This week’s topic is: When Emotions Get the Best of Us
I love this topic, because it was somewhat recently for me in the past few years that I started to really understand how deeply emotions really do affect our well-being, our health and issues like bloating.
There is such a deep connection between all parts of our lives. This is something I wrote about a lot in my last book. It’s really amazing to just keep going, peeling layer after layer into the wellness journey and to ourselves and understanding ourselves.
I am so excited to get into this and to hear what you amazing Beauties and our community have asked about emotions, health, beauty and the wellness connection.
Have you been wondering about this very topic? If you want to know the answer to this question and 3 more sent in by Beauties just like you, listen now to find out!
The other day I snapped at my kids and it had nothing to do with them. I was upset about something else. Do you ever have these moments Kimberly? How do you not beat yourself up after?
Beth – NY
In one of your vlogs you mentioned how our emotions can cause bloating. Can you share some realistic tips on how “notto” let our emotions get the best of us?
Tonya – Michigan
I’m always trying to work on improving myself but then I look at my husband and just get frustrated when I never see him do the same. I don’t like being this person because I’m just contradicting myself. Help!
Krista – CA
The other day I pulled a stunt that I’ve never done before. I flipped someone off in traffic. I feel so ashamed and can’t seem to move on from it. What would you do to overcome this?
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Kimberly: Hey Beauties. Welcome back to our Thursday Q&A podcast, where our topic today is when emotions get the best of us. And I love, love, love this topic, because it was somewhat recently for me in the past few years that I started to really understand how deeply emotions really do affect our well-being, our health, issues like bloating, and there is such a deep connection between all parts of our lives. This is something I wrote about a lot in my last book, so it’s really amazing to just keep going, peeling layer after layer into the wellness journey and to ourselves and understanding ourselves.
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Kimberly: We have our amazing general manager, Katelyn Rush on the line, her new married name.
Katelyn, I am so excited for you. Congratulations on your wedding from a few weeks ago and also changing your name. How does it feel?
Katelyn: Thank you. Yeah, it still kind of feels foreign, you know?
Katelyn: You live your whole life with a certain identity and a certain name, and then I had made that choice to go ahead and change my last name and take my husband’s, so now it’s Rush versus Hughes. And yeah, so just taking a little bit to get adjusted, but I’m excited and, you know, just kind of settling into everything. Talking about emotions getting the best of us, I’m moving and just a couple of days, so I’m trying to stay calm and focused during this time. So I can definitely relate to this topic. It’s timely for me as well. A lot going on emotionally over here for me.
Kimberly: Mm-hmm (affirmative). Mm-hmm (affirmative). There’s a lot going on for me emotionally [inaudible 00:03:12], for all of us.
Kimberly: I’m just now in my third trimester and I want to give Bubby everything, and he’s so much energy. And it’s really tough being pregnant with a toddler and working as much as I do, and I feel frazzled more easily now, especially when the house gets messy. That’s like my big thing. So I bumped up getting a cleaning lady in here more, even just, you know, to help with things like dishes, which honestly pile up when it’s the last thing I want to do when I’m tired and I’d rather play with Bubby, spend quality time with him or get some extra work in.
Kimberly: So yeah, I think that it’s just important to know when we do need extra help and support, and work on that external stuff. But as we’ll get into in the show, the internal processing is really important so it doesn’t accumulate, bioaccumulate in our bodies down on the cellular level and have a deeper effect on us.
Katelyn: And I’m starting to feel, and I don’t know if you are, with daylight savings coming up this weekend, the energetic shift of the energy-
Katelyn: Where December, January, February, often I feel like this cozy inwardness, and it’s really starting to kind of unravel for me energetically that spring is just a few weeks away.
Kimberly: It’s true. So this is the month, we talk about this in our Solluna circle, this is the month of the Spring Equinox, which is a huge transition time for all of us energetically to move from that very inward wintery time where it’s dark and we’re planting seeds, so to speak, for the upcoming year, into this very outward, energetic, extroverted time of spring. And it can feel a little bit jarring sometimes in the transitions. You know, our lymphatic system tends to be a bit more vulnerable as well in between seasons. So it’s really important to take care of our immunity during this time and to get some natural sunlight and to rest and to drink our elixirs and our GGS and to take care of ourselves in a extra loving way.
Katelyn: Mm-hmm (affirmative). Well, the beauties definitely have some questions to pick your brain.
Question 1: The other day I snapped at my kids and it had nothing to do with them. I was upset about something else. Do you ever have these moments, Kimberly? How do you not beat yourself up about it after?
Katelyn: So let’s dive in here, see what tips you have for them today. We have Patty who’s living in Texas. “The other day I snapped at my kids and it had nothing to do with them. I was upset about something else. Do you ever have these moments, Kimberly? How do you not beat yourself up about it after?”
Kimberly: Patty, thank you for your question. I think everybody has these moments.
Kimberly: I snap more at my husband probably, which is unfortunate, or, you know, my best friend who I feel comfortable with. So [inaudible 00:06:29], the great yoga guru talks about this as the concept of what he calls overfamiliarity. And sometimes, we get really comfortable with those in our very immediate circle, and it’s easy to show a side that we might not show the public or, you know, friends on outer circles.
Kimberly: So, you know, Patty, don’t beat yourself up so much, just realize that we’re all human and you just had a really human moment. What I would say is afterwards, if something like this happens, to really own it, even with your kids, I don’t know how old they are, but they definitely understand cleaning it up, owning it, you know, just saying, “Oh, mama is sorry. I just was really tired,” or you know, whatever, “worn down, and this really wasn’t about you. I’m sorry. Everybody has hard days.”
Kimberly: And I think it’s really important to acknowledge that, that that’s human and that’s life and nobody’s perfect. And it does give them that permission to feel their humanness as well, but it also shows that mama takes responsibility for her feelings, and I think that’s really important too. I think if we snap and then children or loved ones feel confused why we snapped at them because they may think, “Oh my God, I didn’t do anything wrong,” that can build up over time. So when those things happen, Patty, just clean it up and acknowledge it and, you know, give a hug and a kiss.
Kimberly: Going forward, I know that those things happen when it’s built up, so I try to communicate better before that point comes. Like for instance, yesterday, my big thing is clutter and cleanliness in the house. I just get really stressed when there’s dishes and a mess, and my husband was really busy and there was, you know, the garbage to take out and then there’s a big box that was filled with garbage next to it, and we’d been using it as like a garbage bin, an additional one for the past day. So I was like, “Oh, can you take out the garbage?” And then he took out the bag and he got on a call and he forgot about the box. And then Bubby of course came in, being the like crazy toddler that he is, and dumped the box out.
Kimberly: So it was easy to put back the solid stuff, but then there were mango peels and pieces of quinoa on the ground and it was just gross, and I kind of did lose it. And I texted him and I was like, “You didn’t take out the garbage right.” So I think, you know, leading up to it, I could have just been more proactive and communicating, “Hey, could you just really help me look out for the garbage before it gets to that point where it’s overflowing so much. We have a bin that our toddler can get to.”
Kimberly: And second of all, Patty, going forward, I think it is important to take that pause, and it’s not always going to happen, but if we could just remind ourselves to breathe, go in the bathroom, take that 10 seconds before we snap or before we react, we are going to feel better about ourselves, we’ll feel more in control. So just trying to really consciously take that pause, and I don’t always do it either, but I try. I really try, and I would say 80% of the time it really helps, and sometimes I still snap like we all do, and then I clean it up.
Kimberly: And then thirdly, I just feel like when I sleep better and when my diet is on point, and I’m making GGS, drinking it, you know, my days off to a good start, when I’m physically… You know, our first cornerstone of Solluna is food, and body is the second one. When I take care of the physical parts as well, then the third cornerstone, which is emotional wellbeing, does function better. So sleep, proper food, and then our fourth cornerstone is spiritual growth. And of course, the more I meditate, especially in the morning, if I really just dial it in, even if it’s brief, I’m less reactive.
Kimberly: So Patty, again, to sum up, please don’t beat yourself up. Clean up the messes, take care of yourself, nurture yourself and take pauses and whenever you can.
Katelyn: Such good reminders. We all need that. I think we have all definitely lashed out at our loved ones. I couldn’t agree with you more about that.
Katelyn: You know, how I am with my husband or my sister or my mom or my best friend is, in a moment, I might show a side that I would never show maybe professionally or just generally in the public because we are able to kind of let our guard down or, as you said, we’re just so comfortable, it just, you know, comes out in, in a way. We all have those times.
Katelyn: So I can agree too, Patty.
Katelyn: You’re not alone there.
Kimberly: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Question 2: In one of your vlogs, you mentioned how our emotions can cause bloating. Can you share some realistic tips on how not to let our emotions get the best of us?
Katelyn: Okay, so this one’s good here from Beth living in New York. “In one of your vlogs, you mentioned how our emotions can cause bloating. Can you share some realistic tips on how not to let our emotions get the best of us?”
Kimberly: Beth, thank you so much for your question. I’m so happy that you’re watching the vlogs, which are generally about five minutes. So you Beauties that haven’t checked them out, you can check them out over at mysolluna.com. We put them out every week around different health and beauty topics. So another great source of info for you guys.
Kimberly: Now, emotions can definitely cause bloating, and I want you guys to think about what bloating really is. It is an energy of blockage, right? So it’s sort of like, in a river, if a bunch of big boulders tumbled down the mountain and clogged the flow of the river, so to speak, right? So it’s an obstruction.
Kimberly: And physically, what happens with food is if a food doesn’t flow in an efficient way through our GI tract, it’s meant to go from our stomach to the top of our small intestine, called our duodenum. It’s meant to go into our intestine and we start to pull nutrition into our bloodstream. If they get stuck in our stomach for longer than it should be in there, it starts to ferment prematurely, it starts to break down or it starts to petrify, and gases start to become be released. And that’s really bloating is that inefficient flow.
Kimberly: So we know that dairy and gluten and certain foods can cause bloating, but back to your question, Beth, about emotions, and again, this, when we talk about the four cornerstones, they’re so interconnected that there is a flow between all the four corners. So if we think about an emotion like guilt, you know, a little bit similarly to what Patty was talking about in the last question, or shame or body shame, saying over to ourselves over and over again, “Hey, I’m so fat, I’m so dumb. Why did I do that? I should be doing more in my day,” we are creating a stuck energy, a blockage, a loop pattern, a circular thought pattern that isn’t flowing through. We’re sticking with an emotion, right?
Kimberly: And it’s the same kind of thing like the rocks that block the river. It creates a stuckness. And that stuckness isn’t just in our minds, it starts to translate physically because energy transfers on all levels. So what happens is our body starts to tighten around that loop, that thought pattern, and it can influence our hormones. We go into fight or flight mode. Our sympathetic nervous system goes into overdrive, and when we are in fight or flight mode, automatically, our digestive system slows down and bloating can occur, and our adrenals get exhausted and stress hormones like cortisol gets secreted, and all sorts of physiological changes happen in our body from our emotions.
Kimberly: So when we understand that, we pay more attention to our emotions just like we pay more attention to food as we go down the wellness journey. And to your question, the second part about how not to let our emotions get the best of us, is to pause and really feel the emotions instead of thinking. Now, what I mean by that is, and this is the letting go technique that I talk about in Recipes for Your Perfectly Imperfect Life, my last book. I didn’t get this for a very long time because I would think through what to do and how to respond and what email I was going to say, and justify why I was right and this person was wrong or they messed up, and that just keeps the energy there.
Kimberly: Thinking is a very small part of our energy. It’s the surface part of our brain, right? And so all the yogis, you know, the [inaudible 00:16:10], modern teachers like [inaudible 00:16:11] talk about this idea of going beyond thought. And the way we let our emotions pass through is we let them be deeply felt, which lasts about, according to Dr. David Hopkins, 10 minutes or less. So we feel that anxiousness or that resentment or the anger or the sadness or whatever it is, and by letting ourselves really feel it, instead of thinking of the justifications or distracting with YouTube or Instagram or alcohol or a cookie or whatever it is, we feel it, and then it’s like pulling out a thorn or ripping off a bandaid. It comes out, it goes through. And then we can more calmly respond versus react and we move forward.
Kimberly: Now, sometimes, you know, in the moment, it’s just like a ten second pause is all you got, and that’s going to be take a breath before you really respond. But then the things that linger, if your friend did something that didn’t feel good or, you know, whatever your partner or something is sitting with you, try to take some time, whether it’s at lunch or in the afternoon or before bed, whatever it is, and really feel into what happened and stop the thoughts. Don’t go to the thoughts, go to the feelings that are arising in your body and let those be felt.
Kimberly: And I have to say from personal experience, since I started doing this practice a couple of years ago, I cry sometimes by myself. It doesn’t always feel so great in the moment, but it does process through and it does help me move forward. And I think it’s one of the most powerful things we can do, to heal on a deeper level and to not let emotions cause physical breakdowns and physical issues in our body.
Katelyn: So many of us too I think are conditioned to kind of stomach what we’re feeling or we resist the emotions and we don’t want to accept it’s happening.
Kimberly: Exactly. It becomes worse.
Katelyn: Yeah, and it does make it worse. I think those are really great tips to bring up because a lot of people don’t even know where to begin with that, or maybe even that they’re doing it. So I think it’s great to bring awareness around that and just ways we can try to work with our emotions as opposed to fighting against them constantly.
Katelyn: Okay, Beauties. So with that, we are going to let Kimberly take a short break and then she’ll be back to answer the last two questions.
Kimberly: All right, Beauties. We are back from our short break and we are here. We’re back talking about emotions, healthy processing of emotions, how to work with emotions so they don’t have a detrimental effect on your body and your beauty and your wellbeing. And actually, when we learn to really process our emotions, and I say this from personal experience because this has been something in my life, I will say in the last three years since my mom passed away, it’s almost three years since she passed, I will say that when we let out our emotions that are stuck in our body, when we process, there is an enormous lift of energy and vitality that we feel, a lightness. Kate, do you notice that in me? Because you’ve known me way more than three years.
Kimberly: [inaudible 00:19:50] put you on the spot, but I really feel a lot lighter day to day since I’ve been letting go of a lot of old feelings, and I just wonder as someone close to me, if you can notice that.
Katelyn: Oh, a hundred percent. I mean, when you look back, we’ve known each other probably close to a decade now-
Katelyn: And from the beginning until now, I can definitely just see professionally and on a friend level of just how things are dealt with and the processes, and even just the way Solluna has evolved, the business itself has kind of shifted with a lot of the things that you’ve learned and come into and that we share with the community. So 100%.
Kimberly: It’s amazing how, you know, we think they’re little things, breathing in a moment, taking 10 minutes here and there, we think they’re little, but they really do add up, Kate, in a powerful way and people really do notice around us, and I think we just attract and people just want to be around us. We attract in just beautiful relationships and energy, and it just changes our whole lives. And it seems so little and oh, we’re doing these little steps, but the little steps really add up.
Katelyn: Mm-hmm (affirmative). Yeah. I mean, everything I’ve read and all the self work I do and believe in, you know, I’m not quoting it right, I don’t even know who was the person that said it, but it’s just basically the logic that it’s the small things that add up to make the difference, right?
Katelyn: It’s not like, oh, you run a marathon one day and then you don’t work out for six months.
Katelyn: Like you’re better off, you know, maybe running a few miles a day to stay consistent. Consistency I guess is the theme for me to keep things going because when you’re in that all or nothing mentality, it definitely creates, you know, just more of a wave in life than trying to keep the dips from not going so low.
Question 3: I’m always trying to work on improving myself, but then I look at my husband and just get frustrated when I never see him doing the same. I don’t like being this person because I’m just contradicting myself. Please help.
Katelyn: Oh yeah, we could just have a whole show about all that, but, but I digress and we will go to Tanya’s question from Michigan. “I’m always trying to work on improving myself, but then I look at my husband and just get frustrated when I never see him doing the same. I don’t like being this person because I’m just contradicting myself. Please help.”
Kimberly: Tanya, thank you so much, Beauty, for writing in. I’m sending a big virtual hug. Again, I know how tough it can be when we start to learn and expand and want to better ourselves, and then we know that the way someone eats or the way someone’s living, we know that they could be doing better, quote unquote, so to speak. And I have gone through this myself with in-laws, where I’ll see that they have different diseases and health conditions, and I just know the way that we live and eat could really benefit them. And when I’ve offered suggestions and they’re not taken, in the past, I’ve taken it really personally and I’ve really sort of distanced myself from them emotionally, and it doesn’t help.
Kimberly: So this is the tough part because those around us, everybody around us is a teacher though as well. So when I started shifting into looking at it that way, I started to say, “Hey, I’m a Yogi and I believe in love, and I’m not acting a loving way.” And part of love is acceptance and understanding that everybody is on their own journey and everybody is doing the best that they can with where they are right now.
Kimberly: So when I started to shift into that, there became what Yogananda talked about, the combination of love and healthy detachment, where I wasn’t attached to what they were doing and their outcomes and what they were eating so much, I was loving to them and I let go of that pushing, and it actually drew us to a peaceful place. And I think, again, coupled with being a positive example.
Kimberly: So you, Tanya, improving yourself, raising your vibration, your consciousness, your physical health, all of that, when someone’s ready, they will come on board. You know, my husband recently asked me to help take him through a GGS cleanse. And in the beginning, I may have wanted to do that because previously [inaudible 00:24:55] he had eaten so much sushi and fish and mercury, ah, but I kept living and he would see it around, and of his own, he came. So, you know, we have to honor the free will in others, and that’s part of true love, and our true beauty is coming from that place of love.
Kimberly: So I would just encourage you, Tanya, don’t beat yourself up. You love your husband, you want the best for him, but try to have that healthy detachment as well. Shift the focus back to yourself and, you know, let’s see where he comes in his journey, but try to just connect with your husband with where he is and, you know, try your best to let things go because the more we push, the more, a lot of times, people resist, and that isn’t going to help either, as you know.
Katelyn: Yeah, it causes a lot of tension.
Katelyn: And this happened to me a lot too, whether it’s changing my diet or whatever. I think for everybody, like whenever we learn something new or there’s a cause or something we get excited about, we want to share it with people, and then when they’re maybe not as excited as we are, it creates a little bit of, for me, maybe disappointment or I was expecting something I didn’t get back, and it creates that roundabout where we just don’t feel good and then we’re like, “Oh, well you don’t get it.” And then I’d be like [crosstalk 00:26:22].
Katelyn: And then it creates separation. So I couldn’t agree with you more that that is definitely a remedy for having a more peaceful life. It does take quite a bit of practice. We are a work in progress.
Kimberly: It does, but I think, Kate, when we get that perspective, for me, when I start to feel a little bit lost or confused, I go back to the yogic writings. That’s always been a huge source of inspiration for me. So I did read something the other day about what I was talking about with love and healthy detachment from Yogananda, which is why probably I’m mentioning him so much on this show. Just so much wisdom that, you know, it’s like a well you can always drink from. And I said, oh, yes, I can get attached to other people’s, like what they’re doing, you know? Like loved ones, like what I think they should be doing. So detachment means we love and we don’t push and we accept people where they are, which I think is a really hard thing for a lot of us. It’s really a hard thing for me, but I’ve been working on it, and I could say, Tanya, it does get easier.
Katelyn: Yeah. And I know it’s even hard just to admit it, right? Like years ago, I don’t know if we would’ve been having this conversation.
Katelyn: I mean, I think for us, you know, Tanya, you’re talking about working on yourself, I think it’s huge just to have the conversation around, “Hey, I struggle with this,” right? And you know it’s happening. And then once you know something is happening, you’re much more able to handle the situation and be equipped with the tools you need to have successful outcomes versus kind of having your head in the clouds. So you’re already halfway there, Tanya, and anybody who’s listening that’s maybe already in that situation, and there’s things you can do to make it easier.
Question 4: The other day I pulled a stunt that I’ve never done before. I flipped someone off in traffic. I feel so ashamed and I can’t seem to move on from it. What would you do to overcome this?
Katelyn: Okay, we have one more for you. Krista, living in lovely California. “The other day I pulled a stunt that I’ve never done before. I flipped someone off in traffic. I feel so ashamed and I can’t seem to move on from it. What would you do to overcome this?”
Kimberly: Krista, sweetheart, I love you. I’m so glad that you wrote this question in. It was a moment. It was a moment in time. It was when you were really frustrated and it has passed, and I would just say that if you sit with it, like we were saying, and just feel whatever you’re feeling around it, whether it’s like the guilt, the shame, just feel it for a couple of minutes and stop playing it over in your head. Just feel it, and then let it go, and realize that, you know, maybe you want to reflect on what happened before that. Have you not been meditating for a while or have you not been sleeping well? Have you not been nourishing yourself, eating healthy food? And just soften into some ideas about how you can better manage stress.
Kimberly: And I just think the fact that you’re writing this and there’s a disconnect here between your true nature, your beautiful loving soul, and some of the external behavior which isn’t you, so it doesn’t match up so it doesn’t feel good, you can just acknowledge that you had a very human moment, like we all do, and say, “You know what? I’m going to try to not do that again,” feel it in your body, and then let it go. Honestly, like there’s nothing you can do to take it back and you’re only going to cause bloating and inflammation and stress in your body with holding onto shame about it. So I honestly think you should just process it, sit with it for like 10 minutes, and then fully let it go.
Kimberly: I mean, the fact that you’re writing this means it’s not who you are, and I know that, and you know that and everybody knows that. So we’re not judging you. I think everybody gets frustrated and a lot builds up. So it’s trying to stick [inaudible 00:30:33] saying earlier, these small daily steps, morning meditation, even for three minutes, making sure we’re getting enough fiber or going to the bathroom enough. When we get clogged, if we don’t poop enough, our minds start to go nuts. I know this, again, from personal experience, from being constipated, our gut health is very essential to our moods, taking SBO probiotics.
Kimberly: So just Krista, maybe just see, okay, what happened, again, before? How can I create small, easy steps to help support myself and to help prevent this from happening? And that’s what I recommend. And you’re amazing, so don’t worry about it. Don’t even think about it for another… You know, process it in your body, feel it, but don’t think about it for another moment. Don’t just beat yourself up because that’s never going to help.
Katelyn: So many times we end up stealing our own joy, right? Because we’re either reliving the past or worried about the future, and as Eckhart Tolle always teaches, [inaudible 00:31:35] just trying to be in that present moment of, well, right now I’m safe, or right now I’m not acting like that, and just admitting it happened. And, you know, it kind of creates a fire in us when something like that happens. Or if somebody wrongs us, then we dwell on it and tell the story over and over again to everybody, keep reliving it. So I couldn’t agree with you more that just really practicing. I think the overarching theme I heard a lot today throughout our conversations is that practice of letting go and learning how to do that in whatever way works for you.
Thought of the Week
Kimberly: Well, speaking of [inaudible 00:32:12], I wanted to close out our show today with a quote from Eckhart Tolle that I heard the other day that resonated with me and I think resonates with our show today on different levels, and it is, “When you are present, you can sense the spirit, the one consciousness in every creature and love it as yourself.” So when we’re present, we feel our emotions. When we’re not present, we distract from our emotions more. We find ways to push them down, to numb, to ignore them, whether again, it’s alcohol, sugar, YouTube, Netflix, whatever it is. So this idea of being really present and feeling and then letting go, but allowing that natural process of feeling to fully let go instead of thinking or distracting allows more presence to come into our life. And just as this quote from Eckhart, it allows us to feel more connected, in tune with others and with ourselves, and we become more responsive and less reactive.
Kimberly: Again, this isn’t about being perfect. There are times where we’re all going to snap sometimes or do things we’re not necessarily proud of, but the presence, the practice of that, I think is a really powerful one when it comes to emotional wellbeing, our third cornerstone, which is our topic today.
Katelyn: Such a beautiful way to round out the show. Thank you, Kimberly, and thank you beauties for listening. As always, I just like to remind you at the end of the show, if you have a question or a theme you’d like us to talk about, we’re always taking questions over on mysolluna.com/askkimberly. Fill out the form, I’ll be reading it, and hopefully we’ll hear your questions and themes on upcoming shows.
Kimberly: Amazing, Kate. Well thank you so much for gathering these questions, for hosting the show with me, and thank you Beauties so much for tuning in. As always, we are in love with you and our community and this really safe, supportive space that we have carved out for ourselves in the world. So we are here for you always. We are listening always. As Kate mentioned, you could ask the questions. I was mentioning earlier about vlog, so if you really resonate with video, we have those as well. And social, and a million other ways to connect with me and with us.
Kimberly: So keep it coming. Stay connected. We love you dearly. We will be back here Monday for our next interview podcast. Until then, take care, and so much love.