This week’s topic is: Staying In Your Truth Being Plant-Based
Whether we’re fully, partly or largely plant-based, if we’ve made some sort of shift in our lifestyle, it will bring up challenges in our lives or in our relationships. Something I’ve been through and Katelyn’s been through, so it’s great that we share these experiences and can provide some real, tangible tips and tools on how to navigate these waters.
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Shannon – Menomonee Falls
How do you make meals for someone dead set against eating plant-based, when you yourself are trying to be plant-based? My partner is very much a meat-at-every-meal kind of guy and when I try to make meals that don’t have meat in them he balks at eating. I really don’t want to make two dinners every day.
Abby – Madison
I’ve fought hard for my eating disorder recovery. Now that it’s been several years in recovery, I’m trying to transition to a more plant and whole food based lifestyle. How do I tell people without them thinking I’m just back in a disordered eating pattern?
Carrie – Florida
I’ve started to eat more plant-based foods. Before, it was an occasional veggie or salad here and there. Switching up my meal plan is causing my mom to feel the stress of cooking for “my” needs. How do I stay firm on this path, though still living at home with parents who eat the standard American diet? Any tips for my mom too?
Helena – UK
With the whole virus happening I can’t help but think about how life is too short and why not eat for the enjoyment of it? We place so many restrictions on ourselves when we could be gone tomorrow. I know this isn’t the healthiest way to think and want to stay true to myself and my healthy way of eating. How can I get past these confusing thoughts?
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Kimberly: Hey Beauties. Welcome back to our Thursday, Q&A podcast. We love this show because it comes directly from you. And it’s like a direct conversation in a way, because most of the questions are ones we all have, or they affect us in different ways because we’re all going through this experience, this life together and we’re all so connected. So, I really, really love the show. I love to hear what you’re wondering. And our topic today is Staying In Your Truth Being Plant-Based. And this is a great topic because whether we’re fully plant-based or partly, mostly, largely, whatever it is, if we’ve made some sort of shift in our lifestyle and it has brought up challenges in our lives or in our relationships, something I’ve been through, Katelyn’s been through, so it’s great that we share these experiences and can provide some real, tangible tips and tools on how to navigate these waters.
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Kimberly: So, all that being said, as always, we have our beautiful Katelyn who’s in Virginia. Recently, we were talking about true beauty and just how true beauty increases upon examination. Meaning the more you look into someone who’s truly beautiful, you think, “Wow, that is real beauty.” It’s an energy, it’s heart, it’s everything. And Katelyn is one of the people that I feel is truly beautiful in my life. We’ve been working together Kate, for I don’t know, seven years now?
Kimberly: So, thank you, Kay, for being here with us and for gathering the questions. I know you’re probably blushing over there. Kay does not like being in the spotlight. It’s amazing that I roped you into this show.
Katelyn: No, I am blushing, and Kim knows… I do have a resistance to, I don’t know why, it’s not a fear of being in a spotlight… Kim was even saying to go on the face of Instagram lives, and I’m like, “Me on video, I don’t want people to see me.” And I know that’s silly. Right? Because I have no problem talking, but I do have this fear I struggle with. So, one day, guys, we will do that, but for now… It’s been a hurdle for me to be on the podcast. And you guys, when I met you in person, you’ll be like, “You’re so much better now than you used to be on the podcast.” And I was like, “Yeah, because before I used to literally be like… My underarms would be drenched in sweat, and I’d be so nervous that I would sound unintelligent or nobody would want to hear what I had to say. So, we all go, go through that in our own way, so I do appreciate the warm welcome to the show today.
Kimberly: Yeah. It’s good just to practice letting the light shine on… Like for all of us, a lot of us have a hard time taking compliments. Instead of deflecting it back and being like, “Oh, you’re pretty, too,” or, “You’re great, too.” Just saying, “Thank you,” like taking it in, I think, is a practice, especially as women, we have to learn.
Katelyn: Yeah. Well, something we’ve been doing on the team for, I think, almost a year now is, we have clearings, and at the end, we do an acknowledgement. And every time it’s still uncomfortable for me, but I think it is just a good practice to let somebody acknowledge you without having to feel the rebuttal of, to say something nice about them or acknowledge them maybe in that moment just because you feel like they acknowledged you. So, I think that’s a great thing to bring up.
Katelyn: This is, I think, in alignment with staying in your truth about being plant-based. It’s definitely been a journey for me over the last five or six years. I used to have more triggers when I was reading through their questions, and then I found that I’ve found ways to have peace around some things. So, I hope today, from hearing from you, the beauties can find some peace in how to be comfortable being plant-based.
Kimberly: Love it. I love it.
Question 1: How do you make meals for someone dead set against eating plant based when you yourself are trying to be plant-based? My partner is very much a meat at every meal kind of guy, and when I try to make meals that don’t have meat in them, he balks at me. Can you give me some advice, as I really don’t want to make two dinners every day?
Katelyn: All right, let’s dig in. I’m excited to hear what you have to say. We have Shannon from Menomonee Falls. “How do you make meals for someone dead set against eating plant based when you yourself are trying to be plant-based? My partner is very much a meat at every meal kind of guy, and when I try to make meals that don’t have meat in them, he balks at me. Can you give me some advice, as I really don’t want to make two dinners every day?”
Kimberly: Shannon, thank you so much for your question. And my heart goes out to you because you’ve evolved, you’ve shifted in your eating, and obviously, when it’s your partner and it’s someone that you love and someone you share a bed with and a kitchen with, it hits very, very close to home and it’s challenging. So, I will say, though, and recently we had my husband on the podcast, which was really fun. And we talked about finding that middle ground because my husband eats meat, too, and we found a way to create boundaries and healthy boundaries and a healthy way of co-living. And one of those things is that we really do respect each other, and he respects that I’m plant-based, he goes to be [inaudible 00:04:09] plant-based for a few months at a time, and sometimes he wants to have sushi and fish and meat or whatever.
Kimberly: I respect where he is, too. I know just from past experience and working with clients and my dad and different family members, that you can’t force someone to be where they’re not. So, there’s actually a lot of peace, and I feel blocked energy gets released when we release that pushing mindset that, “Hey, don’t eat this way or eat this way,” whatever. We just accept where someone is, then there’s a lot that is that’s very, very helpful. Based on your question, though, it sounds like maybe there’s an honest conversation to be had with your partner saying, “I’m plant-based, and I don’t really want to cook meat at every meal. And that doesn’t really feel good to me.” And maybe there is a middle ground where you can make the salad or the pasta, whatever could go with his meat, and then he will have to take on cooking some of his own meat. Like my husband, we’re lucky enough to have a separate little guest house with a kitchen, which is his home office, and if he does cook me, A, I’m not cooking it and, B, he does it over there.
Kimberly: I think healthy boundaries, like talking through it, good communication with your partner, and just saying, “Sometimes I’ll cook you meat, but I don’t want to do it every meal,” or, “Maybe I’ll do a big batch, and you’re just going to have to eat some leftovers.” Just finding that middle ground where you can respect yourself and feel good and he respects you and you respect him. And it’s different for every couple, but it was definitely a conversation that I had with my husband. And at the end of the day, just trying to stay really connected to the heart, to the love, to what you really love about this person, and then finding the details work. Because, ultimately, meals are important, but we’re with someone because we love them not just because of how they eat. So, keeping that in mind and keeping the respect going.
Kimberly: We found a way it really does work for us. I don’t judge him, He doesn’t judge me. Kay, I’m sure, I know your husband eats meat sometimes, so I’d love to hear your perspective, too.
Katelyn: Yes, for sure. He definitely does, and it’s kind of a hybrid of what you were saying. We just have one kitchen in our little apartment, so I’ll be like, “This is my cutting board. Don’t put your meat on these cutting boards or these pans.” He’s really good about it because, typically, always make the meal, and then if he wants meat, he’ll just cook it himself and add it to it. And then, even sometimes he’ll be like, “Oh, I’ll get your tofu<” and he’ll make… He helps me, so I feel like it’s a good mix. And there’ll be times he’ll be like, “Can you throw my chicken in the oven? I’m coming home from work,” and I’ll be like, “Yeah, that’s fine,” every once in a while to help him out.
Katelyn: I feel like we have a good, healthy balance for sure. It’s just, I think, whatever your issues are around it, talking it through, like you said, because they’re not going to know what’s going… Everybody has different levels of what they’re okay with, I think when they’re plant-based, and I just think it’s important for your partner to understand what matters to you. And then, as long as they strive to be supportive, then that’s all you can do. And if they don’t want to be supportive, then I’m a big advocate of say, “Well, then make your own food. Sorry. This is how I want to eat.”
Kimberly: That’s great. And if we ignore our feelings… We have a right. There’s no shame. There’s nothing that says, “Okay, we have to please that person,” because what happens is resentment builds up over time. So, I found in really healthy relationships there are healthy boundaries and healthy respect, and that includes respect for ourselves. And if we really don’t want to make meat every day but we’re doing it to please somebody, then it wears away at the relationship. Whereas, food doesn’t have to be a big divider. If there’s an honest conversation, there’s boundaries, it’s like, “Okay, I’ll do this, but you need to do that,” and then it’s out on the table, i think that’s really healthy. And that could even actually really bring you guys together even more because communication builds closeness.
Katelyn: Yes. Yeah. Food doesn’t even have to be on top of mind, but I feel like you can find a way to make it bring you together. With my husband., he loves the recipes I make, and he would always say what a good cook I am and make me feel really good about what I cook. He used to eat meat at every meal, and now he probably only has it once a day or every other day. I’m okay with whatever he wants to eat, but for me, I felt really good that just from him trying eating this way, that he feels so much better, that that’s enough for me that I’m like, “If you still want to have it…” I’m not going to bark at him about it like maybe I would’ve used to in the past. I was a little bit more rigid when I first became plant-based, and I really wanted everybody to eat exactly how I did it, and that created a lot of tension in my relationship. So, you can find a way, as you’ve mentioned too, Kay, to negate this, and it doesn’t have to be a divider.
Katelyn: All right, guys, we have other podcasts and articles where we’ve talked about this, so if this is something you’re struggling with, check out the show notes. We’ll link to those resources, and you can dive in. You’re not alone. It’s definitely a big thing, adjusting to eating plant-based with other people.
Question 2: I fought hard for my eating disorder recovery. Now that it’s been several years in recovery, I’m trying to transition to a more plant-based, whole food lifestyle. How do I tell people without them thinking I’m just back in disordered eating again?
Katelyn: All right. We have another good one from Abby living in Madison. “I fought hard for my eating disorder recovery. Now that it’s been several years in recovery, I’m trying to transition to a more plant-based, whole food lifestyle. How do I tell people without them thinking I’m just back in disordered eating again?”
Kimberly: So, Abby, sending you a big, huge, loving hug out in Madison. I, too, have recovered from eating disorders, and I know that can be a long, difficult path. So, just acknowledging that and sending you a lot of love for your strength and your ability to really tune into yourself and take care of yourself, that’s amazing, and I’m so happy for you. Now, I think that, here in your question, it sounds like… which we all fall into. We start to get really worried about what people think and all this external input. And I think this is the way that… the energy of recovery from an eating disorder is that we get reconnected to ourselves and to our needs, and we just really have to stay focused on that.
Kimberly: Becoming whole food, plant-based is a lifestyle choice for more nutrients and better digestion and environmental issues and energetic issues. There’s a whole host of things. And if we are really connected to our reasons for being plant based, “I really want to take care of myself. I want to take it to the next level. I want to be really healthy,” and we exude that and that is our authenticity, then we live that, and people will feel that when you are very connected to those reasons, when you tell them. And if anybody questions it, then A, it doesn’t really matter that much what they think because you’re clear, and B, you can just really explain with confidence, “No, this is a lifestyle I’ve chosen for health and energy reasons.” And leave it to that. Don’t worry too much about getting into it or explaining yourself. You don’t have to justify anything. It’s a decision about self care, and I think it’s really as simple as that. And people will feel when you feel really confident about it.
Katelyn: Yeah. I can definitely relate to that, too, with suffering with eating disorders, and then people think you’re always taking it to extreme. I think because a lot of people don’t understand and it’s scary and it’s not the standard American diet, it’s not what they’ve been told their whole lives, and people don’t always adapt to change well. And then, if they’ve seen your struggle in your past, they could just think, “Oh…” Like for me, I’d be like, “Oh, I’m just eating this way to be skinny,” but that’s not actually why I became plant-based, right? I became plant-based to feel better, to help with my moods and to get those nutrients, and to really just feel good and have energy.
Katelyn: And I think like you said, when you just explain to people outright that that’s why, I think if you lead like, “Oh, I’m going to do this just because I think I’m going to get thin,” then they might think things. But I think when you just go in and you say from your heart, as you’ve mentioned so adamantly Kay, people can’t really argue with you. And at the end of the day, if they do, you be like, “Okay, well this is how I feel, and that’s how you feel and that’s okay.” [inaudible 00:00:13:45].
Katelyn: You got to [crosstalk 00:13:46] sometimes.
Kimberly: Exactly. Just leave it and growing in just self-awareness and confidence, and so this is where our cornerstones come in. I think focusing on the spiritual cornerstone, which strengthens our connection with ourself and being really tuned into ourselves. So, breathing, meditation, we start to find that inner strength, and we don’t care as much what people think. So, I also, adding into what I said before, I think that’s also a great thing. I discovered meditation when I was backpacking in Indiana. I was backpacking after I had recovered from my eating disorders. And that inner connection really helped me heal even more. And it’s still a journey. Still, Kay, and I’m talking about this care, just healing, caring so much and wanting everybody to like me.
Kimberly: So, anyways, I think it’s a great thing to focus on our cornerstones and not just about food here. Obviously, this is a food related question, but to think about how we gain that inner confidence and strength and meditation, interconnection is really powerful.
Katelyn: Yes. Yeah, to feel good about how you feel. And something I was recently… I was reading an article online, and they just talk about like, if you don’t want that energy sometimes, like say hater energy, then you don’t always have to put it extra out there. For me, now, I don’t even lead with, “I’m plant-based.” I have no problem. I’m confident, but before, I used to let it define me. So, I think you don’t have to overly exert your beliefs to people, unless you really want to, but if you don’t want that push back, you can dial it back until you’re ready or you feel comfortable and confident to talk about how you feel and what you want to do. So, it’s like we are really in control of the interactions with others. Because people will always judge, so we have to be prepared for that judgment.
Katelyn: All right, guys, we’re going to let Kimberly take a short break, and then she’ll be back to answer the last two questions.
Kimberly: All right, Beauties, we’re back from our short break and we have two questions for you guys on this topic. Staying in your truth being plant-based. So, Kay, I can’t wait to hear from the community. Let’s hear the first one.
Question 3: I’ve started to eat more plant based foods. Before, it was an occasional veggie or salad here and there. Switching up my meal plan is causing my mom to feel the stress of cooking for my needs. How do I stay firm on this path though still living at home with my parents who eat the standard American diet? Any tips for my mom, too?
Katelyn: Yes. So, we have a good one here from Carrie living in sunny Florida. “I’ve started to eat more plant based foods. Before, it was an occasional veggie or salad here and there. Switching up my meal plan is causing my mom to feel the stress of cooking for my needs. How do I stay firm on this path though still living at home with my parents who eat the standard American diet? Any tips for my mom, too?
Kimberly: This is a great question, Carrie. Thank you so much for leaving your question, for being part of our community, sending a huge hug out to sunny Florida. And I think that this is where we can take more responsibility for our selves. Just because you are home and you’re with your parents, you can contribute, you can make it a loving, nurturing occasion. Maybe you teach your mom how to make a couple of dishes or you make a couple of things together or she’s making whatever they are for their standard American diet, but you make a dish, a one pot meal, or whatever. It’s something that you offer to share or not. I think it’s more about the energy that you bring, which is that you are not judging them, and this is just how you want to eat.
Kimberly: And I think that’s where a lot of stress comes from in families, is that families are like, “Oh my God, am I doing something wrong? Is she judging me? And she’s not thinking I’m good enough.” So, if you take that energy away and make meal time with your family about connection, or then maybe help and make some of your own stuff, even if it’s simple, so your mom doesn’t feel like that she physically has to make all this stuff. It can still be like a really beautiful experience. And maybe over time they may want to try some of your food., Just like what happened with my parents. And it can open up and create bridges, not boundaries and walls.
Kimberly: So much of this is about energy and just saying, “Hey, I’m good,” or, “Now [inaudible 00:18:38] really simple quinoa dish. If you want to make this for me, I can stretch it out for a few meals. I just want to sit with you guys and talk.” Just super casual and lighthearted and loving, and I think that’s the best thing for in this case when you’re sharing a space.
Katelyn: Yeah. Parents are hard, too. My parents never really fully came around, and my mom’s kind of a hard ass, where she’d be like, “Make your own food.” But at the end of the day, they do try everything I make, which is nice. And yeah, I mean, from living in how my house was, sometimes you just got to make your own food.
Katelyn: Yeah. Because my mom was very much the type of mom that was like, “If you’re not going to eat what I’m cooking, then you don’t have to eat.” And then, over time, she got a little softer, and she’d be like, “I picked you up some kale.” She’d get stuff for me, but she’s like, “I don’t know how to make this.” And one time me and my dad made little tempeh bites for Thanksgiving and stuff. So, every once in a while you can have those nice moments, but I feel like you can’t expect them to get as excited as you are. Right? It’s just hard.
Kimberly: Yeah. So, just taking some responsibility.
Katelyn: Yeah. I think that’s definitely good. And then, you don’t feel resentment or bad or disappointed because you’re just doing your own thing, and if they take part, they take part. And that could be exciting, and if not, you still have an awesome meal to eat and you actually have more. So, I’m always happy that no one eats the food I make because I have all of it to myself, selfishly.
Kimberly: That’s hilarious.
Katelyn: I’m like, “Don’t even try it. It’s terrible. You’ll hate it.” I’m like, “Ha ha. I have like three days of food.” So, revel in that, guys.
Kimberly: That’s hilarious.
Question 4: With the whole virus happening, I can’t help but think of how life is too short and why not eat for the enjoyment of it? We place so many restrictions on ourselves when we could be gone tomorrow. I know this isn’t the healthiest way to think and want to stay true to myself and my healthy way of eating. How can I get past these confusing thoughts?
Katelyn: We have one more question for you today from Helena. She’s living in the UK. “With the whole virus happening, I can’t help but think of how life is too short and why not eat for the enjoyment of it? We place so many restrictions on ourselves when we could be gone tomorrow. I know this isn’t the healthiest way to think and want to stay true to myself and my healthy way of eating. How can I get past these confusing thoughts?”
Kimberly: Helena, thank you so much for your question, and I hear you. This virus has brought up a lot of questioning for a lot of us and just thinking about life, which I think is really healthy, and I think disruption in this way can have some positive effects. Of course, with compassion, our hearts go out to all the people suffering directly affected health-wise and financially, but there’s this aspect where we are reframing our lives and looking at things. So, I think this is really great that you’re even bringing this up. I agree that life is, it’s important that… To me, life is about growth and growing towards peace and joy, and for me, I look at it as I want to have more sustainment in feeling good.
Kimberly: Yoga really talks about the distinction between happiness and joy happiness. Happiness is fleeting, right? Happiness is like, “Oh look, I got a new shirt today.” And then, in two days, you forget about the new shirt and it goes away and you have to bounce around. Whereas, joy isn’t really dependent on external circumstances. It’s deeper, it’s below the surface. So, for me, my whole perspective of food has really, really shifted, where I used to be much more of a foodie. I used to care a lot about the foods that I loved and restaurants and things for enjoyment. And now, I really have become more connected to my body and actually having more energy and feeling good, and the two are not mutually exclusive. There was a period where I learned to cook, and I was like, “Oh my gosh, this stuff tastes really good.” And you can make a tuna-less tuna salad with sunflower seeds, and I can eat this cashew-based pie that tastes like cheesecake.
Kimberly: And so, there was all these discoveries, and I was really genuinely enjoying the food. And I think that, things like beyond burgers, even though I don’t eat them every day, I think they’re really, really tasty. So, for me, it’s about finding the ways, Helena, where you really want to feel good. Life is, in your words, life is short. I want to feel good. And now, my analogy of happiness and joy, just eating really unhealthy things often leads you feeling sluggish or heavy or whatever, and then it goes away. Versus when you start to shift into eating foods that are giving you energy and making your skin look amazing, and you look in the mirror and you’re happy, and you can run around after your kid, in your job without 20 cups of coffee.
Kimberly: So, I think it’s just reframing what do we want our lives to feel like day in and day out in general in between meals? But that’s not to say that we can’t eat food that’s tasty. I mean, I’m a huge chocolate lover, but I have dark chocolate. I don’t have milk chocolate. There’s little tweaks that I’ve made. And I will also say that it took me two years to get off cheese. It took me a couple of years to get off french fries, and I honestly still eat fried potatoes sometimes. So, it’s about balance and moderation. But for 80% of the time, I strive to eat foods that are about sustained energy and joy, because that actually makes me feel really good, and that’s how I want to live. So, I would just take a step back and think about, this isn’t about restriction but about feeling good, like reframe how you’re looking at what you’re putting on your plate.
Katelyn: Yeah, no, I think that’s beautifully said. Just to reframe our mind, because think we often look at things as restrictions, but for me, I always tell myself, “I could eat whatever I want.” Right? But it’s like I don’t want certain things anymore because of how it makes me feel or what it does to my body. And you can always recreate the foods that maybe you once enjoyed that do have dairy or meat products. Now, there’s more options than ever. That Miyoko’s cheese, it’s mind blowing, if you really have certain cravings.
Katelyn: The other day, I haven’t been to whole foods since I’ve moved, and I’ve been wanting to go in there and I’m like, “No, I’m going to spend a lot of money and just buy a lot of snacks that like…” It’s not necessary. Right? I have my normal food that I just prepare, and that’s my treat. So, I’ve been waiting to go over there and just get a couple of things just to have like as a treat. Right? So, it doesn’t mean we can’t treat ourselves or have really… Some of the-
Kimberly: Treat yourself.
Katelyn: Yeah. It’s also like the recipes you’re making. If you’re feeling restricted, you just don’t have to eat like plain salad with tomatoes on top. The art of plant-based food has evolved so much that there’s so much… I mean, just our offerings alone over on mysolluna.com . There’s thousands of recipes. And I was flipping through Perfectly Imperfect the other week, we had to pull some stuff, and I was like, “Oh, I haven’t made that in a while.” There’s so many recipes in that book I haven’t even made them all, so it was like, “Oh, this looks good.” And I was sending the spinach balls to my girlfriend who has kids, and I said, “Oh, you should try these,” because she’s at home and cooking a lot. And it’s just fun to share recipes and things. Making it fun, like not looking at your life of like, “Oh, this is so…” And if you feel that way, then maybe you need to have some reflection about why you’re doing things. Nobody’s making you eat this way, so it’s a choice.
Thought of the Week
Katelyn: So, there you go, guys. There’s my two cents. As always, before we let Kimberly head back to her busy life, we would just love to hear if you’re thinking anything inspirational to hold us through till next week.
Kimberly: Yeah. So, this is something that I pulled from my own daily experience right now, and I wrote it as a little quote on Instagram. And it is, “Today, I’m going to take it one breath at a time,” which is a really simple concept, but I feel like we hear a lot, especially right now and in the news and the media, “Take it one day at a time.” And a day can feel overwhelming, and a day in quarantine could be a long time or a day with work and family. There’s a lot that happens in a day, but if we can break that down even more and just think about one breathe, “I’m here, I’m okay right now,” it makes things a lot more doable. And I feel like it really helps to reduce anxiety because we’re not trying to take on so much. So, remember, Beauties, just breathe this breath. Breathe deeply into your belly now that you’re okay in this one moment, and we just keep going from there.
Katelyn: Well, thank you so much, Kay. It’s so great to hear that. I think we all need those reminders. And if you guys aren’t following us, be sure to subscribe over on Instagram at @_kimberlysnyder. We have lots of inspiration and tips and resources that are positive and uplifting, so be sure to subscribe to all of our channels, the podcast. And as always, I just like to remind you to please go over to mysolluna.com and submit your questions in the podcast tab. I am reading them all, and that is how we create these shows based on what you’re submitting and asking. So, it’s really important, take a moment, we do hear you, and I can’t wait to read your questions next week.
Kimberly: Love it. Awesome, Kay. Well, thank you so much for being such a strong presence in our community, being our backbone. And beauties, thank you so much for also being a key part of our community and tuning in. Love you. We love to feel your energy. We love to be in this version of our Solluna Circle, which is our feel good podcast. And as Kay mentioned, please check out all the resources. We will be back here Monday for our next interview podcast. Till then, take care and so much love.