coming back with me. Friend, sister collaborator met many things. We’ve known each other for years now. It’s great to have time to have this conversation in the middle of busy life. So thank you so much.
Mallika: 02:39 Oh, I’m always so thrilled when we connect. Whether it’s like this or just on our coffees and catch ups. Um, you are a sister truly.
Kimberly: 02:50 Oh yes. Love. Well, here we are. We were just talk chatting a little bit before we started recording. How crazy life has been there’s you know, your kids are kind of going in different directions. One’s in college. Now you said,
Mallika: 03:03 So Kimberly, you won’t believe this one is finished her sophomore year of college and like going into junior, which is like a whole nother, like really thinky about your life. And then my baby, like my little baby turned 18 yesterday, Lela. Oh my God. So she is officially an adult too. And I’m like, oh my God, how did this happen? New phase?
Kimberly: 03:28 Well, I feel like I’m getting goose goosebumps. And one of the, the, you know, the ways I’ve felt so connected to you, we are both coauthors. We love to write and I’ve read so many of your books. How many books do you have now? Molly. God
Mallika: 03:42 <laugh> I know. Maybe even I lose track. So I think I’m coming out with my seventh, eighth book, eighth book. Wow. Yeah. Wow.
Kimberly: 03:53 So I remember reading intent, which was, you know, for us adults and really thinking about creating the life we want. And then a book that I talk about all the time and I recommend all the time is a hundred promises to my baby, which I read when I was pregnant with my first son. And it was so beautiful. And it was just, you know, just thinking about those really tender first years. And now this new book that you have, which will get into a moment, the Buddha and the rose, which I love. And I read to both of my sons over the past few days is taking this really like adult story that I read about in adult context, one of the sermons of Buddha and really making it accessible for children. So it’s really interesting seeing the arc of all your books. And so tell me a little bit about the inspiration for, oh, I’m gonna write about this now cuz I have my own process and I love to hear other writers, you know, other authors really, um, share.
Mallika shares the inspiration for writing and her process
Mallika: 04:46 About that. Yeah, no. So thank you for asking, you know, I think if I look at the arc of all of my books, there really are reflection of what I’m going through at that time in my life. And so, um, you know, when I did a hundred promises to my baby and a hundred questions for my child, it was really that like becoming a mom and who are what my intentions as a mother and thinking about my story and the story that we were gonna create together. And that was such a magical time in life. Then I wrote living with intent, which was like the chaos, the craziness, the busyness of running around as a busy mom, as an entrepreneur, as you know, just to forget about taking care of ourselves, like <laugh> taking care of everyone else. And just a reminder that we need to do that.
And then it was like, my kids were at a, an age, um, an older age, eight to 12 year old, like that range when I wrote just be, um, they just be serious. So that’s just breathe. Just feel just for you, which are practical, like tools for kids, like just short exercises, things in schools and the last two books. Um, so I did my body as a rainbow and then now, well then the role is, is like I came back to like, okay, coming back to like those early, those early ages when we really you’re. And you’re in that phase, which I’ve just yearning where you put your baby in your lap and you’re reading yeah. Um, a book together and how do you connect that way? Um, and so Buddha and the rose, you know, is this classic story that my dad used to tell us all the time.
And I always just loved the story of like, you know, how a rose represents so much, but it was a silent, it was a silent talk. So I wanted to do something, but then I was like, Ugh, you know, we need women in these stories. So like we need girls. And so I adapted it, um, because in the traditional story and again, this is all, um, who knows what history was, but um, in the traditional story, it was, um, Buddha with one of his students and everyone was sitting silent and his student, um, understood the message that Buddha was saying by just holding the rose. But in this I brought in Sujata who is a little girl, she was the milk made who brought, um, originally the, um, milk that, uh, Buddha broke his fast, but I thought let’s bring in the children, let’s bring in the girls. And so I think with any children’s book, it’s about the art. And so I, I was like, I want a young Indian woman to illustrate this. So I asked that’s, you know, that was my mandate was that’s really important to me. Um, so the goal here is to bring in more women, uh, into this tradition as well.
Kimberly: 07:41 Wow. The book is so profound. Um, I mean, I just, it it’s, it’s like this moment expanded and the fact that you could really explain that in a way or, or make it accessible to, to children. So it was, I watched my son’s eyes. I remember I had both of them the first time in one in each arm, <laugh> one is six. Now one is two. So they’re still in that arc where they can read some of the same books. And it was this moment where you illustrate this rose and then just seeing this profound connection in the stillness without having to talk a lot, this being this so much is formless so much, is this, you know, children feel it, but then they don’t have the language. And then as adults, we put too much language on top. So it’s like finding that way of expressing is really eloquent. And you take us on this journey and the illustrator is taking us into this moment expanded. It’s so beautiful.
Mallika: 08:40 Oh, thank you. Well, and I think again, because of your work, you’re so connected, um, to consciousness and I love your last book, which we’ve talked about, but I think that you and I are both moms and we’re always looking for ways to, um, you know, to teach, but to connect like in a really authentic way with our children. And I did feel like this story it’s like about joy and wonder, and I feel living in a world where it like, things are so heavy. Like I wanted something that would just make feel like almost like this aha moment. And I do think that, um, the illustrator kind of, she did such a lovely job of giving space, um, and you know, space, but then also the joy that kind of comes, uh, through this moment. And just again for the, for those that don’t know, you know, this was called the silent lecture where Buddha, you know, had a crowd of people, um, and he just held a rose and he didn’t say anything.
And everybody was like, what is he talking about? Like, what is he doing? And there was confusion and everyone thought, you know, they just couldn’t understand. Um, and then one of his students, um, you know, my dad used to say it was Anand, but I think it was Maha. Um, but one of his students suddenly had this insight is that this rose represents everything. It represents, you know, the, the seed that was carried by a bird that was in the ground that required the sun and the universe and time and rain. Um, and then it became this beautiful flower flower that has the sense. And the beauty that, you know, is there at weddings and you know, is there for the honey for the bees. And so in this moment, um, this enlightened, um, awareness comes and this connection to spirit the universe to other people. And so that’s the story, but I think, um, bringing it to children hopefully gives them this sense of connection. So
Kimberly: 10:45 What I really loved about it too, is this, it’s this journey where it’s fun for children to see she’s sort of like flying around in her seat in her consciousness, but then there’s a line where you write about you are like, she realized she was a unique part. So it’s like, we wanna teach our kids, right. We are the individual, but the collective we’re individual, but we’re part of this wholeness. And so I think that was such a profound part of the book. And it almost made me tear up to see like this milk made. She was this profound integrate, unique part of everything and that it’s all connected.
How Mallika’s book integrates both the individual and collective as a whole
Mallika: 11:23 Yeah, no, I thank you. And I think the goal here is like, for all of us parents who are trying to be intentional, we’re finding, trying to find different ways that we can do that. So, you know, whether it’s through our meditation practice, through, um, you know, guided programs and Kimberly, we’re gonna have you on the Tora app and we’re so excited. And, and I think you are talking about the environment and you know, that connection again, which is something, um, you articulate so well all the time. Um, and so, you know, this book is just another kind of tool in the toolkit that hopefully, um, parents, we have, uh, teachers, librarians, you know, I love now, you know, I’ve got, it’s so great to just get, um, images of kids in classrooms or sitting in their parents’ lap, reading these books. Like, I, I hope that they help, uh, us kind of feel that connection and open up ideas, but more importantly experiences. Um, yeah, cause that’s what our kids will remember is those experiences, uh, as well.
Kimberly: 12:31 Yeah, the, the magic, like how a book at bedtime can really transport you. And one thing Monica is, is you’re speaking this, you know, you and I have talked about the world and how there’s so much comparison. You know, you are the mother to two daughters and it can be a confusing time, especially for women like this, that, oh, I could, you know, I should be doing this. I should be doing more. And I love, and we’ve spoken about this and also have you written about it in your books, what it means to be powerful and to be embodied and to have intention. And you’ve also shared about your mother who was so unapologetically this powerful, I am mother, and this is what I am, and she wasn’t trying to be anything else. And then you are this, you know, creator in the world. And then I’ve had, you know, the honor speaking at your daughter’s schools. And I mean, it’s just this, um, there’s this complexity, but also what I love about your message is this, um, emphasis again on, we could be unique and contribute in our own way. And we don’t have to always like compare ourselves or be like other people. And this it’s always like better worse, this that, you know, in the world.
Mallika: 13:40 Well, and I love again, what you’re bringing up also is just the authenticity of being who we are. So, and I’ve learned that from, um, my mom, uh, you know, who is kind of just the ultimate mother presence and spirit. And I feel so grateful that, you know, she has obviously guided me, but my mom’s like a mom to like my, an entire community, like our extended family, the whole Chopra community. She’s really been such an example. So, you know, for me, I’m so lucky to have her as a role model, but I think what that’s allowed me to do is find my unique voice to never also apologize for the divine feminine and the power of feminine. And actually even with this book, which is why I was like, I’m gonna bring is maybe historically not completely accurate, but like all of this who knows what’s historically accurate, I wanna bring a young girl into this story. Like we need more women, um, yes. In these, you know, stories and you know, who haven’t been, um, showcased before. So, you know, this story has this little sweet girl Sujata and you, you know, let’s bring her into the story as well.
Kimberly: 14:54 Have you always felt connected to Buddha and these various stories in particular? I know.
Mallika: 15:00 Yeah. So I was actually this morning, you know, I had picked up again, um, the classic book by taking to UMT on old pathway clouds. Um, you know, which is just full of kind of these, you know, sweet stories about Budha. Um, so yes, I mean, I think for me, we’ve always been connected to, um, great teachers. It’s my dad reads obsessively. So as kids, so, you know, we were exposed to that and mythology. So just generally, um, all worlds of mythology. And then of course, um, you know, the Hindu, uh, archetypes, uh, you know, whether it be shva or, um, you know, lumen LUME and you know, all of them. And so, you know, the ideas that each of these, um, gods or goddesses represent different archetypes, um, and divine powers. And so that’s kind of been part of my upbringing and it’s such a rich source, honestly, for storytelling. Um, so, you know, even in, you know, when I started with a hundred promises, it was like these great stories come from these traditions.
Kimberly: 16:12 And it’s interesting to see this, you know, the symbols repeated throughout different traditions. So for instance, Paramahansa Yogananda always talks about the rose representing the sweetness of source of the divine. And that’s what the real divine love feels like. It’s gentle, it’s magnetizing, it’s not pushy, it’s not aggressive and it’s this real sweetness. So he, you know, he sings about it or there’s a lot of chance around the rose there’s rose pets used in a lot of the rituals and the ceremonies and the meditations. So it’s interesting how you see it, um, play out across, you know, Buddha’s teachings in different cultures as well.
Mallika: 16:48 Yeah, I know. And I think that’s, again, there are these symbols, which throughout different cultures, um, you know, have had, uh, kind of resonance and it’s so fascinate me, cuz I became, you know, a few years ago I went back to school, um, and did more like studied psychology and things like that and started really getting deep into union psychology. Ah, but you realize like what he was talking about was what, again, they’ve been talking about in the east for thousands of years, he just kind of brought the language to it. So
Kimberly: 17:23 Interesting. Yeah. With the alchemy and all the
Mallika: 17:26 Yeah. And symbolism and archetypes and all of that.
Kimberly: 17:30 Interesting. So what would you say to a parent that gets your book and, and is teaching their child about this, this real presence and this profoundness in the moment and the child reads the book and they read it together and they say they get excited. What else could they do beyond reading or were simple practices that they could live some of, of this in their lives.
Simple practices from The Buddha and the Rose that parents can apply in their life
Mallika: 17:50 So, yeah. And I think, you know, it’s such a good question cause I’ve been thinking about, you know, maybe sharing some other exercises linked to the book. But I think specifically with this book, um, as a parent or a teacher, you could just like with the rose and you think about where did the rose come from and then what is the rose used for? You could do that with anything. So like when you’re sitting down for a meal with your salad, like, look at, look at the food in front of you and say, Hey, where, where did this come from? Like think about like, where was it grown? Who were the farmers? How did that food get to wherever it had to get to, to be flown to LA and then, you know, who transported that to the grocery store and who were the workers there that, you know, put it on the shelves and then you took a car to go there and like who built that car? I mean, it’s like you can take literally any, um, object or almost any experience and work backwards and forwards around it and kind of see the connections that we have. And also like just to eat this one piece of lettuce in my salad, took thousands of thousands of people. It took the sun, it took the time it took, you know, um, it’s amazing. And yet to realize that with literally everything that’s around us, you cannot deny the connection.
Kimberly: 19:17 Yes. And the soil. And so the earth, all the different elements that go in it. And when we rush through the day, we miss a lot of that. So meal times feel like a really practical, our family does a gratitude practice. We go around, we say, we’re grateful for it. Sort of slows everybody down. And then yeah, just to sort of hone in on what is here.
Mallika: 19:36 Yeah. No, I think that’s great. And I think, and then yes, of course the other practices, so gratitude practice. Um, I like, um, setting in intention early in the day. So I tried to even recently with my, my daughters who are much older now, but we’re getting in a very, all of us in this very like negative aspect of like the world and politics and the environment. Yeah. And so I said, you know, let’s every night just text each other, the thing we’re grateful for. And then in the morning, like our intent for the day, the two together got a little bit much for my girls, but now we’re just doing the gratitude. But I also like that idea of the intention for the day to just anchor yourself yes. Sort of feeling, um, or experience for the day.
Kimberly: 20:21 I love that. And also sharing it with loved ones. It’s almost like that, that statement bringing it forward.
Mallika: 20:28 Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, with kids, I think, um, and at every age there are different practices. I I’m a big believer obviously in meditation, but I think for kids, especially your age, maybe it’s just going for a mindful walk together, trying to notice something new that you didn’t see on like the same walk. Um, you know, I used to do this even like going up the stairs in your house, like, is there something new you can see or going for like 10 quiet steps and being aware of your body? I mean, there’s so many things we can do with our children, um, that can help them slow down. I’ll slow down. Um, just feel more connected. And I think that’s the beauty of, you know, when you described, like, I’m almost jealous, like your two babies, like in your two arms and holding a book cuz you don’t do that later on. So savor it. Um, but again, they’re gonna remember that experience. Um, just the feeling of the safety and the security. Um, as much as, if not more than any story that you read them,
Kimberly: 21:32 Have you felt this big lesson, Monica in letting go in time, watching your daughters grow? How have you, how is that? You know, because you’re a little bit ahead of me in the parenting game and I think, wow, like even my six year old, it doesn’t, it doesn’t feel like some people say it goes fast, but there’s been so much in my life and you know, so much has happened since he was born and with him and I meditate as well. There are moments expanded, but how is it when your kids don’t need you as much physically? How is it when they go off to college?
How to transition through the relationship shifts between mom and her kids
Mallika: 22:06 So it’s such an amazing experience because it’s like when my daughter left for college, my older daughter, like it hurts me so much, like missing her, like it literally physically hurt cuz she’s on the other side of the country. Um, and but then you see like how, um, excited they are for this next phase of their life. You realize my God they’re okay. Like they are, it’s like this butterfly that’s going out and flying out into the world. Um, and so then you’re like, oh my God, you’re so happy for them and excited for them. And um, you know, it’s actually kind of a very liberating and thrilling experience like an so fulfilling. It doesn’t mean you don’t miss them as much. And now with my baby who turned 18 yesterday, I mean, she’s like, you know, her first thing is like, I’m gonna go get a tattoo cuz I can.
But again, it’s like, she’s got it. Like I know she’s, she’s great. She’s going to be fine. And your relationship with them shifts to like, um, really, um, deep friendship, of course you’re always your, the mother, but like, you know, they are their own people with their own ideas and they push back and they push back with such, it’s not the like teenage or like five year old pushing back. It’s like they really know things about this world and you’re constantly, I’m constantly learning from them. Yeah. Uh, so it’s quite an amazing and beautiful experience. I, I talk to me when Lila goes to college and we’re empty nesters. I don’t know how I’m gonna deal with that. But right now, um, I have Tara home from college and Lila at home and it’s just wonderful.
Kimberly: 23:56 And there’s been this real self discovery or, or journey within yourself as a woman, cuz we’ve talked about there’s stages in your career where you were, you know, even shared when you first met your husband or you guys were working on MTV profile
Mallika: 24:10 With all these
Kimberly: 24:11 And you were out and then you became a mother and then there was this ebb and flow. And so now there’s more time and space for you to work on your creative endeavors.
Empty nest, work and creative endeavors
Mallika: 24:21 There are, if it hadn’t been for getting involved in Chopra global and my dad’s company, <laugh> so well, that’s
Kimberly: 24:29 A big creative endeavor.
Mallika: 24:31 It’s a big creative endeavor, but it’s also an endeavor, which I think many of us go through. I know you’ve lost your mom, uh, relatively recently. And it’s um, also realizing we also need to take care of our parents. You know, that is something I’m also, um, you know, my parents are very, uh, healthy and great, but it’s also time to help them. Um, you know, they’ve helped us with so much, you know, in our lives to get here. And so I’m also feeling, um, much more responsibility right now, um, in terms of my parents. And so I have to remind myself that I still have to take care of myself too.
Kimberly: 25:13 Do you feel now at this stage, like your, your, your girls are like coming into this, this womanhood, do you feel, um, I don’t feel proud is the right word, but just like as a woman, the wisdom, like you’ve done it, you’re doing it VO. You’ve been through these stages. It must feel
Mallika: 25:29 No, it’s great. I think you and I, you and I talked about this when we met, um, in person last time and I think you’re actually in a similar place, even though, um, the kids are younger, which is, I think we are both at a stage where we don’t need to prove anything anymore, more so you can really just serve in a more authentic way. And that is a different feeling than I’ve felt in the past.
Kimberly: 25:57 I, you know, and you and I have talked about this and where my new book came from was this, um, just layers and layers. After I went through that breakup and my mom passed away and you, it drove me, it drove me into myself into this place of why are we here? What do we wanna share in our time and what really matters <laugh> and what doesn’t matter is all the noise, improving things and trying to get, you know, this and that and the attention. And so it, there really is a shift and there’s a freedom and there’s a, there’s a power different kind of fulfillment that you can give more authentically. I think you can just give more love.
Serving in a more authentic way
Mallika: 26:36 Yeah, no, it’s a, it’s a good place to be. So I don’t know what comes next, to be honest, like it’s a, but it’s, it’s a, that also feels okay. Whereas I think before that used to create fear for me, with my daughters being in such a good place and actually older now, like it’s almost like I can like go of that and it does open up infinite possibilities. We’ll see where they lead. But, um, yeah, it’s a, it’s, it’s a good place to be.
Kimberly: 27:08 How has your spiritual practice evolved through this journey? Do you feel like, oh, you have more time to meditate. Do you feel like you, you know, a deeper perspective of life it’s how
Mallika: 27:20 Has 100%? So one is, as your kids get older, they don’t need you as much, but you know, both drive all over the city and you know, they have their own schedules. Like they don’t have anything. I don’t even stay up for them anymore, which is fascinating at the beginning. I used to track them and wait and it’s like, they, they figured it out. Um, so yeah, it gives a lot more time and freedom, I think for me, um, you know, I’m really like, I love my meditation practice, whereas before it was like, I was trying to fit it in somewhere now it’s like, I can indulge in it, which is a very different, um, experience too. So that’s nice. You know, I have more time to go for walks. Like it’s a lovely, like opening up, but also opening up space, but in a way that like you’re comfortable, like it’s okay to do that now.
Kimberly: 28:12 Yes. And then tying it back to the book. It’s interesting now that your daughters are a bit older, it’s like you have this perspective of giving this gift, the Buddha and the Rose, this teaching to younger children or, you know, it’s, it’s, it’s interesting.
Bringing this knowledge of the Buddha to younger kids
Mallika: 28:28 Yeah, no, it’s great. I mean, that’s the thing, I kind of wrote the just B series while they were in that age and I spent so much time in schools. Um, but I think what I realized is going in in schools is like, there was nothing much for the younger kids. Yes. Um, and so that’s why I did my body as a rainbow and this one, which is really for the younger kids. Um, so yeah, it’s like slowly but surely like selves, like we’ve built this library of books somehow. They just keep adding up <laugh>
Kimberly: 29:01 Well, I can’t wait to see how it all keeps unfolding and what creative genius keeps flowing out of you again, it’s just, it’s fascinating knowing you and then seeing the arc of your books.
Mallika: 29:14 Yeah. Thank you. And likewise, and like, I also wanted to say, cuz I did wanna just, um, we are so thrilled and honored and grateful that you have done this program with us on the Chopra app. Oh, I feel like there’s so many ways we can continually collaborate, but this was a great one.
Kimberly: 29:33 Yes. And so we actually just shot it Mo I don’t know if you, you were aware we did it the other day and it flowed, and it was speaking about walking meditations. There was an, there was a part of it that was about that, that we got to talk about Aveda in the book that, you know, Deepak and I wrote together that talks about the punch Maha BCHA theory. When you really anchor into that, that there is same elements out, out here and inside you really start to feel so, um, anchored and connected and more aware about self-care intuition, how you move through life. And so I really loved, um, link to the app as well. So people can check it out and it’s October the journey to wellbeing for environment, but it’s, I think it’s really a beautiful offering and I’m so grateful to be part of it as well.
Mallika: 30:18 Oh, we’re so glad. And you, and I will meet for our coffee again, <laugh> catch up and I know you’re gonna be out for a while, but I love, I, I do have to say, I love also all of the sharing that you, I see on the, on Instagram these days, because I can see Kimberly, like it’s a new phase for you. Like it’s just one feels it when we met. Um, and like I do think you’re kind of have this like just silent power, which is just amazing. That is coming out, like in everything that you’re doing. So I’m so proud of you. Thank you
Kimberly: 30:52 So much. Thank you so much. And I admire you so much and I connect to your work so much and just having this, this has been, um, next to the bed with the kids. This is such a beautiful book that I can’t recommend enough Buddha and the rose, not just the, um, the writing is beautiful, but also the journey, the experience, my younger son, flower flower, like this page with the rose is like, he’s just entranced and you know, just fascinated. And so thank you so much for giving us parents a beautiful offering to teach through this experience. As you know, we could sit together and read it of really going into the, the profoundness of this moment. I love this book. I will read it over and over again. I will gift it. I, we will link to it, obviously the show notes, but again, MA’s book is the Buddha and the rose. I
Mallika: 31:43 Love it. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much.
Kimberly: 31:47 Great to be with you and can’t wait for our next conversation
Mallika: 31:51 Soon. Yes. Thank you
Kimberly: 03:58 So I hope you enjoyed our interview today. As much as I enjoyed the conversation with Mallika, please be sure to check out our show notes for more information on her, her work, and please do pick up a copy of her new book, Buddha in the rose, which is so beautiful. Whether you have a child yourself or a child in your life. This is a book that will make a wonderful gift. So please, please pick up a copy or more. And we will be back here Thursday for our next Q&A podcast. So take great care. Check out the show notes. See you on social at underscore Kimberly Snyder and sending you so much. Love Namaste.